The Star Citizen Thread v5

Status
Thread Closed: Not open for further replies.
I read a while back somewhere that this year the Gamescom showing was supposed to be more like a meet 'n greet with beers and stuff. Maybe I'm thinking about a different show but I thought it was Gamescom which would explain the whole just having streams showing off and a small booth for people to hang out around watching the various bugs pop up but hopefully getting the attendees so sloshed that they forget about the dismal showing.

I guess that shoots the whole "just wait until Gamescom this year they'll really show off something great there" in anticipation of the release of SQ42 this year - which obviously isn't going to happen and was so far fetched when it was being stated that those who believe it clearly live in an alternate reality.

And.. geez, it gets even worse for them if they don't have anything new or inspiring to show since I just noticed the dates. No Man's Sky will have just been released two weeks prior and will either have tons of praise which will reflect even worse on the current state of development with SQ42 at the very least not to mention SC as a whole, the other option is NMS is a bland flop but some impressive bits that SQ42/SC will still need to demonstrate it can do better.
 
Last edited:
Maybe they're downplaying so they can do some sort of TA-DAHH!!!?

They really need something..

Was thinking the same thing.

Recently they've talked about the Stanton system and also talked about canyon flying on PG planets etc. I was hoping we would see some of this rather than just being told how wonderful it is.
 
Last edited:
It is true, was admitted to hospital with an infection and will likely be there for a few days.

Source
https://twitter.com/ballroom_blitz/status/754359230518353925

im actually worried about Ben. :(
Morbid obesity is you know Morbid. I hope he survives since sepsis has 15% chance to kill the patient :(
If he survives i hope he looks for change in lifestyle.
I wish best luck for him. I feel like star citizen is source of stress for him and he should step back from project. Its not good for his health
(just look at ben pictures from before the project and compare to current picture. Its pretty clear that Ben stress eats)
 
im actually worried about Ben. :(
Morbid obesity is you know Morbid. I hope he survives since sepsis has 15% chance to kill the patient :(
If he survives i hope he looks for change in lifestyle.
I wish best luck for him. I feel like star citizen is source of stress for him and he should step back from project. Its not good for his health
(just look at ben pictures from before the project and compare to current picture. Its pretty clear that Ben stress eats)

I know he's just Roberts' employee, but shouldn't the whole atmosphere in the office be a lot more lax than in other companies? They aren't beholden to anyone, they can't fail, because they already go paid. They can literally stop all the development and go live in apartments laden with gold and cocaine, as long as they don't announce anything they don't have to be issuing any refunds. Besides, it's all donations... right?
 
I know he's just Roberts' employee, but shouldn't the whole atmosphere in the office be a lot more lax than in other companies? They aren't beholden to anyone, they can't fail, because they already go paid. They can literally stop all the development and go live in apartments laden with gold and cocaine, as long as they don't announce anything they don't have to be issuing any refunds. Besides, it's all donations... right?
Do note that. That ben regards chris highly as creator of wing commander. The sheer pressure of having to deal with creation of wing commander 5 might be getting to ben. Alternatively it could be pressure of having to downplay what has been promised and ben is taking it bit too heavily.Either case its not good for ben's health.
 
im actually worried about Ben. :(
Morbid obesity is you know Morbid. I hope he survives since sepsis has 15% chance to kill the patient :(
If he survives i hope he looks for change in lifestyle.
I wish best luck for him. I feel like star citizen is source of stress for him and he should step back from project. Its not good for his health
(just look at ben pictures from before the project and compare to current picture. Its pretty clear that Ben stress eats)
I don't think we should talk about the possibilities of death of someone... but he seems to be making progress.

https://twitter.com/banditloaf/status/755093797902684160

Ben Update: Sounds like he'll be in for a few more days, but he's making progress and he's got plenty of company.
https://twitter.com/discolando/status/754732500342050816

I know he's just Roberts' employee, but shouldn't the whole atmosphere in the office be a lot more lax than in other companies? They aren't beholden to anyone, they can't fail, because they already go paid. They can literally stop all the development and go live in apartments laden with gold and cocaine, as long as they don't announce anything they don't have to be issuing any refunds. Besides, it's all donations... right?
Of course they can fail, they want to deliver the game, a great game, they don't want to fail to the many supporters they have. Obviously there is stress.
 
Last edited:
So back on subject.

