The Star Citizen Thread v 4
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I know that reading comprehension is not a very common skill in this thread, but... did you missed the last few hundred pages of people calling it a scam, how SC will fail, almost as if they wish that would happen?
Now a TOS deadline is a thing here. Info for you, that is another part of Smarts Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt campaign. No even outside of the Smartie circle even cares about that.
Source your quotes.
so? a million people calling it a scam doesn't matter 1 bit, because the development of the game is hunky dory. Unless it isn't. They will have a epic game to show us doubters wrong. Again with smart lol who cares about that. TOS thing is real and I look forward to seeing how its dealt with tbh.
How does a man with no interaction with the development interact with the game? Or the TOS that cig made? So they have to provide financial information about the kickstarted funded game. how dare DS make them do what they said.
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You obviously care, deeply enough to post generalised insults about it.
If the ToS expiry is nothing, then you get to be happy. The lights stay on at CiG tomorrow, people look at the person making the most noise about it with a more critical eye in the future.
What could possibly go wrong?
You should be happy this is being made public, so that when it is a complete non-event you have another piece of data to show when demonstrating your belief in CiG's ability to finish the game (or games).
Yes and I stand by my assertion. Basically most of the people are jumping from: It must be a scam, they are criminals, they game will never be completed, it is all a cheap hack, back to it is a scam.
Jumping around in circles, congratulating each other how edgy you are. Yes, definitely stupid. The general tone here is just one step above the SA forums were folks had fantasies about mass suicides of SC backers once the project collapses. That is also hardly surprising as a number of posters were also regular posters in this specific thread.
Ask yourself: If SC would be on the verge of collapse. What would be the point of this entire smear campaign? The Smarties could just sit back and wait for it to happen, but what they actually do is go to various game forums, make wild accusations.
They are not all stupid, but the ones who take their stuff as face value. Yes they are, very much so.
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I am out here. Thiis part of the E : D community is not worth talking to.
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Whilst I was waiting for my coffee I searched this thread for "scam" - roughly 92 posts - a lot of which are by supporters claiming detractors are calling it a scam when the vast majority of us are not and many other of those 92 are people quoting the original post.
Almost no-one is actually saying they think it's a deliberate scam rather than a horribly miss-managed but genuine attempt to make a game.
ETA - I can't see anyone in here seriously saying they are actually on the verge of collapse either. It feels like you're reading stuff elsewhere and then replying as though it's been said here.
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A million? LOL!
Currently there are 1,386,595 citizen, if a million of them would be angry on cig i belive we would see that.
Sry bro, but the mighty "sc attack force" army is currently just a very very very neat minority.
Dont make something up, currently we are far far far away from doom.
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Good luck with it, hope you get your money back. If I put more than I did in to this I would try to refund this too.
your posts reflect a serious unhappiness with DS and sa forums and I cant fix that. But lets talk about the issues that cloud this game. The financials in the tos. this is a good thing? to see how your money is being spent. I don't see a problem with anyone having this, as it would shut up critics or reassure fans of the game.
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A million? LOL!
Currently there are 1,386,595 citizen, if a million of them would be angry on cig i belive we would see that.
Sry bro, but the mighty "sc attack force" army is currently just a very very very neat minority.
Dont make something up, currently we are far far far away from doom.
are u kidding me. well I'm sorry you took my words at literal face value. we tend to use a million as lots. sorry I didn't write it in a way that mistranslated. Besides that's not how it was written. I could use trillions the fact remains until they show a worth while game backer interest is going to get interesting. Way to twist words and quote them.
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You see same thing in other forum contexts where financial assets are traded, like stock trading forums. Once the money flows, the fun stops. There are too many people involved with Star Citizen, who are not interested in video games nor space sims and you can clearly tell them apart from genuine enthusiasts (like Scott Manley).
Ironically this perfectly fits CR's "evil publisher" narrative of "greedy guys in suits" allegedly ruining video games. It's very clear that CIG tailors their product towards this shady clientèle, because its benefits them financially. So for people just interested in playing space video games, it negatively affects the game itself, the community and of course the communication about it. You can't go anywhere except some pay-to-post comedy forum, without being drowned in "pushing".
Then iam sorry too for this missunderstanding,it is hard to differ, since some would really belive that.
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That's ok mate. I understand that English is not first language for many. Way I wrote it was very colloquial in English. But I don't want this to distract that the TOS is up and I don't care about refunds. What I want to know are people going to ask for actual financial information they promised in it?
