UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Kelen Savitch

Kelen Savitch
I've just had a thought regarding the pointing of the UP that lined up a few things that have been running around my head. Here's my current tin-foil tuppence worth.

In order to find a UP in the wild, perhaps we just need to target Merope 5c from wherever we are and fly towards it and see if an Anomaly USS appears? Not necessarily from within Merope itself (although it's certainly worth testing), but from systems within the shell?

I'm thinking along the lines of the UA being the mechanism that was used to find "alien" technology and stumbled across us. The shell hasn't expanded as the UA has found what it was looking for, it know's we're aware of its presence, knows we're interested, and we've moved on to phase two of First Contact.

The UP is pointing us to Merope 5c as that is where this contact will take place. We've only ever had UPs from convoys so when dropped, they only last 6 minutes. Remember that patch note referring to the audio for the probe being extended past 6 minutes? That is the lock we're missing, there's additional audio in the wild UA that we have not yet heard and the part we have is the key to decoding that.

Therefore, logically, finding a wild UP is more likely if we follow the direction in which they point, no?

If I can stop getting disconnected by that damned adjudication server, FD, I'll be testing this theory tonight.
 
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bitstorm

bitstorm
Han_Zen said:
I have a feeling that this is part of the reason we have not found any free floaters. I doubt they are strong signal sources, like the UA. They don't do the long range transmission.
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Interesting.

So the UP lights do not light up during the burst? (I am going to get footage anyway)

And you suspect (assuming this is the case) that these lights are on during a long range transmission?

Again if this is the case this would imply the UP is intendend for short range use, which ties in with them pointing to 5c instead of the star?
 

Ericlas

Ericlas
bitstorm said:
Sorry give what a shot?
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When you do your experiments and the UP wails and lights up, to just spare a few seconds and note the lighting duration.
It was 23 seconds in space (seems pre patch since during Educating Ed it is 20 secs) and 12 seconds on surfaces.
It doesn't slow your own research down by much but could help to find a pattern, if there is any.
I'd appreciate that very much.

o7

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bitstorm said:
Interesting.

So the UP lights do not light up during the burst? (I am going to get footage anyway)

And you suspect (assuming this is the case) that these lights are on during a long range transmission?

Again if this is the case this would imply the UP is intendend for short range use, which ties in with them pointing to 5c instead of the star?
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During my lighting research I was looking at many EMP bursts and haven't seen lighting during it once.

edit: by far the best video of EMP so far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdn2cRkoQMI
 
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bitstorm

bitstorm
Ericlas said:
When you do your experiments and the UP wails and lights up, to just spare a few seconds and note the lighting duration.
It was 23 seconds in space (seems pre patch since during Educating Ed it is 20 secs) and 12 seconds on surfaces.
It doesn't slow your own research down by much but could help to find a pattern, if there is any.
I'd appreciate that very much.

o7

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During my lighting research I was looking at many EMP bursts and haven't seen lighting during it once.
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Ah right.

ALso I did not know the behaviour is diffent on planet vs off, I have not seen this documented anywhere.
 

bitstorm

bitstorm
Ericlas said:
That's why I quoted myself up there. You might give it a read ;)

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...nonn/page392?p=4315234&viewfull=1#post4315234
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Oh that's an interesting post. I will read.

Also on that video you edited into your post, no it looks like no head morse. :(

I guess no harm in redoing though, it is possible (though unlikely) something has changed since 19 July.

edit: hang on, that UP is lighting up? Am I mistaken? They do light up?

Do they only light when in the proximity of Merope 5c or something? But Ross 47?

I'm confused.

*turns ship round*
 
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Ericlas

Ericlas
bitstorm said:
Oh that's an interesting post. I will read.

Also on that video you edited into your post, no it looks like no head morse. :(

I guess no harm in redoing though, it is possible (though unlikely) something has changed since 19 July.

edit: hang on, that UP is lighting up? Am I mistaken? They do light up?

Do they only light when in the proximity of Merope 5c or something?

*turns ship round*
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The UP lights up when whailing/howling.
It seems they do that only when in the vincinity of a planet. (no matter of containing life or being landable)
But the lighting duration is different on planet or in space. (no change in howling length as I can tell)
And during Educating Ed the lighting in space was 3 secs shorter. (maybe due to the patch reducing the UP transmission to overall 6 mins?)

So more testing needs to be done:
- is the ighting duration on surface now shorter as well (so patch related)
- does the lighting duration in space change at all? (indicating location)
- if not...why does it light up longer in space than on surface? (as one CMDR already mentioned...indicating a long range transmission?), what would imply there is a transmission apart from the EMP picture that we missed


edit: wife will hit me with something that my tinfoil will offer no protection against if i do not stop now...good luck bitstorm! o7
 
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bitstorm

bitstorm
I think these are important questions.

No doubt it's all rehash but this is new to me and I did not see it documented.

I will try some experiments.
 

Kelen Savitch

Kelen Savitch
bitstorm said:
Oh that's an interesting post. I will read.

