This was my thought too... an open window of time to complete something
UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn
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This was my thought too... an open window of time to complete something
Hmm, I don't think that's SOS personally. It's been translated as VID8 and HIB8 by various people and now SOS, to be honest I don't think its morse at all anymore, as the dashes are of variable length and the dots are too indistinct to determine whether its one, two or three dots. Its actually easier to hear without any modification to the audio, you just have to listen to it enough and tune your ear in, preferably until you start going a bit mad and decide to learn Morse code in a weekend.
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There's our Alien chattering. Almost sounds like breathing at one point.
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Listen to the Audio here
So... What do you all think?
The insecty sounds could be a nod towards the Thargoids, or they could be interpreted as dolphin chitters by those with a penchant for aquatic linkery, or the sound hobnob crumbs make when you shake the tin submerged in a bowl of hot linseed oil. IOW, it could be anything you want it to be or nothing at all.
Bitstorm's 20 minute recording is interesting, but the fact that apparently they can happily float in space without expiring, until you show it the inside of a spaceship, from which it tries to escape and if it succeeds, dies in the same environment it came from? Bit unsatisfactory isn't it?
Hmm, sorry, my disbelief is no longer suspended. Its bad enough not knowing if something is happening or not because of bugs, or not even knowing if it is for anything, or does anything at all, or needs to be taken somewhere, or is just a thing that can be sold for a lot of money, without it doing things 'because it does type reasons'. That ain't no puzzle I am prepared to try and solve, any potential for logical deduction is now gone IMHO
Good luck all, Ill be watching with interest, but for me this pantomime is over. Perhaps, the 'solution' is obvious, in the same way that my route to work is obvious, but only because I know the way, and if FD really can't think of a clue without giving it away, they are not thinking hard enough.
Well, regardless of the object it is placed in front of (at least in all the videos I just listened to), the SOS signal is clearly there. Well, to me it seems (just saw previous post after posting this). And yes, agree that it's clear as day if you listen for it now.
Since we know the Morse code of the object changes, we should look into the 3-24kHz frequency to see if the alien chattering changes as well. I'll look into that later, if no one else does.
Cheers!
Since we know the Morse code of the object changes, we should look into the 3-24kHz frequency to see if the alien chattering changes as well. I'll look into that later, if no one else does.
Cheers!
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I think it's as simple as getting more together at once. DB says we are making it too complicated. People think they need to use mixing software to figure it out. When really why would FD want you to work hard OUTSIDE the game? It would be challenge enough to get 8 in one place, or 12, one for every node on it. Just an idea.
But as clearly stated above, you don't even need to use the method I used. It really just points out what's already there, and audible without examining the audio in depth. Just listen to the unedited audio in all the videos.
And when you say people think, I'm clearly the person you are talking about. And no, I didn't think I needed to use it. I was curious about what we were missing considering FD said it was right in front of us. it helped bring to the forefront something that was already there, and audible without software.
Now as to if it is actually an SOS, I leave that up for debate. But my vote is a pretty resounding yes based on the pattern.
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Agree, whatever we do to it, we must do with what we have at our disposal.
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Any one tried sending a message once the UA is targeted?
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How about some weekly TeamSpeak discussion... say a Saturday night late or Sunday afternoon...
What's the server address?
Crazy theory #54357:
Having watched a UA a little while ago 'in the flesh' so to speak, what really got my attention were the blue 'bubbles' that seemed to float out of it.
Just now, when I was entering Supercruise, I saw something that reminded me of that.
So here a comparison shot of the two 'bubble' things, they were just from a couple of screengrabs but the clearest I could find. What do you all think, is there a resemblance?
Having watched a UA a little while ago 'in the flesh' so to speak, what really got my attention were the blue 'bubbles' that seemed to float out of it.
Just now, when I was entering Supercruise, I saw something that reminded me of that.
So here a comparison shot of the two 'bubble' things, they were just from a couple of screengrabs but the clearest I could find. What do you all think, is there a resemblance?
yes it is clearly simpler and almost banal.
When I hear about all of these theories involving mythologies and Hindu or Egyptian or Sumerian gods and other pentagrams and algebraic modeling, it just feels totally going in the wrong direction.
Instead of having a wiki page 10 meters long, we should just go back to a simple list of things we "know" that are simple facts like:
- UA can be found in SSS alone or in convoy.
- UA emits a sound with a meaning we don't forcibly have to understand (if it's alien, with all due respect, there is 99.99% chances it is not of any meaning to humans)
else:
We know it was implemented along with the new ability to form wings, and there are good chances that ED planned for wings to be useful (if not needed) to solve this riddle.
For example if four ships wing up each carrying a UA in their belly... maybe something happen then ... this kind of things.
We need to rationalize rather than let all the funniest magazine-like theories come forward in threads getting so long no-one can read them any longer.
I'm sure some Cmdr here are aware of the main things found, and have the elements in their reach (an ED guy said while closing the other thread that "we" nearly found the solution several time in the previous thread).
So I suggest pulling the head out of the water for a minute and stop camping every black hole within reach of the bubble, and gather the facts we have...
