The Star Citizen Thread v5
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Elite is a released game, SC is a tech demo. Some people are not impressed by tech demos.
At least i got you to admit they were impressive entire planets. WITH DETAILS.
Nothing wrong with that but i cant play with eyecandy. Until they deliver it and is playable in a not in-editor enviorment.
The point is that some people here doesnt get impressed by an entire planet with awesome detail, but later they get super hyped for a geyser. Yes, you read it right: A geyser, a simple asset. Super hyped for that.
Double standard, plain and obvious.
You mean as Starcitizen got all whoohooo when they saw being able to use a ladder and not dying from it in the gamescom demo?
Add: Or in the sense being happy about a promised asset makes it into a playable game that adds to a overall barren planet?
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You know the SC community got some jokes about Star Citizen, right? They didn't really go whoooho because they were impressed by a door. They went whooohooo because the door was working. Another example: If you ever see any photoshopped pic of Disco Lando riding a bike, that's the latest joke, from yesterday's stream. And i bet that if he appears riding a bike in the next citizencon, everyone will go whohooo for that, too.
It's like the ED community getting super hyped for a screenshot of a low-detail asset of an alien derelict ship. They were not impressed by the asset. They were hyped because lore related reasons.
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No. The geysers in ED are in Beta and will be in the production game in a couple of weeks at most. These are procedural based on tectonics and first principles in the game engine and will show on any of billions of planets.
In contrast, the SC tech demo was a manually edited level map for a single location with no game-play around it and none of it is in-game and no-one claimed it would be anytime soon.
The guy early on said clearly he wished he could say this was coming to players soon, but it was not.
So you are saying waht? Bashing ED by SC uber-fans is par for the course.
FD could wow with tech demos too. But they don't want to show stuff that is R&D much because gamers get the wrong impression and it might not be able to go into the game. In my sig I show a zero-g test animation they did 4 yrs ago of a pilot getting to the seat of a Sidewinder.
Unless they're going to be releasing the editor to players to design their own planets, the planetary editor demo was worthless filler. 3.0 isn't anywhere to be seen. As predicted it was entirely big-picture stuff and tech demos and zero game mechanics. Chris talking about how these planets (which they just seem to show over and over again to the exclusion of all else now) give them so many more opportunities for "gameplay" beyond the flying and FPS, but without any examples or suggestions of what that gameplay might be. The 3.0 professions seem to have been shunted back into 3.x point releases, so that stuff's not coming any time soon. And I am stunned that there was no S42 shown. Huge red flag.
I pity the people who paid to attend this conference, what a complete and utter waste of time. At least the Gamescom demo had some substance, staged or otherwise, but this was a joke. I would hope the funding counter would reflect that, but I expect it will be the usual story of indignant super-fans wanting to prove the doubters wrong by throwing even more money at CIG. Or at least that's what the graph will indicate.
I pity the people who paid to attend this conference, what a complete and utter waste of time. At least the Gamescom demo had some substance, staged or otherwise, but this was a joke. I would hope the funding counter would reflect that, but I expect it will be the usual story of indignant super-fans wanting to prove the doubters wrong by throwing even more money at CIG. Or at least that's what the graph will indicate.
The only bashing SC gets is when it loudly proclaims itself as the BDSSE, promises to deliver so much, yet delivers - well, what it delivers.
Buy a Polaris!
Buy a Polaris!
It is no accusation. You clearly bashed ED fans with a rather broad brush. This is contra to the forum rules. SC is being discussed in this thread. There are many SC fans that post nowhere else on FD forums than here, and come just to promote SC and bash the game and its fans, that the company paying for these forums makes.
You say there are illegal accusations on this thread. If so, you should enlighten everyone and clearly explain the specific post and the law it violates.
Nope - we are merely offering opinion and critique
Wow citizencon was bad.
So when did star citizen stop being about the ships they are selling? Why do they put so much effort into activities that don't actually involve flying a ship?
Oh almost forgot: buy next expensive ship that you will not use because we spend so much time working on a FPS level.
So when did star citizen stop being about the ships they are selling? Why do they put so much effort into activities that don't actually involve flying a ship?
Oh almost forgot: buy next expensive ship that you will not use because we spend so much time working on a FPS level.
Circular argument, non-sequiter.
"Haha, in this thread no one gets impressed by an entire planet with an awesome level of detail, but some weeks ago they got absolutely hyped for getting a "geyser" on ED.
That is laughable, extreme double standards."
I do not see anything in your post about another guy here bashing SC fans and you relating your post to that. Or did I miss something in the above direct quote?
Anyway, this is veering off-topic. The thread is to discuss SC, and in your post you clearly were not doing that.
Also, what about the illegal posts? I'm really curious about them. Someone should inform law enforcement and appropriate authorities that the internet comments are illegal.
Because they wanted to show the planetary tech and the huge map scale, stuff which some people from the game development industry claimed "can't be done"
Who in the games industry said it could not be done?
IBS does it today.
Space Engine does it.
NMS does it.
ED does it.
Limit Theory does it (but not at FPS level, yet).
Frontier did it in the 1990's.
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Cry Engine 3 could not do what they showed without funding millions of dollars of modification, if that is what you mean. It essentially is no longer Cry Engine 3 because of that, and CIG acknowledges that.
Don't bother. This community was bad enough before the SC hate came in. This is the 5th thread in the series, and they get more and more ridiculous with each one. The best approach to take is to just ignore it. Come back here when the game's launched and I guarantee you that you'll have the last laugh. What you're doing now will just get you banned. The mods have put up a special message just for this thread, but have refused to shut it down despite the never ending hate-jerk that it is.
I came here to see just how much activity this thread would receive, from people who do nothing but bash SC, right after the live stream, and I sure aint disappointed. For people who seem to despise SC, and believe that it'll never happen, they sure do spend a lot of time watching SC videos and talking about it in this little safe-haven. Funny, seeing the same people posting in this thread for over a year now. I'm sure they've written more words talking crap about SC here than I did during my time in college.
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They also wanted to show off SQ42 but it's not ready yet
Now, you would think that coding algorithms that can generate, on the fly and in real-time, realistic fully physically modelled planets with flora and fauna and meteorological and atmospheric phenomena would be a bit more difficult than getting a bunch of actors to speak some lines and jump around in front of a green-screen
An interesting thread on the Star Citizen Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/56pfe9/you_guys_are_going_to_hate_me_but_citizencon/
Quite a few comments similar to this one. A lot of unimpressed 'citizens'.
Quite a few comments similar to this one. A lot of unimpressed 'citizens'.
OK, I have a question: Since there has been a lot of column inches over the last few months about SC's procedural planets including natural-looking biomes, why was that little demo set in a completely empty desert? I would have thought that would be good opportunity to show them off...
He actually said they could not make the game. I have yet to see CIG actually make the game they claim they are making. Perhaps when they actually release something even close to what they show as actually playable you might have a point. Nope, sorry you still would not, because CIG would have to release a game that has everything they claimed. And as CIG is cutting corners and dropping things left and right that's not going to happen. But that enough with talking reality and lets get back to fiction aka SC.
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