I wonder if they'll have the pirate station be a weapons free zone. It would make sense since they are the scum and villainy of the galaxy(awesome parties tho). But I would be concerned it would make those areas a huge target to get in and mess up any ships real fast then head back to olistar and be untouchable.

Will require a lot of balancing maybe, maybe pirates can alter their computer for weapons free at olistar, and if you're a law abiding citizen olistar will lift the weapons lock...my head hurts.
 
Last edited:
So back on subject.

I wonder if they'll have the pirate station be a weapons free zone. It would make sense since they are the scum and villainy of the galaxy(awesome parties tho). But I would be concerned it would make those areas a huge target to get in and mess up any ships real fast then head back to olistar and be untouchable.

Will require a lot of balancing maybe, maybe pirates can alter their computer for weapons free at olistar, and if you're a law abiding citizen olistar will lift the weapons lock...my head hurts.

They haven't even gotten to the point of ships having locks on them so that only their owners can use them. I doubt they've thought about what to do with a pirate station, just that they will make one.
 
They haven't even gotten to the point of ships having locks on them so that only their owners can use them. I doubt they've thought about what to do with a pirate station, just that they will make one.

Sadly this is probably true. But if they watch these forums it might get them thinking about it. Can only hope, right?
 
Well, I'm back from suspension.

You probably shouldn't be posting on a UK forum as you don't have the relevant experience. 😉
How can something be extremely complex and one dimensional?!

Considering that this game is a global game kind of makes you wonder why you posted that comment. Also convoluted isn't synonymous with being complex. Convoluted means that something is all over the place in a complex way ;)

Interesting point this, and a common fallacy.

Objective concensus can be made on (e.g.) art, and it's very simple how it works.

If the vast majority of reviews (or viewers) say that the 'art' is good, then it is objectively good. If the 'art' (or music or film etc) becomes hugely popular, then it is objectively great, or a masterpiece if you prefer.

Whether or not you like it remains your opinion alone, but the majority view cannot be dismissed by calling it 'subjective'.

Similarly, saying 'well I like it' does not invalidate common criticisms.

So, as The Dude himself might have said - 'Yeah, well, you know, that's just like your opinion man, but then, like, if that is also the opinion of the large majority who hold an opinion, then, you know, I guess it could be an objective fact, man.'

If you quoted the rest of what I posted, you would see that we both agree. This is what I said "The description of a sub-par product is purely subjective. What you may find sub-par, others may like. The only way to objectively judge if a product is 'sub-par' is by taking an aggregate of the overall opinions."

It wasn't physical stuff "once it gets released" it was promised 2 years ago to be delivered by then. I am glad the person I quoted had a valid and concise argument, considering it was me - myself. Thank you!

First, I haven't the faintest clue as to how you are stating ships put up for sale 2-3 years ago make my point moot. That doesn't even start to encroach on any of my point.

Squawking42 was not the point of all of this - it was such a small aspect to get players into Star Citizen. As a matter of fact - I don't want Squawking42 since it was supposed to be a small aspect of Star Citizen - it was to be played and then you would be a "Citizen" without any other hurdles to cross in this immaculate vision. Star Citizen was the game, Squawking42 was a small part of it. The "intro" if you will. I don't even have to elaborate on that as it is in every early video from CR himself that says it.

And as I've said before, I don't get any physical merchandise or any other minutia from the brain trust that is CR/RSI/CIG - I only get the digital crap they have so far that isn't even worth the bits and bytes being transferred across the internet.

I am now calling you on the fact that you said you were neutral in all this but as I type this out and was going to search it I see that you are banned so never mind. I won't waste any more time.

Yup, you're right! I didn't read that you quoted yourself, my bad.

If I may ask, when did you back?

So you call into question my neutrality because??

I have my own grievances but they are minor, or at least minor to me. The ToS thing is concerning but it doesn't effect me because I knew when that money left my bank account, I wouldn't want it back. I am getting antzy about the length of development but I also know that games take time to "complete". With that said, I'm not going to get concerned until 2018 because CIG should have something out by then. I do find it asinine that they sell ships that aren't finalized but again I know things change in games. Everything else is little quirks I have noticed but don't really care about.
 
I agree with you, while C.Roberts didn't use the specific words COD killer, he has clearly indicated that he wants SC to out perform COD.

How is that different from other FPS games claiming that they want to out perform CoD. Regardless if they do or don't, seems like you're cherry picking just so you have something to complain about.
 
Considering that this game is a global game kind of makes you wonder why you posted that comment.

