UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

[clavain]

Alternative:
Just wing up with someone who has a d-scanner?

If the instancing works (cf. Canonn "Educating Ed" session, a shining example of excellent networking design). Usually more hassle than its worth. Option of last resort IMHO. Probably easier to Parallax with or without a basic scanner.

 

[Bigskill]

Im on my way to Maia as well, with a friend, we have been exploring for dew days now. We decide to help on the search. Watching the FD video the what looks like an alien structore make me think. What if we have to find that place, and trigger it with a UA, like an alien awake moment? My only concern is, are there things bugged? Is something strange already out? Will take really months before to scan every square of the moons around Maia and other systems before to find something, if there is something and if is working properly....

 

[Wabbitsand]

And while barnacles and Temples seems like a good description for the object in the clip, I would say more like a Terra-former and tendrils coming out of the ground. Now in the book lore for ED there is one story about INRA having an abandoned Thargoid base on a planet they where ransacking. It was surrounded by a very very dense asteroid field. However as this was an abandoned Thargoid base it was no longer alive and just huge tendrils spiraling into space from the surface. The one in the clip is definitely alive in some crude form and strangely some of the tendrils have blue and green tips, the same as the sparkles that emanate from the UA's.

 

[Space]

Just witnessed one of the "Rescue" missions in MAIA. A couple of "Rescue" ships in their according paint jobs were circling a cloud of debris that looked like a cutter or clipper.

 

[LordZoltan]

Please tell me we are not using Twitter now on top of nine hundred other ways of tracking UA information and theories? What happened to one place for all the information? Do we have a Facebook site yet? Pinterest?

No - don't worry! Twitter is only used for announcements (eithwr linking to here or our site) and for 'buzz' generation and banter. Plus, it's a good way to link up with FD and other prominent community members. It's been very good to us . But following there is entirely optional.

It's highly unlikely we'll get an FB group I think... Too difficult to prevent extended discussion that belongs here or on the site; and also too many people opt out of FB entirely. It's also yet another sign-up step that prevents people joining quickly, IMHO.

For other groups FB works well, though, I know (not least the ED FB group - hi to all of you there!)

 

[rizal72]

To be fair, I think it's unlikely - but the question is more whether the UA pointing behaviour has changed in 1.5/2.0 - which is a valid question, especially since the Morse behaviour did in 1.4.

Sure, I was just pointing that someone already had that thought back in 1.4 and did it, with no result. That said, someone can do it again now.
I will not for sure

 

[Jmanis]

Just witnessed one of the "Rescue" missions in MAIA. A couple of "Rescue" ships in their according paint jobs were circling a cloud of debris that looked like a cutter or clipper.

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So how do you come across them? They just randomly occur when flying around in atmosphere?

 

[rizal72]

So how do you come across them? They just randomly occur when flying around in atmosphere?

No, it's the usual Salvageable Wreckage Signal in SC

 

[Space]

So how do you come across them? They just randomly occur when flying around in atmosphere?

I found this one by circling around a planet in orbital cruise and then dropping into a "Salvageable Wreckage" signal. However there was no salvage. But the part about the ship exploding from the inside out by itself seems fishy. Does this exact scenario only occur in the UA bubble?

 

[Jmanis]

I found this one by circling around a planet in orbital cruise and then dropping into a "Salvageable Wreckage" signal. However there was no salvage. But the part about the ship exploding from the inside out by itself seems fishy. Does this exact scenario only occur in the UA bubble?

So, I came across one SW where there was a viper, 3x beer, 3 x wine and a black box. Viper (System authority) said something along the lines of "Didn't get here in time, maybe he accidentally hit the self destruct" or something

 

[rizal72]

I found this one by circling around a planet in orbital cruise and then dropping into a "Salvageable Wreckage" signal. However there was no salvage. But the part about the ship exploding from the inside out by itself seems fishy. Does this exact scenario only occur in the UA bubble?

Are you sure you where in OC when you dropped into it? I tend to think you were back in SC before entering it. At least that is what happened to me, I was in SC close to a star.

EDIT: damn mobile!!!!

