Sounds like the Cargo Scanner needs a revise then, doesn't it?
I combat logged a duck last night.
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Sounds like the Cargo Scanner needs a revise then, doesn't it?
So other than you being bitten in the tush by your own words and being butthurt about it, how is a KoS list not "chasing down a specific individual for the purpose of causing grief". Because that's the god damn definition of a KoS list.
For someone who says he's so logical, you're really bad at this.
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Foul language in the video most likely if that's the reason. I know the name for what women have and men don't came up at the very least, not to mention the archer quotes which I'm pretty sure had language that would get bleeped by the filter probably.
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Woke up and oh dear here comes a triggered poster...
Hah... look at this:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...update-Reiteration-of-player-harassment-rules
KoS list is not a "griefing list," it can be used as a griefing list, however.
Unless you are trying to tell me players targeting me for being a pirate is griefing me .-.
Or that player group rivalry with one another are griefing each other (oh god that puts a smile on my face).
Or god forbid that some PP player that kept popping up in the system one's trying to protect from undermining.
I said this before and will say this again, I'm not using KoS lists for the purpose of causing grief. However, it is possible that people use KoS lists to harass players for the sole purpose of being disruptive.
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To further clarify, this is why "griefing" in ED is close to impossible, thanks to the mode system and instancing.
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Yeah but there is a content warning at the start of the video and FD themselves have shared a number of videos containing profanity in their weekly newsletters. The content filters apply to what is posted here.
Never said it was fair, but that's what I'm guessing "masking to get past the filters" is applying to.
Shouldn't have nuked the thread either way.
The more I come to this forum the more I think that a player firing on another without his hard points deployed should be instadeath and done with it.
Non-Consensual PVP seems to be cool for the under 15s and those who are new to the series, yet hated by the rest of the player base.
BW.
Non-Consensual PVP seems to be cool for the under 15s and those who are new to the series, yet hated by the rest of the player base.
BW.
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Let me get things straight if I am in combat with another player and his ship just vanishes he has almost certainly combat logged? (Must allow for the unlikely event that his computer, router, internet provider, etc were not working perfectly.)
The only people who could possibly know for sure though are himself and FD (probably)?
Now keeping in mind that according to prior posters everyone playing Elite has a 90% reliable connection (including matching servers).
Apologies any incoherence in the above is due to an excess of blood in the alcohol stream.
Let me get things straight if I am in combat with another player and his ship just vanishes he has almost certainly combat logged? (Must allow for the unlikely event that his computer, router, internet provider, etc were not working perfectly.)
The only people who could possibly know for sure though are himself and FD (probably)?
Now keeping in mind that according to prior posters everyone playing Elite has a 90% reliable connection (including matching servers).
Why did the commander of the Vulture combat log when he was beating my Viper Mk4 with ease?
Apologies any incoherence in the above is due to an excess of blood in the alcohol stream.
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If FD's attempted to give player control over what kind of interaction they wish to partake in in Open mode (mostly aimed at avoiding random player killers), then they failed miserably.
Pirates and bounty hunters get hit with an un-counterable 15 second charge up for an invincibility drive and random player killers that go after soft targets can easily wipe the target out under 15 seconds.
It's asinine if menu log was meant to deter random player killers.
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That's when you choose not to report the player since context doesn't make sense.
Gluttony,
I'm with you, mate. I think FD have tried to make Piracy a go, and I've no issue with that as that's what the old series was based around. But it hasn't worked, has it?
With every update, PVPers have more meta-game to play and the general 'doodlers' (I'm in that group) simply become more and more the victims.
PVP and non-PVP Open modes are the way forward I reckon, with non-PVP combat kills only counting half to the Pilot's Fed rating (or some similar penalty).
BW.
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I absolutely love PVP but my game drops out so regularly I've been forced to stop playing in open specifically to avoid being labeled a combat logger.
Hmm... it would seem that the repetitive sniping merry-go-round of déjà vu is still welcome in this thread, along with oblique references to the moderation team and their activities, whereas my attempt to lighten the mood with a lovely picture of a duck has disappeared into the Memory Hole along with the couple of Reputation points it managed to garner before the axe fell. All that remains is Artemis Zodiac's now rather random looking reference, a non sequitur in memory of the recently reduckted.
Seriously, lads and lasses, leaving a stub of the post might have been a nice gesture. Or perhaps informing me of which unwritten rule warranted its removal. No need to go full Ministry Of Truth on it. Still, no place for levity in here I guess, not when there's a good old-fashioned PvP/PvE forum battle to be dragged out for another few pages.
