UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn

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Gahhhh!
I fear my hunt for UA shells around other Nebulae needs to be curtailed until I am further away from the Core.
Just got to 200ly from "the center" of GREAE PHIO and switched to Economical as normal.
Number of jumps went to 135 ! I only need to spend 5 mins in 50 or so of them, but I am afraid my interest gland would be drained beyond refilling.
 
Gahhhh!
I fear my hunt for UA shells around other Nebulae needs to be curtailed until I am further away from the Core.
Just got to 200ly from "the center" of GREAE PHIO and switched to Economical as normal.
Number of jumps went to 135 ! I only need to spend 5 mins in 50 or so of them, but I am afraid my interest gland would be drained beyond refilling.

Ha ha. That sounds like a fun task.

I would pick just one system between 150-135ly and give that one 5 mins.
 
Gahhhh!
I fear my hunt for UA shells around other Nebulae needs to be curtailed until I am further away from the Core.
Just got to 200ly from "the center" of GREAE PHIO and switched to Economical as normal.
Number of jumps went to 135 ! I only need to spend 5 mins in 50 or so of them, but I am afraid my interest gland would be drained beyond refilling.

That's only five hours of hunting... :p

That would be about 3 weeks of play for me. Currently I'm in Trapezium sector next to a nebula hunting for planets that match the Barnacle habitat. It's not that easy to find. In the two hours last night I found none. All too hot or too cold. But at least I jumped through a dozen systems. If I find a single system with a single candidate... well, that's that session done for the week.
 
One more (persistent) barnacle:
Pleiades Sector JC-U B3-2 2 61,225 -56,024
Screenshot Barnacle Site PS JC-U B3-2 2 61,225 -56,024.jpg
 
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I can spot barnacles upto 4500m alt, are others finding the same distance cut off?

No, I'm getting bright green pixels intermittently up to about 8.5km.


I have had one instance in which I was able to see it at night from up to 10km directly above (I've tried to see the during day, but cutoff does seem to be lower). I posted the video of this on here some time ago. (actually on the first page of this thread). I have to admit I haven't done any further testing of this, and I'm not currently close to the Pleiades. When I'm back in a few days, I will look into it some more though.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=227901&p=3487515&viewfull=1#post3487515
 
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I have had one instance in which I was able to see it at night from up to 10km directly above (I've tried to see the during day, but cutoff does seem to be lower). I posted the video of this on here some time ago. (actually on the first page of this thread). I have to admit I haven't done any further testing of this, and I'm not currently close to the Pleiades. When I'm back in a few days, I will look into it some more though.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=227901&p=3487515&viewfull=1#post3487515

Yup my post was on sunlit side
 

rootsrat

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Not much contribution at all, but I just wanted to say I'm really impress with the friendliness, cooperation and generally a good vibes from the community in this thread. That's what Elite is all about to me. Right on, Commanders!
 
On the subject of this unusual ship... is it possible the reason the UAs scanned ships was simply so that *they* could replicate our designs in order to pass through space undetected... well except for the fact that they can fly faster than a Cobra set up for smuggling.

It's BSG all over again. "They look and feel human."

my thought exactely
 
Not much contribution at all, but I just wanted to say I'm really impress with the friendliness, cooperation and generally a good vibes from the community in this thread. That's what Elite is all about to me. Right on, Commanders!


Bah. Hum. Bug. You say that now.. but you just wait, me-lado, till the bad guys come knockin' and you'll be blaming all the nice folks in here for bringing war to our homes and loved ones. Unless you're a sado-lado in which case, just to your home... :D


PS I'm still saying it's nothing to do with Thargoids.
 
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Yup my post was on sunlit side

I've thoroughly tested barnacle visibility on my system now and I have to say that lighting matters A LOT. My original 8.5km was in darkness. In normal daylight I get about the 4+km that you do. At dusk and dawn, I'm getting a cutoff value of significantly less than 2km.
 

Ozric

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Oh... "Dr Arcanonn Suggests Link Between UAs and Mystery Ship" has been published. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=101801&p=3509612&viewfull=1#post3509612

I wonder if that means he's on the right trail.

My issue with that being published is that it is in direct contradiction with the Galnet article. When I first read the Galnet article I was confused at the inclusion of Christian Dock, after being reminded of it's history I thought that 'Speculation was rife at Obsidian' because the ship had scanned Christian Dock and was potentially looking for Palin and so if they had of found out any information about his movements (which lets face it wouldn't be hard) then they would be lead to Obsidian. However, now we have a document published that says the ship was scanning Obsidian Orbital, not Christian Dock.

My question for FD (Michael Brookes, Michael Brookes, Michael Brookes (just incase it's like Beetlejuice)) is, which one is right and which one is wrong? The Galnet article is either poorly worded/edited, or it is an old article that was not updated properly. We really need to know which, as there's no point in me doing my covert recon around Nganji and Christian Dock if the ship was never there.
 
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My issue with that being published is that it is in direct contradiction with the Galnet article. When I first read the Galnet article I was confused at the inclusion of Christian Dock, after being reminded of it's history I thought that 'Speculation was rife at Obsidian' because the ship had scanned Christian Dock and was potentially looking for Palin and so if they had of found out any information about his movements (which lets face it wouldn't be hard) then they would be lead to Obsidian. However, now we have a document published that says the ship was scanning Obsidian Orbital, not Christian Dock.

My question for FD (Michael Brookes, Michael Brookes, Michael Brookes (just incase it's like Beetlejuice)) is, which one is right and which one is wrong? The Galnet article is either poorly worded/edited, or it is an olod article that was not updated properly. We really need to know which, as there's no point in me doing my covert recon around Nganji and Christian Dock if the ship was never there.

