UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn

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H3lios

H3lios
Is it possible to accidently trigger an event if you play solo and don't realize you've found something? I found a pair of Barnacles in california a few days ago, like literally right before all this started. I didnt report it because I assumed far better players than me already found them.

CALIFORNIA SECTOR DL-Y D4 C 6

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If anyone is interested, found a good bit of arsenic there actually.
 

ilo

ilo
H3lios said:
Is it possible to accidently trigger an event if you play solo and don't realize you've found something? I found a pair of Barnacles in california a few days ago, like literally right before all this started. I didnt report it because I assumed far better players than me already found them.

CALIFORNIA SECTOR DL-Y D4 C 6

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If anyone is interested, found a good bit of arsenic there actually.
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Solo is just a filter for what other users do you encounter. Everything else, what you do and what others do in the galaxy, is shared.
Congrats for the finding!!!!
 
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JSM

JSM
Another interesting thing about the Heart Nebula (besides the stars in pleiades nebula pointing to it).

Is the fact two galaxies are nearby...

From Wikipedia:
The Heart Nebula, IC 1805, Sharpless 2-190, lies some 7500 light years away from Earth and is located in the Perseus Arm of the Galaxy in the constellation Cassiopeia. This is an emission nebula showing glowing gas and darker dust lanes. The nebula is formed by plasma of ionized hydrogen and free electrons.
The very brightest part of this nebula (the knot at the right) is separately classified as NGC 896, because it was the first part of this nebula to be discovered.

The galaxies Maffei 1 and Maffei 2 are nearby, although light extinction from the Milky Way makes them difficult to find and once they are found, difficult to define features within. Once thought to be part of our own Local Group, they are now known to be part of another nearby group, the IC 342/Maffei Group, the closest galaxy group to our own.
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CMDR Moortz

CMDR Moortz
This is true. Drew mentions the phrase 'Staging posts' at some point in regards to the Nebulae, which is a little disconcerting. When you are out near the Heart Nebula you can see two galaxies hanging out there.

You could argue that if you had the means to cross inter-galactic space and wanted to 'form up' so to speak, you might well do it behind the gas and dust of a nebula.

It also crossed my mind that the 'Rift' might be referring to a tear in space/time that would allow whatever sentient beings to cross into our galaxy.
 

CookieJarviz

CookieJarviz
CMDR Moortz said:
This is true. Drew mentions the phrase 'Staging posts' at some point in regards to the Nebulae, which is a little disconcerting. When you are out near the Heart Nebula you can see two galaxies hanging out there.

You could argue that if you had the means to cross inter-galactic space and wanted to 'form up' so to speak, you might well do it behind the gas and dust of a nebula.

It also crossed my mind that the 'Rift' might be referring to a tear in space/time that would allow whatever sentient beings to cross into our galaxy.
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Im supprised nobody has even tried Data-Mining this game...
 

kozality

kozality
JSM said:
Is the fact two galaxies are nearby...
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I think in this case, "nearby" is defined as "close to the same viewing angle" and not distance.

While that's interesting that the IC 342 is the closest galaxy group, at these distances, it would be hard to resolve a trajectory from one galaxy group to a single feature in our own galaxy. Recall that there are other galaxies in our group that are likely to contain life, let alone the possibility that something might inhabit a world out in or beyond the rift.

In short, I think the point about the two galaxies being in the same constellation might be a red herring.



On the other hand, Tyrannid invasion, anyone? [woah]
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
LordZoltan said:
Yeah I was just trying to find that article - I know it was before 1/10/2015... sorry 1/10/3301... as I found a post of mine from thread 3 making reference to it and I remember reading it (I think it was Palin himself) but I'm thinking it's gone the way of the Mayflower
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I've just had a Google & also looked through Hendrich's site but cant find the origin of this "UAs broadcast navigation data over large distances" quote. Later I'll have a look on my PC as I had a log of various UA-related stuff from last year. However I did find the following on the UA Wikia:


22 June: CMDR MahdDogg publishes his panel discussion about Powerplay, in which CMDR Kerrash mentions that "about the whole UA thing, there is something behind that, but no one has figured it out yet" (29m 30s) and that "[Frontier] have put some really obvious [clues] in there and we don't want to put anything else in" for fear of spoiling what is to come in the future.


27 June: CMDR Kerrash talks about various things, including Thargoid conjecture ("They are coming"), and that the UA and confirms there is something to it, and that "if any people watching have got in with the UA thing and got halfway in and not looked into it anymore, please pleeease carry on looking, there is something there, there is an interesting secret there, please look, and the SAP 8 containers as well, there is something going on, dont give up!".


5 July: CMDR Kerrash comes into the new thread, asks "Has anybody cracked it yet?", when gently prodded follows up with "Frontier did not spend all this effort in making a wild goose chase, I would imagine quite the fanfare when the truth is uncovered. BTW Are we even sure it is morse code?" and "Yes there is more to it, I will see if I can get FD to drop another hint".

EDIT: "some really obvious clues in there"- more obvious than the Morse & pointing behaviour?
Are we even sure it is morse code?"- something other than the Morse code we know of?
Something going on with SAP8 & UAs?

I was going to ask can we reverse engineer these points to see if we missed anything to do with the UA; however have now seen JSM's post #7284 on the blue star type arrow- perhaps that's what we missed?

