UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Don't. :)
You cannot imagine how many times I felt like that in this thread.
So many ultra-smart people around!

I suspect at Nasa they are all playing ED, and a couple of them are becoming mad about this puzzle ;)

Can confirm the second part.

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I know at least one guy from JPL does :)

Michael

Pffft. JPL. Buncha show offs. Goddard Space Flight Center is where the real work gets done. (Kidding mostly, those JPL guys do get a lot of the glory though.)
 
Holy hell, this threads are growing fast!

Just some mindstorm here, and maybe someone will see some clue.

Things that are (pretty) sure:

1) The UA and UP are of the same origin. They clearly look the same (half of them - the sphere - is a 1:1 copy with different color).
2) Whether the barnacles are of the same source is unknown, because they look different to the UA and UP.
3) The names have not been chosen randomly: an artifact is something made by someone, but the purpose is at first not clear. The purpose of a probe is very clear: it's not to give information, but to gather or extract information from an ontherwise unreachable place.
4) The UAs can only be found in a perimeter of 100 - 150 ly around Merope / the Pleiades
5) UPs have only been found at this point in convoys within human territorry
6) all three, the UP, UA and barnacle have that flickering around them.
7) the artifact points to Merope, the probe points specifically to Merope 5C
8) the artifact communicates in morse code
9) the probe communicates in a EM signal, translated into sound by the ship, which translates into a specturm image.

Questions:
1) What is the real and distinct purpose of the artifact and the probe?
2) Why does especially the probe give us information, because that's not the purpose of a probe?!
3) Where do convoys take the UPs from? Where do they bring them (orbital test site within the bubble?)
4) what does the flickering aura mean?

Hypothesis:
1) The gathering of the UAs in a bubble around Merope and the UAs pointing to Merope 5c tell us
a) something is happening here. This planet is important.
b) this is the center (of the map / instructions). Go from here.

2) If it's instructions to go somewhere, e.g. to the next waypoint... we most probably need to search within the perimeter of the UAs. So within 100 to 150 lys.
What landmarks lie within that parameter?
Are we able to extract a general direction from the image?

I first thought from one of the drawings that it points to Polaris, but that is far outside of the perimeter. Maybe Polaris is used as orientation to align the map / instructions?
 
As a pedantic retired scientist, I would point out that you can never prove a theory is right! Truth has nothing to do with science, truth is for religion and philosophy. A good theory is just useful (because it answers all the current evidence and supports useful prediction) until it becomes evident from experiment that it is wrong. MB's comment means exactly what it says- that theory is testable, but that does not mean that it is correct
I 'd just like to point out that having been given an apple, I theorised that if I had another one I would have two apples. So I asked my wife for an apple. when she gave it to me I was able to conclusively show that my theory was dead-on. I now had two apples.
TL;DR : Never say never.....
 
I like it. Simple.

And I liked your reply about the reason for the first quadrant to be at bottom right: the need to have a 138° angle.
And I liked all the four instructions you've proposed. The two beams of light the most :)
I was starting to do a similar experiment before losing the UP: I was hovering M5c with the UP in hold, honking all around it.
Problem is that the planet is huge, and hovering all of it and honking could be a pain, and too random.

There should be some more detailed place to search IMHO. But who knows?
There are more glyphs to be decoded!
 
Tip off in Ceti Sector RD-T B3-2. Crashed Anaconda right at the summit of a huge mountain:

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I tjink the barnys are related to the ua/up for the fireflys come off of all 3 and the glowing texture noises etc kind if simular. Tbh i think the ua/up creators use the barnys for their tech
 
I am 100 % sure we dont need new probes. We have everything it was supposed to deliver. We need the image decoded.

I'm rather hoping that discovering where the free floating UPs can be found might offer further context or insight into the message itself, possibly even being part of the "key".
 
Ok, not sure if this has been considered (probably has), but players tend to look at these things from the perspective of "oh, this is for me!"

But as we know, the UA isn't for us, its for the aliens, gathering intel.

Why are people looking at this from the perspective of a key for us... and if so, why do people think its a good idea to decrypt it!

Maybe its something for the aliens. So stop reading the image from a human centric point of view. Look at it from the alien point of view. Its perhaps not pointing to somewhere, but from somewhere.

Just throwing this out there, because i'm too dumb to actually solve this myself.

We don't actually know that. It's certainly one way to interpret what we know, but not the only way. And actually a lot of the circumstances make more sense if this is meant for us/made by us (humans).
 
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Yes. Forced the Anaconda to a crash landing, I suppose. Still checking the site.

EDIT: Found one of these caine-massey cargo racks...

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The arrangement of the crash site is wonderful, congrats to the art department:

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View from orbit:

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I'm wondering, as I'm sure others have, if the thing we're missing isn't simply the correct ship. The UAs scan for a certain type of ship, the UPs are sent out to find the ship. When it's scanned by that ship, the message will be complete.

Like the mystery Diamondback Explorer scanning the Obsidian orbital I mentioned a little while back :p
 
Yes, location names are very easy to get away with (as the dev) since they are already broadcast by nav beacons. The ship schematics are another story though because it relies on the latin alphabet sequence to be meaningful drawings.

(Being a bit pedantic here, but..) they don't really need to transcode the message through the latin alphabet. They could simply have a 2D graph with Morse co-ordinates. They might not even know if the Morse symbols represent letters or numbers! For the schematics to work they just need to be familiar with a cartesian-like coordinate system and know the relative sequencing of the Morse symbols. So first (or last) is .- then -... then -.-. etc.

And if they've ever seen even a small handful of messages which includes all the known morse symbols exactly once, and in the same order; they could make a reasonably safe guess that's our alphabet (or number system!) which provides the sequencing they need.
 
I've looked at the first post and am slightly confused. So I'll ask for the purpose of clarity and the avoidance of doubt, the Unknown Probes which have been discovered so far, are they always in the same type of USS? I know we have limited data on this so far. I'm just wondering where to focus my efforts in searching Ross 47 (where I'm just now)

Xposting this from over on Xbox discussions:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/276343-Contact-Theory




Originally posted by MistrrRAGER:

Hey all,
I have a theory about the recent events surrounding the unknown probes audio spectrograph.
I watched the movie "Contact" after learning it was written by Carl Sagan and EXACTLY the same thing happens. An audio transmission received by scientists turns out to be a picture and blueprints.
SPOILERS
For much of the movie they have trouble deciphering the picture and they realise they are looking at the picture wrong.
They make the 2d picture into a 3d cube and its the key to reading the blueprints.
Could we be looking at the audio spectrograph wrong?

Just to be pedantic I must point out that it's a radio signal they receive. Audio does not travel well through interstellar space.
 
I 'd just like to point out that having been given an apple, I theorised that if I had another one I would have two apples. So I asked my wife for an apple. when she gave it to me I was able to conclusively show that my theory was dead-on. I now had two apples.
TL;DR : Never say never.....

You say 'two apples'.

I say: The beginnings of a small strüdel.

Edit - to be a pedant, you didn't have a theory, you made a prediction.

Theories and proofs, on the other hand, are only tested by attempting to disprove them - and failing to do so. Which, I believe, is what Jorki was getting at.

...

Still: small strüdel.
 
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