Well, this:

This has been published in Achenar, Alioth and Sol.

Were you planning to continue the story about Arcannon receiving death threats? I was curious to see where it was going!

Makes me think that you could be right with the motive for the scan. but the first line "Speculation is rife at Obsidian Orbital this morning following a close-quarters encounter with an unidentified Diamondback Explorer." seems to place the encounter at Obsidian, otherwise you would quantify it. It's a typo, and again, maybe you are right. Maybe this post was in the planning a long time... WHICH makes it a milestone on the storyline!!!
 
Agree, there are two possible explanations: Either barnacles are observable from orbit, because their presence is indicated by patches that are somehow highlighted (in this case by the faint greenish color), or the mineral rich patches are indeed only a prerequisite for barnacles AND the number of barnacles on Pleiades Sector JC-U B3-2 2 increased dramatically within the last few days which makes them easy to find.

A massive increase in barnacle spawns? That would be interesting, to say the least.

Occam would have me believe otherwise (although I use an electric, so what would I know of razors), though. I've conducted a small survey of jc-u b3-2 2 (we need proper names for these planets) hitting about half a dozen "green spots". The only one where I found a barnacle was one where you had done so (no other duplicates), namely the 13.0 / 18.2 one (link).

Take a look at the planet from orbit:

jc-u b3-2 2 - from high orbit.jpg

The whole left side of the shot is pretty much green, as are a good number of craters. The big crater in the middle there did not, by the way, spawn a barnacle for me (despite the nice green tinge).

Going back to Thread 4, T-Dog posted this very nice pic showing exactly these green mineral deposits (his conclusion) alongside a shot of the brighter "sand-colored" mineral depots that other planets show:

o9YTOIW.jpg

It seems that for some reason the geology of jc-u b3-2 2 causes the greenish areas to appear slightly differently (mainly in impact craters, which is quite rare for the sand-colored deposits), but the comparison is quite clear, IMHO.

Take a look at this approach to a nice little double crater on jc-u b3-2 2:

jc-u b3-2 2 - double crater from orbit.jpgjc-u b3-2 2 - double crater - upper.jpgjc-u b3-2 2 - double crater - lower.jpg
(Twin craters, plus close-ups of each)

Nice distinct green color, no barnacle spawn. Coordinates are in the pics if you want to take a look and see if anything spawns for you.

So, has the incidence rate suddenly increased? I don't think so. There are certainly a lot of barnacles on jcu b3-2 2, going by your impressive ability to find them, however my (admittedly) small survey gives me no reason to believe that they are suddenly all over the place in these mineral rich deposits. There's also the issue of the barnacles actually spawning in the first place, which obscures any attempt at establishing an accurate count.

One final note: Like I said, I did find your barnacle at +13.0 / +18.2. Did you examine it? Upon landing, I discovered that the one that spawned for me was actually a "double". Not as in on-top-of-each-other, but rather it had 4 distinct spikes with the big metal alloy-dropping flowers instead of the normal 2.

This is probably just a weird spawn error (compensating me for all the times no barnacles were spawned), but it might be worth checking out.
 
The only one where I found a barnacle was one where you had done so (no other duplicates), namely the 13.0 / 18.2 one (link).

I had the one at 17.6 / 18.x confirmed. Picture 3 pages ago - was in solo mode.
Seems the spawn bug at work again.

On the other hand, you have those "mineral deposit patches" all over the galaxy. The Planet in Ch'i lin near one of the the CG Combat zones looks pretty similarly spotted as the planets in the Pleiades (haven't landed there, though).
 
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I had the one at 17.6 / 18.x confirmed. Picture 3 pages ago - was in solo mode.
Seems the spawn bug at work again.

That one's at -17.x / -18.x. I have no reason to think that happened to be one of the places I visited.

On the other hand, you have those "mineral deposit patches" all over the galaxy. The Planet in Ch'i lin near one of the the CG Combat zones looks pretty similarly spotted as the planets in the Pleiades (haven't landed there, though).

Yes, no question. But AFAIK all currently found barnacles have been found on mineral deposits. (Of course, since we're now only searching those, we're getting a huge dose of selection bias.)
 
I'm way out on the distant worlds expedition so I can't do this myself.

Could someone please scan Obsidian Orbital, with all posdible scanners, and see if anything out of the ordinary pops up. That ship had to be looking for something, nd maybe that something can be found by a player.
 
Oh... "Dr Arcanonn Suggests Link Between UAs and Mystery Ship" has been published. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=101801&p=3509612&viewfull=1#post3509612

I wonder if that means he's on the right trail.

I think Huros absolutely nailed it in another thread:

This "DBX" is probably an story setup for the emergence of Engineers and Synthesis with blue prints. I only wish it were thargoids...

(emphasis mine)

This makes perfect sense. FD need to do something to introduce these engineers and the "faster than normal, but still normal design, ships" is a perfect candidate.
 
I'm way out on the distant worlds expedition so I can't do this myself.

Could someone please scan Obsidian Orbital, with all posdible scanners, and see if anything out of the ordinary pops up. That ship had to be looking for something, nd maybe that something can be found by a player.

That's a very good idea: I was planning to do it last night already. But I didn't have time to play.

I think Huros absolutely nailed it in another thread:

(emphasis mine)

This makes perfect sense. FD need to do something to introduce these engineers and the "faster than normal, but still normal design, ships" is a perfect candidate.

I agree with Huros in fact.
It could really be a fitting way to introduce the new looting and crafting expansion.
 
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