 

[Space]

So, I came across one SW where there was a viper, 3x beer, 3 x wine and a black box. Viper (System authority) said something along the lines of "Didn't get here in time, maybe he accidentally hit the self destruct" or something

That scanerio is basically about an alcoholic who suicided. Seen one of those too. Thanks frontier.

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Are you sure tou where in OC when you dropped into it? I tend to think you was back in SC before entering it. At least that was happened to me, I was in SC close to a star.

That one was in orbit of a planet. There are orbital signal sources.

 

[rizal72]

That one was in orbit of a planet. There are orbital signal sources.

Interesting! I didn't know that!
+rep

 

[EAGLE 5]

(Caveat: THE TINFOIL IS STRONG WITH THIS ONE)

Ok here is something I found particularly interesting. There is a lot of talk about barnacles and how the UA resembles one plus the new meta-alloys so on... Admittedly I was ignorant as to what exactly a barnacle is past something that grows on the hulls of ships and piers, so in the name of science I read up on them and found a specific statement from Wikipedia interesting.

Barnacles are displaced by limpets and mussels, which compete for space. They also have numerous predators.[2] They employ two strategies to overwhelm their competitors: "swamping" and fast growth. In the swamping strategy, vast numbers of barnacles settle in the same place at once, covering a large patch of substrate, allowing at least some to survive in the balance of probabilities.[2] Fast growth allows the suspension feeders to access higher levels of the water column than their competitors, and to be large enough to resist displacement; species employing this response, such as the aptly named Megabalanus, can reach 7 cm (3 in) in length;[2] other species may grow larger still (Austromegabalanus psittacus).

Competitors may include other barnacles, and disputed evidence indicates balanoid barnacles competitively displaced chthalamoid barnacles. Balanoids gained their advantage over the chthalamoids in the Oligocene, when they evolved tubular skeletons, which provide better anchorage to the substrate, and allow them to grow faster, undercutting, crushing, and smothering the latter group.[16]

Among the most common predators on barnacles are whelks. They are able to grind through the calcareous exoskeletons of barnacles and feed on the softer inside parts. Mussels also prey on barnacle larvae.[17] Another predator on barnacles is the starfish species Pisaster ochraceus.[18][19]

This is very interesting in how you see a lot of the UA's behavior reflected in the "swamping" behavior described in the passage above. The rest while related to barnacle behavior is not 100% interesting (unless the UAs start growing in size... Species 8472 anyone?) but I kept it because it describes what the opponents to barnacles do... AND interestingly enough the main opponent listed is..... a limpet.

HMMM we got those in ED.. not quite the biological type but we do.


Finally I didn't post it here but there is a rock on Mars that is known for its name "Barnacle Bill" the Wikipedia page to it (and all other rocks including the now famous Adirondack) is laid out rather interesting almost like something out of Horizons with the SRV... sorry Sojourner RoVer taking pictures by rocks etc..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnacle_Bill_(Martian_rock)

 

[Gorgonaut]

Knowing full well Maia doesn't have the gear I need, I went anyway.
Turns out, that was a smart choice- 2 smuggling missions worth a total of 3.2 mil- with identical destinations, to boot!
So, now I'm able to afford a better ship, AND a nice scanner.

I'll put my profits to good use- I'm going straight for the shell, to try mu luck.

Thanks, Commanders!

 

[TFW Primus]

Hmm barnacles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnacle

Shares some similarities with the UA's "head".
The article says they stick to rocks, and 2 are required for reproduction...
Did anyone test, to drop 2 UAs to a rock?

Interesting. Maybe they need to be dropped on top of certain "outcrops".

 

[Kyp Shard]

(Caveat: THE TINFOIL IS STRONG WITH THIS ONE)

Ok here is something I found particularly interesting. There is a lot of talk about barnacles and how the UA resembles one plus the new meta-alloys so on... Admittedly I was ignorant as to what exactly a barnacle is past something that grows on the hulls of ships and piers, so in the name of science I read up on them and found a specific statement from Wikipedia interesting.



This is very interesting in how you see a lot of the UA's behavior reflected in the "swamping" behavior described in the passage above. The rest while related to barnacle behavior is not 100% interesting (unless the UAs start growing in size... Species 8472 anyone?) but I kept it because it describes what the opponents to barnacles do... AND interestingly enough the main opponent listed is..... a limpet.

