So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

ActualSpacePimp

ActualSpacePimp
Jorki Rasalas said:
Ah, definitely a scientist who likes measurements! Welcome to the thread, can't rep you again but good approach to measure the angles on the alien wreck!

I don't have a permit for Shinrahta Dezra either, & I'm busy getting engineer upgrades before the aliens start to interdict me (the npc pirates are annoying enough without any additional exasperation!), but if nobody else has done so when I get back from Maia I'll recheck the array in Lutyens xx-xxx.

The only way I know to check pointing direction is to select a system in the Galmap then go back to game & see if that fits with the antenna direction, then iterate as required with a few different systems; not very accurate cos of the antenna size (easier with a UA!), but may be possible to check the visual alignment using the edge of the antenna.

I suspect the antenna is monitoring (or even transmitting to if you want to really get into conspiracy theories!) the alien sector & if there is a second antenna then it would be relaying the information on to a monitoring/decoding HQ, so it might help to understand the storyline better if we could determine where that HQ is located. I doubt if the two antennae together would have a common alignment ( but worth checking).
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If it was transmitting or listening, couldn't you position yourself on the receiving end and target it and see if it makes any super secret coded noise?
 

[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Zeeman said:
I think I am not too far from there. May do the detour thing...

On a side note - has anyone previously considered 7 veils = 7 Nebula? Eafots is 2 (H&S) bubble Nebula, a couple of NGC's, Cave Nebula... Perhaps they all hold part of the secret?

Just thinking out loud...

Z...
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My nebula collection contains:

California
Cave
Heart
Jellyfish
Pleiades
Running Man
Soul
plus 3 NGCs that I can't remember off hand.
Edit: 7822 and the two on the 'north' border of the Rift.

If the 7 veils does relate to nebulae then it's more specific than 'any seven'.
 
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hiciacit

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Thatchinho said:
Nice punning! Repped!

The RR line was based on Genar-Hofoen's observation that there were two arrays, one pointed at the Col 70 sector and the other pointed in the opposite direction, which suggests Neumann base is either also looking at something in the opposite direction or acting is a relay/signal booster. So it was a case of "presuming that the first is pointing at Col 70 Sector FY-N c21-3, can we now work out what the other is pointing at, and is it anything interesting/significant?", then seeing what I could do along that avenue.

I don't have the facilities to do a visual line on the Gal map and see if it goes through any nebula or interesting regions, but the bits I could do was work out which systems were approximately on the line, and also check intersections with any other lines to see if it threw up anything interesting. And the only other line I know of is the RR line, and there do seem to be some things going round suggest its all connected (from something said by Salome if I remember correctly)! (Plus I was replying to a post on the FR thread - obviously this might actually be better shifted over to one of the threads on the UPs etc. but I thought I'd put it here to start with)

I must admit, I was wondering if the intersection point would be in a Nebula or something like that. At least LP744-46 would be easy to reach and either eliminate or confirm as being of interest.

Other potential avenues of exploration:

- Does the second array actually point in the opposite direction of Col 70 Sector FY-N c21-3 or is it pointing at a different angle? (The system Neumann Camp is in (Shinrarta Dezhra, to save anyone having to look it up!) is permit locked so I can't check myself.)

- Are other arrays like the one you've mentioned also pointing in the direction of Col 70 Sector FY-N c21-3, and do they also have second arrays pointing somewhere else, and if so, where.
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I looked into this a bit after Genar-Hofoen posted his thoughts. Just to quote the relevant posts I made at the time:

hiciacit said:
I was thinking something similar. There's also two of them, they point in different directions, and they carry a number (AR-9). If there's anything to that, rather than pointing to the Col70 sector, maybe they're part of a chain of relay stations that we can follow across systems to their origin/destination?
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hiciacit said:
I hadn't seen the logo anywhere else, but you could very well be right.