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I think it's a little bit of a stretch to use delays as evidence that a game is in trouble or a scam. There are plenty of examples of great games that had delays. Most recently, No Man's Sky has had a delay and people lost their minds over as little a delay as two months. I'm still hopeful it will be a great game. Some times studios just need extra time.
Thx for the answer.....My opinion about FM didn't change at all from the very first day that CIG released DFM aKa AC until today and I honestly believe that FM are essentially the same now.Sure I admit there was some minor tweaks here and there for this half of decade and overall it does feel a bit more polished but that doesn't change the fact that still feels just wrong as they did from day 1.For me it was always that feeling like I been playing an actual FPS and that "someone"just glued an Cockpit picture all over my screen...It's just Twitchy,jerky fast-paced mess where ships lacks so much in their mass that's beyond of unreal....It's like that someone been forcing me to play an arcade game on the same way as I usually do when I play Simulation...and that's just feels so wrong.
I don't believe anything anymore that comes from the CIG mouth as they gamble all my thrust long time ago but I still want them to make this game even if it's going to be just mediocre or average and not the game what was originally pitched....At this moment I rather play SC from the 3rd person view(ARCADE STYLE-as it is) because at least like that I can enjoy the very nice GFX and the current ART which I still finding very amusing....
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Insignificant_The_Galaxy_Cat
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Aww, going away so soon after joining? What's the matter? Not being totally subservient to Mr Roberts enough for your liking?
Because so far, the vast majority of the salient points being made on this thread are being made by folks who have genuine concerns about what the "vision" of Chris Roberts is when put up against the actual reality of what's been produced so far.
So, continue to push the myth that folks here are being "unfair" to Chris Roberts and CiG. That we are just a bunch of acolytes of a largely failed gaming developer who is taking pot shots at someone who is more "successful" than he is. That we are just here to slam without thought or reason, Star Citizen and the people working on it.
I'm sure that will make you feel better, not withstanding the fact that it is almost certainly ill-founded and silly.
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Delayed games are not always in serious trouble, but games in serious trouble are always delayed.
No Mans Sky have announced (before the date was due) that they are delaying the game, they've explained why (they want to polish it more). People have gone internet crazy about it but frankly I'm not concerned. It's happened once and they've communicated the delay, how long the delay will be for and why there's a delay. Two months is not a big deal.
Star Citizen has sailed past every date with no word from CIG, other than the chairman complaining that backers had the gall to expect him to keep his word. No communication about the delay, it's duration or why it was delayed. Just sulking by the man himself. The original release date was in 2014 that's two years ago, that's a big deal. The third version of the TOS has the latest delivery date for star citizen as midnight tonight a little over eight hours from where I am. Again no word from CIG that's a big deal. They just dropped out of E3 whilst saying they were far too busy, that's a big deal.
NMS is fine and thinking of quality, CIG is in full on panic mode (and if they're not they really should be).
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Insignificant_The_Galaxy_Cat
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Well the thing is with No Man's Sky, this is pretty much the first major-ish delay that they have had during the entire time they've made the game. With Star Citizen it's just *another* one to put on top of a litany of other delays, missed deadlines and other problems with it.
Most folks are very, very confident that come the revised release date for No Man's Sky arrives, that the game will come out there and then. The same sort of assuredness can *not* be made with Star Citizen though, just going on past history.
That's "The 7 Stages of Grief" syndrome.....And usaually when we lost something or someone that we "loved" then we must go through the folowing 7 Stages:
1)SHOCK & DENIAL 2)PAIN & GUILT 3)ANGER & BARGAINING 4)"DEPRESSION", REFLECTION, LONELINESS 5)THE UPWARD TURN 6)RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH 7)ACCEPTANCE & HOPE
The things is that some individuals (as from your post above)get locked on certain stage and refuse to proceed on the next one......I believe that I was locked for long on num.3 but soon after I take a brake from anything that have to do with SC in period of 6 months I felt that part of depression&loneliness...Now I am at the upward turn and I started to adjust to life without SC....
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Well said. I could add that technically what's been delivered is lacking to put it mildly. I find it odd that basic platform systems are broken while they're preoccupied with putting a shop in the game.
To be somewhat fair, I can see a situation where this would make sense (due to complexity of implementation of one system before another).
I'd have also expected that a lot of the foundation SQ42 is stepping on will come from SC. If SC has such a poor platform .. then surely SQ42 can't be much farther ahead?
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