So I wonder, have the inevitable "Well, they never intended to show anything at Gamescom anyways so there." started yet?
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So I wonder, have the inevitable "Well, they never intended to show anything at Gamescom anyways so there." started yet?
it has. They are clearly saving all the big reveals for citizencon, is the general line of reasoning.
Patch 2.5 feature list
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/4th2e4/official_25_feature_list/
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/4th2e4/official_25_feature_list/
https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/755133395278057472
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnrF0TKUEAE5Od8.jpg
Looks like he is on the mend
Anyone noticed this black guy appears everywhere now ?
To be more precise, ever since that "the Escapist" article accused Sandi of racism.
Yes, I was referring to S42, well spotted. At no point was I referring to SC. I understand the distinction. Nor does that quote say anything about S42 having a multiplayer component, in fact it actually implies that it doesn't (bolded). I do see how the use of the phrase "the game magically starts working" might be confusing for you, however. But rest assured, "the game" I was referring to was S42. I have few illusions about SC ever working and/or being fun.
So you didn't back/order/pledge during the kickstarter like I did. So you didn't get a chance to read the kickstarter ToS that specifically says this:
"The Estimated Delivery Date listed on each reward is not a promise to fulfill by that date, but is merely an estimate of when the Project Creator hopes to fulfill by.
Project Creators agree to make a good faith attempt to fulfill each reward by its Estimated Delivery Date."
Seems to me that CIG did make a good faith attempt at releasing their product but because the scope changed (decided by the community), they're not beholden to that ESTIMATED release date. Considering that, AFAIK, there is no hard release date explicitly stated in the ToS you agreed to on the RSI website, all of your arguments about the release date or how long it's taking are now irrelevant.
I suppose on to the next thing you guys like to cherry pick.
Noticed, yes. Should it be discussed, no.
Could be an honest coincidence and there is no way to know without being there. Keep this subject well away.
https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/755133395278057472
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnrF0TKUEAE5Od8.jpg
Looks like he is on the mend
Good, I wish him all the best, my issues are strictly academic related.
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New house [redacted]? LMAO sorry that sounds racists NOT my intention. Bad joke Lysan Bad joke.
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I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
Yes, let's not go there, people.
Damn I must of missed that....it's supposed to be Assassins Creed in Space as well? Now it will be doubly ironic if the next Assassins Creed game is set in the future in space and still comes out (despite some "time off" according to Ubisoft) before Star Citizen.
Many of us never used kickstarter and pledged directly from the RSI website. Therefore were never bound to KS's ToS. Furthermore if you have ever downloaded any versions of the game client then you have agreed to subsequent ToS which would amend and nullify previous contracts (ToS's) signed and bind you to that particular version. That included versions of the Terms of Service which included refund clauses if project failed to meet set goal dates.
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I am a backer and a Gold Ticket holder. Per the original and ONLY TOS I signed I want the financial reporting promised in the TOS and the PLEDGE that CR wrote to the backers. If your saying in the quote above that the TOS is binding on us, it is binding on them, and to chance the terms is fine, for those backers, NOT to those that agreed to the original terms. You can't have it both ways. Make a TOS people see, agree to, then later change it to read. Ooops sorry we will not do as we said this new TOS you did not agree to but makes it so we have to deliver nothing at all, or do as we said now rules oh and we did say we will show how the meney was spent. LOL sorry not happening we changed our minds and even though you didn't agree to the new TOS, your out of luck.
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In plain language. They lied, have no intentions of showing the books as promised as their promises mean absolutely nothing they will just change all they promised and you have to live with it. They lied, deceived, and failed to deliver what they said they would. Why you believe anything they say is beyond me. They LIED. Or rather just changed the rules in mid game.
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Actually, my release date was 2014. It was still part of the agreement for those orders too.
This is exactly why you aren't neutral, because you don't even know that the scope was still less than 17 mil when I ordered and the scope wasn't the 65 mil or even higher. Instead, you want to instantly jump the gun and place blame or state things were significantly different when they weren't and yet you consistently jump in to make it seem like anyone that brings CR/RSI/CIG under the heat lamp to expose their shenanigans appear as they what they are saying holds less water than it really does. It's like the rest of the SC faithful, always changing the requirements/goal posts/criteria which, oddly enough, is CR/CIG/RSI's mantra.
The scope may have changed - it continued to change over almost 6 months of additional funding which still does not excuse the fact they can't build a solid core to keep expanding, but that does not prevent or delay the core package. Instead, the very basic "core" came out in 2015 after a year of the hangar module that was buggy as well, which that core in early 2015 was an alpha while here we are over a year later with still an alpha and still a buggy piece of mess that has zero improvement while adding in other buggy components that also don't work properly.
Scope matters not when the core is a piece of feline/canine mess because changing scope does not make it suddenly more difficult to iron out the very core features/components/programming/etc.
Note how the tune changes - I am no longer a backer or donor or "investor" instead I ordered so things are different and etc... which makes a significant portion of the SC "special snowflakes" none of the aforementioned labels because they are in the same "order" boat as I am. So that nullifies that whole "but you donated/funded/backed/"invested." That is the sickening part, the constant deceit, deflection and obfuscation.
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Well, they are just not trustworthy plain and simple.
Yeah it's from 10ftc episode 75. The one where he gets annoyed at people asking about star marine. After that he talks about the upcoming stealth mechanics, like going through vents and putting up a holoduke (guess he finally played duke nukem 3D). He then adds, that they want cover mechanics in 2.2. (guess they missed it) and later versions will have vaulting and sliding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGreb21dKdg jump to 18:30 for the whole star marine thing
When was that set goal date?
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Then sue them if you feel they defrauded you. To all and not just you, bellyaching about an unfair policy change doesn't change anything.
Star citizen's kickstarter estimated the delivery to arrive in november 2014, the date is still there on all packages on the original kickstarter. ToS 1.1 had this clause
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