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Giddien said:
Could the permit locked systems be FD's way of making it easyer for us to locate "Somthing" in Barnards?
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Wouldn't be surprised-I suspect they are frustrated with our failure to find/follow/decode what must be (to them) "obvious" clues. So they could now be trying to guide us a bit to pick up the pace on the storyline without giving us clues that would be so obvious as to be spoilers.
 
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Ozric

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Ozric
Do we know that we haven't discovered any of those things in the last 11 months though? It would seem odd for there to be an arrow hand crafted in the stars pointing us where we need to go for well over a year and MB not beating us around the head with it. I'm not in game atm to look, but does the first star in the arrow have any significance, is the Heart Nebula actually on the same z axis as the arrow (not that the stars themselves will be). There's always one phrase that keeps coming back to my mind after a few weeks of science.

Can't see the forest for the trees.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
irongut said:
They have but if you do it in this thread the forum mods will come down on you like a ton of bricks and you'll get added to a lot of ignore lists. No peeking behind the curtain!
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This. Sadly, at times you do "see things" inadvertently that just can't be unseen when googling around for non-forum information. Truth be told, the things like that I've seen tend to actually hinder rather than help... just ask some people here about "Barnicles"
 

Darth Ender

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ilo said:
they locked Col and we think it is related to the Barnard's loop? mmmm I'm not sure..
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Not every col sector is locked. Only a few. This is not limited to just barnard's loop. In fact, barnard's loop is pretty open and freely able to be traveled in. It's the Horsehead nebula that's blocked.

A number of sectors between witch head nebula and horshead nebula are blocked. Also i believe there is a sector or two between horshead and rosette nebula that are permit only.

There is definitely going to be something going down in the area, but it doesn't appear to be related to barnard's loop so much as it is just that entire general area.

Plenty of paths exist though to move through / around the permit blocked areas. But make no mistake, thousands if not tens of thousands of systems are now off-limits.
 

Vision1776

Vision1776
Han_Zen said:
This is also good thinking, but I don't think that there is another UA shell. Here are my reasons:

All UAs point to Merope. This started wit the release of 1.4 (beta to be precise). I was there when Ratking15 took the first ever UA to Merope for testing.
All the early testing were done on UAs that were not found in the Shell. Ratking's was liberated from a convoy, others were found in SSS in the Pleiades and some were even duplicates from the instancing bug.

As a game object, all UAs are the same. They are cargo canisters. There is nothing suggesting that the object knows where it was spawned. In fact, it probably re-spawns when jettisoned. I doubt that the object exists while we have it in the cargo hold. They have never shown any indication to be persistent.

This means that to have a second shell, the game would need a second UA object. UAs in the new shell will have to be of a different type, that point to a different place. This is of course as very small task for the devs to make a copy object with a few changed properties, so it's not impossible.

If we are to believe the Wings trailer, the first UAs were found in the California Nebula or beyond. They still started to point to Merope, when 1.4 dropped.
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Is it confirmed that the first UA's came from california yet pointed to Merope? Because the programming side of objects is very simple. An object consists of values. One instance of an object can point to Merope while a separate instance of an object can point to another star. In other words Objects are usually variable and not constant.


These UA's point to Merope for a reason and Merope has been searched again and again. I am still there looking myself. Nothing aside from the 1 barnacle has been discovered. It has been confirmed that the UAs formed a bubbled around Merope. I highly suspect that there are 3 special nebulae with this similar bubble around them of UAs. Using the 3 you can triangulate the origin or center of the triangle.
 
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JSM

JSM
Ozric said:
but does the first star in the arrow have any significance, is the Heart Nebula actually on the same z axis as the arrowm
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The point of the arrow is Maia (Which has a black hole in the system)
The Heart Nebula has a system with a black hole in it. (Heart Sector ZE-A E11)

The nebula is not on the same z-axis. merope is -150 heart nebula is 117

Edit: Could be a possibility that the arrow could be pointing at something else or it was just a lucky chance that all the B class stars around the Pleiades Nebula form an arrow when viewed from above.
 
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Ozric

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Ozric
Just to confirm something that I'd been wondering about. Since the barnacles changed on Thursday, I have been able to scan them all again. However I have just logged back in and the barnacle is in the same state as it was yesterday, but it tells me I have already scanned the structure. I'm off to finish scanning them all again.

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JSM said:
The point of the arrow is Maia (Which has a black hole in the system)
The Heart Nebula has a system with a black hole in it. (Heart Sector ZE-A E11)

The nebula is not on the same z-axis. merope is -150 heart nebula is 117
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I was thinking of the other end, the start of the shaft of the arrow, but you say the point is in Maia not Merope?
 

Vision1776

Vision1776
I dont think that locking systems would be their way of giving clues. Locking systems is for the purpose of touching them up. Some bugs to fix or content to be added by hand. My opinion.
 

JSM

JSM
Ozric said:
I was thinking of the other end, the start of the shaft of the arrow, but you say the point is in Maia not Merope?
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Yep as you can see:
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Also another curious thing about the arrow, is that a lot of the stars in the arrow are from the Greek mythology.
I.E.:
Merope
Maia
Asterope
Atlas
Celaeno
Pleione

Vision1776 said:
I dont think that locking systems would be their way of giving clues. Locking systems is for the purpose of touching them up. Some bugs to fix or content to be added by hand. My opinion.
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Or another possibility is maybe Fdev is trying to nudge us in the right direction and say "No-there's nothing in this area you need to look elsewhere" (Although this idea seems a bit far-fetched and counter-intuitive)
 
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