Oh boy, I'm going to have so much fun systematically dismantling your posts and shredding you both up...In fact I've decided To take my sweet sweet time doing it.
Buckle up, peasants.
Like all things, to fully understand all aspects about the great mystery one must start at the very beginning. Shall we re-examine the OP together?
Original post is here:
Yes....breathe it in. Look at the words and attempt to understand where the poster is coming from, taking note specifically of how absolutely
NONE of the new features or improvements of 2.2 were mentioned anywhere in the
entire post.
So, No Jex. The criticism here is not the lack of content, nor is it the addition of shallow content upon shallow content. There isn't even criticism here - only complaint.
And what is the reason of this complaint? The dude bought Elite for PC 2 days before patch day, which everyone and their dog knew would nerf the Ceos/Sothis mission output and now he's so unhappy that he regrets switching to PC because how on earth is he supposed to get back to the same fortune he had accumulated on Xbox without the help of such a broken system?
Also, No Spacebaboy. This is not a double standard and I'm not telling you that you should be more like me and less like you, although interestingly, now that I think about it I reckon it would probably benefit you in the long run to do so. intriguing conclusion to draw from my post, though.
As I said above, none of the features of 2.2 were mentioned in the OP, and yet the title was all-inclusive of 2.2 being a disappointment as a whole. No, that's not an appropriate name for the thread. And you know it isn't.
Now we come to the point of "decent human behavior" and I go into this with the understanding that this may be difficult for you to follow, so I'll try to break it down for you as best I can:
- You agreeing or disagreeing with my or anyone else on points they made as a coherent argument is your absolute right, and nobody can or is trying to take that away from you.
- Similarly, nobody can force you to be correct about a given fact or idea that you may come across or have. Facts are facts, and you choosing to acknowledge them and consider them objectively is a characteristic, and is thus not present in everyone you'd like it to be present in.
- What people
can force you to do is be polite. Some people can force you to be polite by punching you in the face when you say something rude. This will forcfully teach you not to run your mouth like that again in their presence. Other people can force you to be polite through less violent means.
- It is not polite to lump up the (significant) efforts of a game developing company like Frontier and deem them as "disappointing" just because they changed (I wanted to say balanced instead of changed, but that might be subjective to me) an aspect of the game that you had relied upon in becoming a billionaire. This is selfish. This is rude. This is unacceptable and should be condemned appropriately. I am here to be said reckoning.
Let me go into a little more detail about that last bit:-
First, let me again say that I have no issues whatsoever with you or anyone else expressing their distaste for a particular component or balance change added to any patch, Ceos/Sothis in 2.2 or otherwise. What I do take issue with is when a toxic, ill-considered title becomes a breeding ground for hostile inbreds who have no notion of what the words "objective criticism" means.
You do not need to be financially well off to enjoy SLFs. The cheapest compatible ship is the Keelback which can be purchased for 3 million credits or even less if you have a discount. SLFs are not designed to be gameplay for everyone. They are designed to add further incentive to running larger ships, which needed something more to justify the extra risks involved with flying them. Also, I've personally met with people who feel that SLFs are too weak and don't want to waste their internals on outfitting them (I disagree with this, but again they are entitled to that opinion).
You do not need to be financially well off to enjoy passenger missions. Jex, I don't care if one person came out and said they were boring or if one hundred people came out and said they were boring. I find trading boring and I find exploration daunting. I will not play as a trader, and I will not play as an explorer. As you say, everyone is entitled to their opinion and I don't need to agree with you just as you don't need to agree with me. Passenger missions are not my type of gameplay, but they are gameplay nonetheless.
Let's look at that first post again and note that:-
Nothing in the OP mentioned the quality of life improvements. Which require no finance.
Nothing in the OP mentioned the addition of a new power play faction. Which requires no finance.
Nothing in the OP mentioned the significant amount of pvp balance changes that went into 2.2. Which require no added finance.
Nothing in the OP mentioned the new engineer blueprints that were added. Which require no finance.
Nothing was mentioned about the random cool stuff that were added, like the neutron star and white dwarf graphics/effects, the new hyperspace animations, or the new space structures for capital ship docks and military installments. All of which require no finance.
Nothing was mentioned about the ground breaking alien archeology discoveries and the artifacts found there. Which require no finance.
Nothing was said about the visual improvements done to the planet textures and asteroid fields. Which require no finance.
And nothing was even mentioned about the awesome addition of lore nodes! Which, you guessed it,
require no finance.
The only thing that's shallow here is the width and depth of your cerebral cortex.
What it "all boils down to" is that this kid wants credits, and now he's being forced to find an alternate means to do so. This added effort requirement has caused so many to raise their pitchforks and baby bottles in rebellion.
Go find something worthy to complain about. There's plenty, even in Elite. But be fair and give credit where credit is due.
And then there is this crap....
I don't even know what height you must have been dropped from as a baby to gain the ability to switch this up to an argument about stock exchange, Ian Bell and David Braben. I'm not even going to justify this garbage with a response.
What I will respond to is that last bit about me not knowing it was a fact that the devs poured their heart and soul into it and how it's their job that they get paid for doing. I'm going to give you the simplest of examples.
Go take a look in the 2.2 feedback archives. Search For the post times of some of these greedy, useless and stupid developers.
Heck, I'll even direct your dumb to one such instance.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...igame-fixed-in-2-2-beta?p=4575028#post4575028
Look at post 14 and note that this man posted it at 10:08 BST.
It is not my opinion, based on zero facts as you claim. This dude posted well beyond his work hours for a game that he obviously cares about for reasons greater than just being something he's paid to do. I've seen posts even later than this, and these are just forum posts. What do you know how the long hours spent in development? Do you remember when we sent out those pizzas to Frontier because of just how hard we all felt they were working?
I don't "worship" FD nor do I praise them without reason. I observe, and I comment intelligently as to what I have observed with the most objective lense I can muster - A skill set that most people posting on these forums would do well to aquire.
And you say that 2.2 is about selling more, man? Exactly what universe do you live in?
One of the biggest criticisms and actual real disappointments of/with 2.2 is that we didn't get the ship kits and paint jobs we all wanted.
Let me repeat that:
People are genuinely unhappy with 2.2, not because it had crappy features or because it launched with glitches or because it added no new content. They are genueinly disappointed because they wanted to give Frontier vast amounts of money for specific cosmetic changes to their ships and accessories, and Frontier wasn't able to deliver that with the launch of the patch, presumably because they were
focusing on the actual patch, instead stating that the paint jobs and ship kits will be coming over the next few weeks/months.
If anyone has a negative opinion about any component of Elite, be it in 2.2 or otherwise, then let them post their opinions freely, and they can be discussed however people want. But don't be a d-bag, choosing to focus on one selfish balance act and using it to say that the entire thing is a waste of effort.
/mic drop.