Also on that video you edited into your post, no it looks like no head morse. :(

I guess no harm in redoing though, it is possible (though unlikely) something has changed since 19 July.

edit: hang on, that UP is lighting up? Am I mistaken? They do light up?

Do they only light when in the proximity of Merope 5c or something? But Ross 47?

I'm confused.

*turns ship round*
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I knew I'd seen a reasonably good decode/view (quoted below) of the EMP effect on the UP and the morse both audibly and visually from four angles. Did you see this?

CMDR Boozeman said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30_p5Kzy75U&feature=youtu.be

This video. I got EVDISEER for UP blinking as morse. That last part "seer" is very clear ... . . .-.
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SocraticMammal

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RandolfK said:
one thing I noticed on the last as well as on the current tour corewards is, the farer U get from the bubble, the more often USS0 with wrecked sip and small or large exploration data canister spawn. Didn´t focus on, but might well be that it starts around distance 5000LY....

In that context m noob question - If one scoops data cannister, only sellable on the black-market or cjnce to read the data :) ?
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I've seen this too. I suspect somewhere in game code is values that describe what types of USSs spawn in a system based on it's makeup. Systems far in the wilderness USSs more rare in general and mostly exploration type wrecks.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
bitstorm said:
Interesting.

So the UP lights do not light up during the burst? (I am going to get footage anyway)

And you suspect (assuming this is the case) that these lights are on during a long range transmission?

Again if this is the case this would imply the UP is intendend for short range use, which ties in with them pointing to 5c instead of the star?
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I'm suspecting that the lights are linked to the long range transmission we know the UA have.

As the lights are on the head as well as on the spine, I guess the UP also have this capability. We have just not seen it activated.

The UP does no scan ships. So it's probably not interested in cargo.

It activates the howl near planets. I think that is a key.

If I had an UP, I would start by dropping it next to planets in Wyrd (the ELW and Dwellers place). If that didn't work, I would try an Onionhead planet.

These are just my ideas but planets with something special on them, is my best guess.

Someone could be looking for a Mycoid antidote. ;-)

By the way, great work on the testing. You are as fast as commander Branch was with the UA. :)
 

rizal72

rizal72
Michael Brookes said:
That's true as far as it goes, although why are they doing that is an interesting question.

Michael
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Michael Brookes said:
You've decoded part of it, but not everything it contains.

Michael
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Michael Brookes said:
Or purpose drives function.

Michael
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Still on holidays but reading every post.

1) We've decoded part of it because we're still missing to decode the UP transmission: the purrs, whose key is the drawing.
2) Then we're missing all the left part from the sphere: the one I've translated into a tune (see FP). Perhaps it's not a tune but it means something we do not understand.
3) a free floater will give us something more for sure.
 
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Richardissimo

R
Scottworld said:
https://youtu.be/9FHpHEAT-bg?t=128

So ... just a suggestion ?.. it looks like there are some "particles" around the probe in this video ..thy seem in a static position.
Wondering if these are like a mini map ... correlating to stars somewhere on the Galaxy map. (Might have to grab a few screen shots and see if anything looks similar)
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Can I respectfully suggest that your time would be better spent doing *anything* other than trying to find correlation between the particles and any subset of the 400billion star systems in 3 dimensional space considering the variables of rotation and scale.
 

LordZoltan

LordZoltan
rizal72 said:
Still on holidays but reading every post.

1) We've decoded part of it because we're still missing to decode the UP transmission: the purrs, whose key is the drawing.
2) Then we're missing all the left part from the sphere: the one I've translated into a tune (see FP). Perhaps it's not a tune but it means something we do not understand.
3) a free floater will give us something more for sure.
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Really not convinced about 1) Riz - to me they are the same as the UA purrs and there's not enough structure in there to represent anything. Seems to me MBs comment was suggesting we haven't figured out all the sonic image contains yet; not that there's more in the UPs ambient audio.

I hope I'm proved wrong - and no doubt there are many people who will continue to analyse the purrs to see what they can get out of them; but with no structure I see it more like the equivalent of numerology than anything concrete.
 

simulacrae

simulacrae
Allant Doran said:
No worries and my bad. I'm just on edge haha :D :p
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Sorry if I was being obtuse ( I blame Monday morning ) I was thinking that due to the similar orientation to the UA s the one place we know where the UPs point to more than just merope is between it and the UA shell. Which is why I like looking there. But the apparent lack of communication between the UA and UP is frustrating :)
 

bitstorm

bitstorm
Well I have a video of the head flash during the burst but I'm finding it a right pain to translate.

I can do frame by frame but determining if it's on or off is almost guesswork at some points, I thin because underneath the flashes the thing still pulses, so sometimes you aren't sure if it's on or off. :(
 

Colonel Kenney

Colonel Kenney
aguettinger said:
After todays comments from MB it is clear that we are missing a part of the message.

Maybe the message contains more than just the picture in the audio file when honked at. Maybe a part of the message is not in 'audio' but in something else?
Or maybe there is another way to trigger a response from the UP we didn't discover yet?
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Yeah the blinking lights... someone decoded it into morse I did as well and I had a few clues but I abandoned the idea.

Anyone care to try and post the dots/dashes again?
 
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