(You can hammer this post for Rule 12 if you want, but be prepared to do the same for half of the posts above it.)
Seriously, lads and lasses, leaving a stub of the post might have been a nice gesture. Or perhaps informing me of which unwritten rule warranted its removal. No need to go full Ministry Of Truth on it. Still, no place for levity in here I guess, not when there's a good old-fashioned PvP/PvE forum battle to be dragged out for another few pages.
(You can hammer this post for Rule 12 if you want, but be prepared to do the same for half of the posts above it.)
Combat logging, a minor inconvenience yet the community screams and shames people about it for 2 mins wasted.
Blowing someone up at Jaques and costing them millions and 2 weeks of precious game time, travelling there, is viable pvp.
2 whole weeks of looking at witch space are you kidding me? That's viable pvp? Wasting game time of that magnitude for that CMDR should be met with severe consequences.
lol this community
Blowing someone up at Jaques and costing them millions and 2 weeks of precious game time, travelling there, is viable pvp.
2 whole weeks of looking at witch space are you kidding me? That's viable pvp? Wasting game time of that magnitude for that CMDR should be met with severe consequences.
lol this community
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I don't agree with combat logging in the slightest. If you can't be a man and accept that you're in Open, and therefore subject to being blown up by another player from time to time.. you should seriously consider moving to a private group, or solo as you're negatively impacting another players experience of the game when you do it. They willingly play in Open, as do you and both sides accept the consequences thereof.
That said, however, I don't understand the hyperbole and mole-hill/mountain surrounding it. If I were to play in Open and someone combat logged me, I'd simply consider them a coward, report them and then get on with my life. It's really not a big deal.
Btw, rocking up at Jacques and getting blown up by a CMDR is not "viable PvP" ( if by viable you mean like the expected behaviour in a PvP setting ) in my view but it is accepted and allowed whilst in Open and is simply one of the consequences those in Open must take and accept. In Open you don't get to decide if you feel like engaging in PvP or not. It's not up to you and it never will be. That's the whole point of open PvP, player vs player - whether you like it or not.
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The fact that these trolls are few in number in reality means the problem is low profile, but none-the-less I suspect many of us have witnessed the problem? Idiots destroying CMDRs near platforms or Engineer bases simply because they get a kick out of causing grief to other players. Wings of them at CGs simply pulling any/all out of SC and then destroying the CMDRs ASAP.
And I know people get precious about the notion of CMDRs combat logging, but, should these individuals be rewarded for their toxic antics by their victims happily letting themselves be destroyed? Personally, I'm more than happy to instead see these trolls get frustrated when victims disappear or "stop taking damaged". I see no benefit to the game in rewarding these trolls with another fix by assuming they've distressed another player. Better instead they repeatedly get frustrated, and ideally give up...
IMHO the game is broken in this area at the moment, and as I've said before, needs a number of areas improved to make OPEN what it could and should be. Then, and only then, I'm all up for penalising combat logging.
And I know people get precious about the notion of CMDRs combat logging, but, should these individuals be rewarded for their toxic antics by their victims happily letting themselves be destroyed? Personally, I'm more than happy to instead see these trolls get frustrated when victims disappear or "stop taking damaged". I see no benefit to the game in rewarding these trolls with another fix by assuming they've distressed another player. Better instead they repeatedly get frustrated, and ideally give up...
IMHO the game is broken in this area at the moment, and as I've said before, needs a number of areas improved to make OPEN what it could and should be. Then, and only then, I'm all up for penalising combat logging.
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If you were to look down at the plane of the solar system from its 'north pole' you would see the planets orbiting the Sun counter clockwise, and rotating on their axis counterclockwise. Except for Venus. Venus would be rotating clockwise as it orbited the Sun counterclockwise. Venus is not alone. The axis of Uranus is inclined so far towards the plane of the solar system that it almost rolls on its side as it orbits the Sun.
Someone very clever, with lots of experience in space game development should come up with a mechanism that makes piracy viable while not giving pillocks complete control.
If only we knew someone like that.
Meanwhile somewhere in a garbage bin: "Quack".
If only we knew someone like that.
Meanwhile somewhere in a garbage bin: "Quack".
Indeed. It doesn't help either that folks are getting away with openly admitting they are doing it and encourging others to do it as well, all on the official forums.
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You know... When a duck quacks in a garbage bin... There is no echo!
Anatidaephobia: The fear that somewhere, somehow, a duck is watching you.