I went to check where the antennas point to yesterday. They're pointing ~40deg upwards, one of them aimed a little under the planet that their moon orbits. The moon is tidally locked too, so this shouldn't change if the antennas don't move (I would be surprised if they did). If they do move and stay aimed at a fixed point in the distance, then one of them is pointing at the Col70 sector roughly above Barnard's loop as Genar-Hofoen already pointed out, but also exactly at 1 independent system ~50kLy away (can't remember the name now). Went to check there yesterday to see if I could find a similar 'antenna relay' system (like AR-8 or AR-10 :p). Nothing much to find and considering that the similar structure on Meliae carries the same number decals (AR-9) I'm not going to follow up on that.
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The main thing to figure out is whether the antennas point to a fixed direction (and thus should be animated depending on the movements of their moon-planet) or whether they are simply static assets and thus probably not pointing anywhere meaningful. I haven't checked back after making those posts to see if there are any indications for either (would also depend on the orbital speeds of the planet naturally).

Edit: between the two posts quoted above (both from this thread), there are a few other posts of mine where I go check out a similar structure on Meliae, in case anyone is interested and doesn't have a permit for Shinrarta.
 
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Zeeman

Zeeman
DrewCarnegie said:
My nebula collection contains:

California
Cave
Heart
Jellyfish
Pleiades
Running Man
Soul
plus 3 NGCs that I can't remember off hand.
Edit: 7822 and the two on the 'north' border of the Rift.

If the 7 veils does relate to nebulae then it's more specific than 'any seven'.
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Yeah, it'd clearly have to be a specific seven. I'd be H&S and Pleiades are 3. I just wonder if an intersecting point of the seven would be the place to look.

Anyways, onwards to the rim.

Z...
 

Matzov

Matzov
I'm not an expert, so take this with a grain until an expert confirms (or more likely tells me this is nonsense) but I believe - strictly speaking - Pleiades is an open cluster, not a nebula. This may or may not make a difference if you want to pursue the whole 7 nebulae theory.
 

[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Matzov said:
I'm not an expert, so take this with a grain until an expert confirms (or more likely tells me this is nonsense) but I believe - strictly speaking - Pleiades is an open cluster, not a nebula. This may or may not make a difference if you want to pursue the whole 7 nebulae theory.
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Not a nebula? There's a goddam big blue cloud!

I did read somewhere that it's also referred to as the 'Maia Nebula', since that's the black hole origin.
 

clavain

clavain
Could this have been why Kahina went to Mars back in the day? (beta spoiler)

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clavain

clavain
Han_Zen said:
Nice find. This is the best description of the relic so far.
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Anyone gone to Prism or Tionisla yet? I was in Tionisla last night but did not see much. Likely heading to a few other places (Peregrina, Soontil, etc) to see if there is anything similar around.
 

[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
clavain said:
Anyone gone to Prism or Tionisla yet? I was in Tionisla last night but did not see much. Likely heading to a few other places (Peregrina, Soontil, etc) to see if there is anything similar around.
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If we're putting in requests:

Upsilon Phoenicis has a tourist spot - can somebody screenshot it please?
 

evaldo10

evaldo10
Im heading back out to the rift soon.

Ive decided that I'm going to look around the edges of systems space around the edge of Eafots. Away from the direction of Sol.

Im going to look for generation ship wreckage or even an intact empty ship thats just been drifting.

I still believe the Imps have taken passengers from a gen ship and taken them off it.

If what Drew said about making it easier after the update then this may mean better scanning of deep space away from celestial bodies.

Obviously an extra clue wouldnt go amiss.... Drew... lol
 
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IliteratSqirel

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hiciacit said:
I looked into this a bit after Genar-Hofoen posted his thoughts. Just to quote the relevant posts I made at the time:





The main thing to figure out is whether the antennas point to a fixed direction (and thus should be animated depending on the movements of their moon-planet) or whether they are simply static assets and thus probably not pointing anywhere meaningful. I haven't checked back after making those posts to see if there are any indications for either (would also depend on the orbital speeds of the planet naturally).

Edit: between the two posts quoted above (both from this thread), there are a few other posts of mine where I go check out a similar structure on Meliae, in case anyone is interested and doesn't have a permit for Shinrarta.
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Thanks for digging this back out - I was intrigued by the findings at the time.

Just for the hell of it, I decided to go to Meliae today. Looked at one of the local newspapers, and it said something interesting about conflict around "Herreshoff Laboratory". Like 'do not go there unless you absolutely must'. So that was a must, then.

There was no real exclusion zone there, just some kind of scientific site (very small) on a tiny moon. However, on the side of the buildings I found this:

http://i.imgur.com/pEH00yW.png

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Anyone seen these before? 'Contact point' - am I the only one who is tickled by that : )
 
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