When I hear about all of these theories involving mythologies and Hindu or Egyptian or Sumerian gods and other pentagrams and algebraic modeling, it just feels totally going in the wrong direction.
Instead of having a wiki page 10 meters long, we should just go back to a simple list of things we "know" that are simple facts like:
- UA can be found in SSS alone or in convoy.
- UA emits a sound with a meaning we don't forcibly have to understand (if it's alien, with all due respect, there is 99.99% chances it is not of any meaning to humans)
else:
We know it was implemented along with the new ability to form wings, and there are good chances that ED planned for wings to be useful (if not needed) to solve this riddle.
For example if four ships wing up each carrying a UA in their belly... maybe something happen then ... this kind of things.
We need to rationalize rather than let all the funniest magazine-like theories come forward in threads getting so long no-one can read them any longer.
I'm sure some Cmdr here are aware of the main things found, and have the elements in their reach (an ED guy said while closing the other thread that "we" nearly found the solution several time in the previous thread).
So I suggest pulling the head out of the water for a minute and stop camping every black hole within reach of the bubble, and gather the facts we have...
Use laveradio's TS. Meet in the room called searching for aliens
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Dude no, I am not singling you out. This is three threads long now and lots of people have gotten real in depth with breaking down the sounds. I am just saying I don't think FD would want to make the mystery something that depended on sound engineers to solve. If it was me I'd make it require the community working together, and everything to solve it would be right there in game. Getting a dozen together, seeing as they damage modules and deteriorate outside, would be a challenge. I would also make it where you HAVE to do it in Open Play like the TitanX giveaway.
Agreed. I think we are hearing/seeing/inferring/assuming far too many things that we want to hear/see/etc. There is a more technical term for that but I forget what it is at the moment. ;-)
Sorry to hear you are taking a break, but completely understandable. My disbelief has been pretty close to un-suspended for some time. A large chunk went last night when I dropped into normal space right by the black hole at HR 1158, and was promptly scanned by a System Defence Vessel and told to move along. The rest of it has been slowly eroded over time. Connection dropping when I went into an SSS did not help either.
A few of us were speculating last night wondering if we are simply supposed to sell a certain number of the things, after which a Galnet story will appear telling us what it is all about, or provide the next hint. I think this is what happened with the Soontill Relics - once a certain number were sold a Galnet piece appeared (after being sold at Sol and Achenar, an act specifically referenced in the Galnet - amusingly I only realized last night that it might have been me that sold them in both places based on the date, although I am sure others did as well). This would be completely unsatisfying for so many reasons, but it would seem to be the simplest (and most obvious) approach for both FD and for players holding UAs. AFAIK only a couple have been sold (mistakenly way back at the start, and at Nimoy Station). I am not advocating this, simply pointing it out as a possibility if any of the holders did want to try it and see what, if anything, happens.
Much of my frustration comes from not actually having one of the UAs to try anything with myself, as I would like to explore a few of the "Dark World/Hidden World" possibilities a bit if I did. Even then there is no real clear indication of where one should try to take it to test that, beyond the usual lore and Galnet suspects. Any hints that are there are getting lost in the noise of the out-of-game theories/analysis, the repetition of the same questions/theories again and again on the thread, and the other Galnet/lore stories - that are likely completely unrelated. And I have certainly been the cause of some of that at times, although I have attempted to alter my ways of late ;-)
Ah well, now that I am finally back from exploring, I will likely carry on in the hunt for a while, but like you my patience is wearing thin.
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We've had dozens of "what we know" / "what we've been told" summary posts spread across 3 or 4 threads, and we're still no closer to solving anything.
I'm not saying you/we should't do it. Just that we've gone around in circles so much in this thread, and we've not really gotten anywhere. Some genuinely fresh (& simple) ideas are needed, IMO. And "Think original" is kinda difficult. Maybe we need to give a UA to a toddler and see what they come up with...
Maybe they are Human in origin, hence the Morse code. Why are they round black holes. Maybe something uses them as portals.
I bet CMDR Jameson would know.
I bet CMDR Jameson would know.
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Well, there IS a system called Bifrost in the game, been there recently - nothing special. Did not have an UA on board though.
Ah, welcome to the thread mate. If you do find one out where we met, freefloating, you can take sound recordings as long as you want.
I think they are pretty much the same thing, yes. That means the UA has something to do with Whichspace... well... Yeah. What now?
Interesting. Someone did suggest previously that the UA isn't being destroyed, but rather jumping. It also does have a sound that's rising in pitch - like a drive charging.
It does open up something new to do - follow the UA - but the problem is: if it is jumping how do we follow it?
target it with wake scanner?
Well, the test might already have been done, but charge your frameshift drive within the cloud? At zero speed, just charging the drive while right next to the UA?
Close to what was proposed in the destructive test (jump when it 'explodes'), but try it while the UA is still at high integrity.
On the wiki I can only find that people tried to 'equip' it as a drive.
You can't. Scanner doesn't start up. here Edit: none of the scanners needing a target do. Hatchbreaker either.
It sounds more like a scream to me, not a drive charging up to be honest.
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Yeha, that would worth a video or two. There was talk about this, but I don't remember seeing vids.
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