Call of the wild - A list of pristine metallic rings

VicTic

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CapitanAceR said:
Hi guys, if you wish to reach me directly put a message in this forum thread or send a message directly (there's a "Private Messages" button at the top).

Gorrister, I was gonna ask you to take charge of the list because I was spending to much time farting around with the data when I just want to learn the technology. Perhaps we could keep the list here or on a new thread? what do you think? or maybe we could try and get it published in the Elite Dangerous Wiki. In addition I will publish it as a Web API.

Thanks, VicTic for spotting that problem with Eta Cephei, another reason to communitise the data and get it vetted.

Some of my systems do not have coordinates in any of the ED databases so I had to calculate them myself. I went down the triangulation path only to find that 1. It is not particularly accurate, and 2. (Doh!) It is easier just to read the coordinates off the galactic map in ED itself ;).
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Hello, commander, nice to meet you!

I also used to take coords manually from the Galaxy map. Now I use EDSM. There were a few systems in my list unknown to EDSM, so I just flew there and submitted the systems. It's easy, they will ask you to give 6 distances to different systems (that's why you have to be there), and voila!, you have the precise coords available via API.

EDSM was moving to a new server recently, that explains their downtimes. The guy who manages it, AuthorNet, can be reached on this forum, and he corrects the problem pretty quickly.

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Gorrister said:
Hi, Ace.
I think the most effizient way is to create a tool (or use an already created one) and let a selected members edit the data. We could create a community around it and put ourselves in the spotlight via galnet.
What do you think?
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Ok, I am now working on a similar tool for rare trading, with the ability to edit. So, creating a tool is not a problem. Let's think of what data we want to store for the project. I think what I have plus maybe the type of economy, plus I liked the idea of "Notes" that Ace Rimmer implemented.
 

Gorrister

Gorrister
Is the accuracy of reading the star map enough? I mostly take screenshots of the systems maps and read the coordinates later.
 

jrb

jrb
Possibly the option to calculate distance from starting location (current coordinates) to see if a refuel is required.
I find that a lot of newer cmdrs are the ones that take advantage of mining (nice safe profession at the beginning)....maybe something that would highlight refuel required or fuel scoop suggested....
might want to include mining essentials - lasers, refinery, *limpets (prospector and gathering) - I am amazed how many new players don't know what they need....
A list of the top 6 earning metals may help - listed by average unit selling price...
Maybe a link to a screenshot of the actual system would be beneficial to users....
 

Assimilator1

Assimilator1
Painite 33-34k
Platinum 17-18k (ish ;) )
Palladium 13-14.5k
Gold 9-10.5 k
Osimium 6(?)-7.5k
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Don't bother with anything else unless you've got a massive ship! ;) (as in bigger than a Type 7).
 

Gorrister

Gorrister
VicTic said:
Well, I think it doesn't really matter whether the distance is 120.53 or 120.17 ly. But if the precise data is available, I try to use it. You can easily check it on EDSM, for example, for system called "Fusang" the url would be this: http://www.edsm.net/api-v1/system?coords=1&sysname=Fusang
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Is that how EDSM prints the coordinates? Is Fusang a triangulated system, or are these coordinates based on astronomical data? How is the distance shown in the galaxy map?

Because if Fusang is a triangulated system the significant post decimal positions would be wrong.
 
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Gorrister

Gorrister
Assimilator1 said:
Painite 33-34k
Platinum 17-18k (ish ;) )
Palladium 13-14.5k
Gold 9-10.5 k
Osimium 6(?)-7.5k
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Don't bother with anything else unless you've got a massive ship! ;) (as in bigger than a Type 7).
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Jrb meant to provide such information in the new tool.
Maybe different configurations for mining in bubble systems or in outside systems.
 

Valije

Valije
Gorrister said:
Is that how EDSM prints the coordinates? Is Fusang a triangulated system, or are these coordinates based on astronomical data? How is the distance shown in the galaxy map?

Because if Fusang is a triangulated system the significant post decimal positions would be wrong.
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Instead o using the api you can search for systems in the webpage and the result will be something like this:

http://www.edsm.net/show-system/index/id/6860/name/Fusang

Since this particular system had coordinates and only 3 distances (I just added another one), it probably will be one of the orginal systems that their coordinates were provided by FD, I think.

I don't know why but it seems you need to be logged in the page to be able to search for systems, but you can see them if you know the right url.
 