I'm using satire to point out how illogical your belief is that only people who are games developers...oh it doesn't matter. If you get it you get and if you don't you don't.

Also convoluted isn't synonymous with being complex. Convoluted means that something is all over the place in a complex way ;)

You might want to have a think about those two sentences...
 
How is that different from other FPS games claiming that they want to out perform CoD. Regardless if they do or don't, seems like you're cherry picking just so you have something to complain about.

Pure FPS games claiming to surpass other pure FPS games is one thing, a multi-genre single player game which happens to be a side project alongside a multi-genre MMO surpassing one of the most successful pure FPS games is quite something else. It's like FD claiming before horizons launched that SRV driving on planets would surpass Spintires in off road mechanics.
 
Funny, I never even suggested S42 does have multiplayer. Quite the opposite in fact, I suggested that S42 might benefit from the lack of netcode, i.e. the lack of a multiplayer component. Savvy? That said, I stand by the basic premise that S42 and SC share enough technology (animation engine, physics, flight model, FPS mechanics, planetary landings (some day, if I'm being generous), EVA) that having access to a build of SC offers more evidence to believe that S42 is not going to appear in any vaguely acceptable form this year (one of the many promises Roberts made that you have conveniently forgotten) than there is to believe otherwise. We'll see.

But well done invoking DS out of the blue, without any provocation. He is becoming the personified straw man of SC debate among you fanatics.

Talking of fanatics, yes, I have noticed that this individual was banned, just like all the others (let's assume they're actually distinct individuals) who seem to believe that ending a sentence with a winking emoticon means that their nonsensical arguments are somehow irrefutable.

Here is a direct quote from your post "Of course, S42 will be released in the next 5 months according to Roberts. I'm looking forward to seeing what secret build they have up their sleeve, or at least how the game magically starts working and being fun when netcode(tm) isn't an issue". That to me seems like you're commenting about SQ42 and not the MMO Star Citizen.

Nope, using a winky emoticon/emoji doesn't mean that my argument is irrefutable. I'm using it as a tongue and cheek way to signify something that is a fact and true. Word of advice, don't over analyze things.

- - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -

I am not going to pile on to a guy who has already been banned; I thought of a novel point to make (new to me at least).

While few of us here are expert game DEVELOPERS, I am confident that a large number of us are expert game CONSUMERS. I know I have spent tens of thousands of hours playing hundreds of games over three decades, spanning the Commodore VIC 20, ZX spectrum +, Sega Master System (Genesis), N64, PlayStations 1, 2, 3, and Vita, Xbox and Xbox360, Dreamcast, and PC.

We know what a good game look and feels like, by comparing our experience with hundreds of others. SC can look incredible in screenshots (not do well in motion as far as I have seen). However, the bits I have played do not fare well. I had a few minutes of actual fun in the racing module during a free fly week, where the game reached the giddy heights of mediocre. I have played hundreds of games that I have enjoyed more, maybe more than a thousand. That is expert opinion in my book! As always I feel I must state that I am not prejudiced against the future SC that I have yet to see, I hope that it's fun.

This is true but that doesn't make your opinion any more/less right. It's just an opinion and, like I said previously, to gather an objective opinion about something it's best to take an aggregate of the supplied opinions. Most people I have read or watched seem to enjoy Star Citizen so I think the average is their favor whether this game is good or not.
 
This is true but that doesn't make your opinion any more/less right. It's just an opinion and, like I said previously, to gather an objective opinion about something it's best to take an aggregate of the supplied opinions. Most people I have read or watched seem to enjoy Star Citizen so I think the average is their favor whether this game is good or not.

Yeah, but that's just your opinion.
 
How is that different from other FPS games claiming that they want to out perform CoD. Regardless if they do or don't, seems like you're cherry picking just so you have something to complain about.

It's not and it's also really dumb when they claim it. Especially when it comes from a newly started company that hasn't released anything other than a buggy mess. I'm still looking forward to the vaulting and parkour Chris promised back in the start of the year.
 
https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/755133395278057472

CnrF0TKUEAE5Od8.jpg


Looks like he is on the mend :)
 
I dunno, Toast is looking pretty dodgy there by the plugs. I'd keep an eye on him!

I do hope he gets better! Sounds like a pretty rotten way to spend a summer and the recovery is pretty horrible, hope he takes it easy and has very good insurance.
 
Status
Thread Closed: Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom