UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

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cmdrmacarye

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Dommarraa said:
If the T6/7 didnt have a ship image, then it would make perfect sense. No Image ? Go to Default behaviour. However, they do, it seems that only at a station does the behaviour change for a limited number of ships. Not making any sense to me yet.
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If it's only transporters this behavior might be related to:
- the cargo hold space. A big, empty, hold could act like a resonance room that somehow affects UA's scanning lock. or, along the lines of cosmic sex theory, maybe it resembles an UA mother ?
- the fact that they are not combat vessels and thus not interesting
 

rizal72

rizal72
cmdrmacarye said:
If it's only transporters this behavior might be related to:
- the cargo hold space. A big, empty, hold could act like a resonance room that somehow affects UA's scanning lock. or, along the lines of cosmic sex theory, maybe it resembles an UA mother ?
- the fact that they are not combat vessels and thus not interesting
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If a T6/7 meets a free floater UA, it is scanned and drawn just like any other ship in game. That's how I decoded the ship's drawings.
But perhaps a new T6/7 test in front of a free floater is needed again.
 

clavain

clavain
RedWizzard said:
Au contraire, I think DB pretty much confirmed that the UAs are Thargoid related. He was asked for one word on Thargoids and he started talking about the decoding of the ship images:
https://youtu.be/RdP1DmRYco8?t=2139
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I interpret that completely differently - his comment was "well", then he went on to say he did not want to spoil anything (with reference to the Thargoids) and that lots of interesting things were coming, and then, changing the subject, separately said how impressed he was with Mike Juliet Kilo for decoding the UA images. That is a pretty tenuous connection, if a connection at all.

I am sticking with UA != Thargoids myself, for all the reasons previously outlined.
 
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Dommarraa

Dommarraa
Travels in a T6

Free Floater in COL285 SECTOR RI-R B5-2 at 1004m (not yet scanned)
[video=youtube_share;81maw977Plw]https://youtu.be/81maw977Plw[/video]
Free Floater in COL 285 SECTOR RI-R B5-2 at close range
[video=youtube_share;cQagh37RHdw]https://youtu.be/cQagh37RHdw[/video]
Dropped at COL 285 SECTOR RI-R B5-2 A1 (High Metal Content)
[video=youtube_share;POZrqNoEKXM]https://youtu.be/POZrqNoEKXM[/video]
Dropped at Varati A
[video=youtube_share;fScxryts7eM]https://youtu.be/fScxryts7eM[/video]
Dropped at Varati - Bond Hub
[video=youtube_share;3m3ctWy-WXU]https://youtu.be/3m3ctWy-WXU[/video]
 
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clavain

clavain
As imaginative as the bacteriaphage connection to T6/T7 is, I find that just too bizarre and tenuous a connection (but would be happy to be proved wrong, somehow). I suspect it may have something to do with mass of ship, or distance from the station/body, or loadout or even pilot (although Rizal's tests seem to eliminate pilot with his DBX/T7 switch). As Zoltan says it is very curious, so curious it might even be a bug. Anyone tried a T9 yet? I had hoped to get online last night but Real Life(tm) keeps interfering, hopefully I will have some time tonight. As it is I am wasting far too much time at work keeping up with this thread, again.
 

Dommarraa

Dommarraa
Dommarraa said:
Travels in a T6

Free Floater in COL285 SECTOR RI-R B5-2 at 1004m (not yet scanned)
https://youtu.be/81maw977Plw
Free Floater in COL 285 SECTOR RI-R B5-2 at close range
https://youtu.be/cQagh37RHdw
Dropped at COL 285 SECTOR RI-R B5-2 A1 (High Metal Content)
https://youtu.be/POZrqNoEKXM
Dropped at Varati A
https://youtu.be/fScxryts7eM
Dropped at Varati - Bond Hub
https://youtu.be/3m3ctWy-WXU
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Without being able to hear the morse, my guess from the Honk Length is that even Varati A was giving location instead of ship.
Next tests will be short 2 named systems. 1 Inhabited, the other Not
 

rizal72

rizal72
Dommarraa said:
Travels in a T6

Free Floater in COL285 SECTOR RI-R B5-2 at 1004m (not yet scanned)
https://youtu.be/81maw977Plw
Free Floater in COL 285 SECTOR RI-R B5-2 at close range
https://youtu.be/cQagh37RHdw
Dropped at COL 285 SECTOR RI-R B5-2 A1 (High Metal Content)
https://youtu.be/POZrqNoEKXM
Dropped at Varati A
https://youtu.be/fScxryts7eM
Dropped at Varati - Bond Hub
https://youtu.be/3m3ctWy-WXU
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AWESOME thanks!
Out for lunch now, I'll do the dirty decoding after coming back...
 

Popov Le Magnifique

Popov Le Magnifique
Let's imagine it's to do with the ship. All right. Then what? Ok it shows an old behaviour under new conditions, but what would be the point? It learns new things without forgetting its former behaviour. Is it because we didn't correctly find out the meaning of its nav beacon abilities in 1.3? That'd be strange though, 'cause this newly-found old behaviour was discovered by chance.
 
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RedWizzard

RedWizzard
clavain said:
I interpret that completely differently - his comment was "well", then he went on to say he did not want to spoil anything (with reference to the Thargoids) and that lots of interesting things were coming, and then, changing the subject, separately said how impressed he was with Mike Juliet Kilo for decoding the UA images. That is a pretty tenuous connection, if a connection at all.

I am sticking with UA != Thargoids myself, for all the reasons previously outlined.
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If he changed the subject then that was pretty much the only question in the entire Q&A where he did so. I really don't think that's coincidental. It seems obvious that the mention of Thargoids made him think of the UA. That doesn't necessarily mean the UA is Thargoid in origin, but it seems pretty clear that there is a relationship between them in DB's mind.
 

b_laiskiainen

B
What do the T6 and T7 have in common besides the Transporter part in the name?

According to ED Shipyard, Class 3 power distributor and 2 size 5 and size 4 internal compartments.

Anything else?
 

CMDR Sheehy

CMDR Sheehy
b_laiskiainen said:
What do the T6 and T7 have in common besides the Transporter part in the name?

According to ED Shipyard, Class 3 power distributor and 2 size 5 and size 4 internal compartments.

Anything else?
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<translates alien language>
"They're coming at us again supreme commander."
"What's is it this time?"
"A T6 and a T7."
"Oooh. I'm very afraid. I think I'll feint... after lunch. Just make sure number two goes out there to clean the windows afterwards. I don't like having bits of T6 in the grills."
 

rizal72

rizal72
Dommarraa said:
Travels in a T6

Free Floater in COL285 SECTOR RI-R B5-2 at 1004m (not yet scanned)
https://youtu.be/81maw977Plw
Free Floater in COL 285 SECTOR RI-R B5-2 at close range
https://youtu.be/cQagh37RHdw
Dropped at COL 285 SECTOR RI-R B5-2 A1 (High Metal Content)
https://youtu.be/POZrqNoEKXM
Dropped at Varati A
https://youtu.be/fScxryts7eM
Dropped at Varati - Bond Hub
https://youtu.be/3m3ctWy-WXU
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MORSE DECODED - VERY INTERSTING!

In the first video the MORSE in impossible to hear.

But in the other four videos the UA is ALWAYS spelling Planets or Stations NAMES!
So no drawings at all.

What bothers me much is the UA not drawing the ship, when free floating...
 
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PaulR

P
I did a video with an armed asp with a free floater.

[video=youtube_share;UOZH_DyV6o8]https://youtu.be/UOZH_DyV6o8[/video]
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
rizal72 said:
MORSE DECODED - VERY INTERSTING!

In the first video the MORSE in impossible to hear.

But in the other four videos the UA is ALWAYS spelling Planets or Stations NAMES!
So no drawings at all.

What bothers me much is the UA not drawing the ship, when free floating...
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The UA in the first video has not scanned the ship yet (1004m away). It's logical that it does not Morse the ship drawing.

We know from your test yesterday that it can Morse the ship drawing when dropped from a different ship. It would surprise me if the free floaters does not do the same after scanning.
 

rizal72

rizal72
PaulR said:
I did a video with an armed asp with a free floater.

https://youtu.be/UOZH_DyV6o8
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The UA is spelling the drawing of your ship, as Asps usually do.

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Han_Zen said:
The UA in the first video has not scanned the ship yet (1004m away). It's logical that it does not Morse the ship drawing.

We know from your test yesterday that it can Morse the ship drawing when dropped from a different ship. It would surprise me if the free floaters does not do the same after scanning.
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No, the second video is still a free floater not scooped jet, and very close: and the UA is spelling the System name, the closest planet to be precise, A1.
No drawing.
 
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PaulR

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rizal72 said:
The UA is spelling the drawing of your ship, as Asps usually do.

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No, the second video is still a free floater not scooped jet, and very close: and the UA is spelling the System name, the closest planet to be precise, A1.
No drawing.
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Thanks Rizal, it shows that it doesn't respond to com channel and to flashing lights at it.
 

rizal72

rizal72
PaulR said:
Thanks Rizal, it shows that it doesn't respond to com channel and to flashing lights at it.
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It does not respond to what your are typing, yes. But perhaps there is some magic word. I've personally wrote more than 10.000 words to it even in MORSE, and no reply. But, who knows.
 

Cmdr Delmonte[VR]

Cmdr Delmonte[VR]
Opened a ticket, Video link to T7 destruction now on YouTube https://youtu.be/c2E9b0oiBCQ Drop box does not like too much traffic !
I will move all my Vids to YouTube now I have it set up
..
Going back to sulking in may Lavian brandy and eating secret stash of chocolate hob knobs.... Honest Zoltan the door was open !
 
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