Hysoka

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I ve found an interesting metalic pristine system not listed, how can i add it to the list ?
It would be cool to find a petalic pristine planet ring near from systems of aislings duval where painite price is almost 40 000 cr /t...

Another question, when you approach the metalic belt , how do you choose the best place ? is it a grey or a white part of the belt ? a rich or hazardous place ? or not ?
 
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Gorrister

Gorrister
Hi. Just post the name of the system and planet in this thread. I will add it as soon as possible. If you got the coordinates as well, that would be perfect.
If you like to find the nearest ring to aislings systems use ace rimmers tool. The link is in the first post.

I don't use extraction sites. I just drop slowly into the ring at the brightest part, because it got the highest density of meteorites. Just approache until you are nearly there, turn to minimum supercruise speed and thats it.
Hope that helps.
 

Hysoka

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ok Gorrister, the name of the system i ve just found yesterday is : HIP 100063 planet number 2 at 284 sl from is sun which is a type F star, and system is located at 107.59375 / -130.65625 / 165.71875, (sad that i m not the first discoverer :/ ^^ )
There are 2 outpost very near this mining site, but tthe prices are not the best.

This system is very interesting for me because he is near from system DURO (19 ly, 1 jump) where the coriolis station named abetti vision (231 sl) offer the best price for metal : painite is bought 39800 cr/t with a suffisant demand, same for platinium 21800 and palladium 15700.

What about the color of the rings inside mettalic belt ? you think white color is only a density parameter ? few players said grey rings would contain more metals... i dunno the truth
 
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Assimilator1

Assimilator1
Interesting point, I was just thinking last night about trying a darker colour ring in the system I'm mining at atm, I'll try it tonight & let you know what I find.
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Btw, their good prices at Duro!
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Well this is weird, the darker colour ring (not a bright grey, but a very dark grey) is indeed less dense (in & out of SC), but when actually travelling from asteroid to asteroid, they still seem about the same distance! And it seems about the same amount of luck for finding the good stuff (on this 1 trip anyway).
 
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VicTic

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Hysoka said:
ok Gorrister, the name of the system i ve just found yesterday is : HIP 100063 planet number 2 at 284 sl from is sun which is a type F star, and system is located at 107.59375 / -130.65625 / 165.71875, (sad that i m not the first discoverer :/ ^^ )
There are 2 outpost very near this mining site, but tthe prices are not the best.

This system is very interesting for me because he is near from system DURO (19 ly, 1 jump) where the coriolis station named abetti vision (231 sl) offer the best price for metal : painite is bought 39800 cr/t with a suffisant demand, same for platinium 21800 and palladium 15700.

What about the color of the rings inside mettalic belt ? you think white color is only a density parameter ? few players said grey rings would contain more metals... i dunno the truth
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This is an amazing find! It's the closest one to high-selling system (prices affected by Aisling Duval) I know.

I recently started looking for those high-prices systems close to pristine metallic rings, and the closet pair so far was HIP 87414/Pardis at 21 ly apart. This HIP 100063/Duro pair is even closer. I've posted this on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteMiners/comments/3zqkpx/on_selecting_the_mining_location/

I've even added "distance to closest high-sell system" to my calculator http://edtools.ddns.net/ - see the rightmost column.
 

jrb

jrb
VicTic said:
This is an amazing find! It's the closest one to high-selling system (prices affected by Aisling Duval) I know.

I recently started looking for those high-prices systems close to pristine metallic rings, and the closet pair so far was HIP 87414/Pardis at 21 ly apart. This HIP 100063/Duro pair is even closer. I've posted this on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteMiners/comments/3zqkpx/on_selecting_the_mining_location/

I've even added "distance to closest high-sell system" to my calculator http://edtools.ddns.net/ - see the rightmost column.
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Well done VicTic!
Great tool...!!
 

VicTic

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Gorrister said:
So...
You guys want a name for the community and present yourself as an organization, or just provide the tool?
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Doesn't matter to me, either way is fine.

The add/edit tool for the list is ready. Since you are in charge of the project, tell me who gets the access. Well, except you :)
 

jrb

jrb
Gorrister said:
So...
You guys want a name for the community and present yourself as an organization, or just provide the tool?
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Up to you Gorrister - you are in the lead here and have done a great job gathering and sharing information to make this possible - I will support any thing you would like to do.
 
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