HMMM we got those in ED.. not quite the biological type but we do.


Finally I didn't post it here but there is a rock on Mars that is known for its name "Barnacle Bill" the Wikipedia page to it (and all other rocks including the now famous Adirondack) is laid out rather interesting almost like something out of Horizons with the SRV... sorry Sojourner RoVer taking pictures by rocks etc..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnacle_Bill_(Martian_rock)

Looking at the beaky things on the head of the UA and this:

Coupled with what's known about the life cycle of barnacles, we could ourselves a shell of floating baby space barnacles, looking for metal rich planets to attach to and become adult space barnacles. Adult barnacles can look like this:

Which could be how that "temple" structure would look in full view.

Although limpets can look like this:

which also could get construed as how the 'temple' might look.

So we could indeed have us a shell of baby space barnacles looking for a metal rich planet, and out there somewhere are space limpets - the natural enemy of space barnacles, and therein the cure to station malfunctions.

So we find and breed space limpets and use them to eat the space barnacles that are growing in stations, causing malfunctions as they root into the station structure and damaging the circuits and wiring in the walls. MB said we could stop the spread NOW (in 1.4) and cure the stations SOON (in 1.5 and horizons).

Until we find a space limpet though, we could stop the spread of problems in stations maybe by issuing a warning via Galnet for stations to carefully examine their ducts and internal passageways for signs of space barnacle infestation.

Maybe I shouldn't have raided Patau's stash of that new onionhead strain...

 

[EAGLE 5]

Looking at the beaky things on the head of the UA and this:

http://animalsadda.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Barnacle-5.jpg

Coupled with what's known about the life cycle of barnacles, we could ourselves a shell of floating baby space barnacles, looking for metal rich planets to attach to and become adult space barnacles. Adult barnacles can look like this:

http://www.aphotomarine.com/images/barnacles/barnacle_perforatus_perforatus_balanus_10-07-12_1.jpg

Which could be how that "temple" structure would look in full view.

Although limpets can look like this:

http://www.port.ac.uk/uopnews/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Limpet_iStock1.jpg

which also could get construed as how the 'temple' might look.

So we could indeed have us a shell of baby space barnacles looking for a metal rich planet, and out there somewhere are space limpets - the natural enemy of space barnacles, and therein the cure to station malfunctions.

So we find and breed space limpets and use them to eat the space barnacles that are growing in stations, causing malfunctions as they root into the station structure and damaging the circuits and wiring in the walls. MB said we could stop the spread NOW (in 1.4) and cure the stations SOON (in 1.5 and horizons).

Until we find a space limpet though, we could stop the spread of problems in stations maybe by issuing a warning via Galnet for stations to carefully examine their ducts and internal passageways for signs of space barnacle infestation.

Maybe I shouldn't have raided Patau's stash of that new onionhead strain...

Now this is what I call putting your thinking hat on! (even if it is made out of tinfoil).

Now again I don't know about this because I've never used them personally but aren't there items called limpets in game just limpets? I recall pirates having those I'm assuming that is ammo for their hatch breakers. Maybe I'm being too simplistic with such an abstract concept but we should liberate some and experiment that way. Also I'm currently landed on a High Metal content planet that is (according to description) deemed highly valuable because of its composition. Shortly after the Merope rush started I decided to take a break and look for unusual things and Pleione 4 is it. Good place to start, some Thargoid history with the system but also a unique look to it which involves a giant impact crater with tons of ejecta and very small but distinct yellow areas dotted with highly reflective surface patches. Watch that 1.82G gravity tho... Jumpjets are not very effective if you Colin McRae your way off a cliff.

 

[Kicks]

Speaking of UAs... what were the ships that the UA did not draw? A T6 was one, from memory... perhaps they're looking for an incubator! Like, T6s being a midwife. Or something.

 

[Han_Zen]

Speaking of UAs... what were the ships that the UA did not draw? A T6 was one, from memory... perhaps they're looking for an incubator! Like, T6s being a midwife. Or something.

T6, T7 and T9.