I don't think anyone is saying that they aren't developing other things, and that unforeseen circumstances can't crop up. Do you know what a Red Herring is?
The point is that CR is trying to shift the blame from himself onto the backers by saying that they were impatient, and because they (we) are "impatient" the AC is v0.8 and barely functional.
I guess most backers have a short memory, because it wasn't just 6 months ago where he said how much polish he wanted the DFM to have and it would be a "couple of months". Then in Feb he said that it would release end of March, early April. Then in March he said that it would be revealed at PAX and release shortly after - possibly by the time they get back from PAX because it's not as polished as CR would like. Then at PAX they said that it would be a couple of weeks and a staggered roll out. Then at the end of April it would be 2nd or 3rd week of May. Then come the third week of May and we have a release date.
Whatever the excuses are behind the scenes, be it poor management or gross incompetency, the backers didn't do this - CIG did. So to hear CR say that it's because we were impatient is insulting and a complete misrepresentation of facts/history.
There will be an Arena Commander demonstration at Lavecon for people who didn't back SC to see the comparison.
I don't think anyone is saying that they aren't developing other things, and that unforeseen circumstances can't crop up. Do you know what a Red Herring is (your post is committing one)?
The point is that CR is trying to shift the blame from himself onto the backers by saying that they were impatient, and because they (we) are "impatient" the AC is v0.8 and barely functional.
I guess most backers have a short memory, because it wasn't just 6 months ago where he said how much polish he wanted the DFM to have and it would be a "couple of months". Then in Feb he said that it would release end of March, early April. Then in March he said that it would be revealed at PAX and release shortly after - possibly by the time they get back from PAX because it's not as polished as CR would like. Then at PAX they said that it would be a couple of weeks and a staggered roll out. Then at the end of April it would be 2nd or 3rd week of May. Then come the third week of May and we have a release date.
Whatever the excuses are behind the scenes, be it poor management or gross incompetency, doesn't matter as it's irrelevant. The backers didn't do this - CIG did. So to hear CR say that it's because we were impatient is insulting and a complete misrepresentation of facts/history.
Yes but CIG is crowdfunded by backers so the backers have a big influence on them. Everyone at CIG goes through the forums and they are taking opinions and feedback in to account.
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I think that it is purely bad management and complete inability to set and meet the deadlines. CR can do this now because he is the head of the development and there is no one on top of him to say that he is very wrong. IMO exactly the same might have occurred during the Freelancer development, however as Microsoft was the publisher and they have simply said him to stop and found another person to put in charge, who was able to deal with deadlines better.
If it's that easy to bully CIG around, what exactly do you think is going to happen to the game if the majority of backers suddenly become casual CoD 12 year olds?
What happened to CR's vision? Or is it influenced by $$$$?
Which begs the question, what exactly do you think the game is going to turn out like if people keep defending CIG no matter what and to the bitter end?
I'm starting to think that you're right in that case. Seems like Microsoft doesn't take any sh*t, and now that CR is free from any publisher (i.e. accountability) we can expect to enter into the never-ending pre-alpha phase of "perfectionism".
It looks like it will be a few years before we can start earning credits in the game, which is good for CIG since they have the cash shop ready to turn your $$ into VD store purchases for your hangar and DFM. No rush.
Sorry, I'm full of vitriol today. I can't stand being ****** on and told it's rain.
The community happened. It was an attempt to keep them sweet.This isn't directed at anyone in particular. But...
I remember a game where you had to edit a bunch of config files in order to get it playable. I'm trying to remember what it was called...Oh yeah, X Rebirth
What happened to CR being a perfectionist? What happened to releasing the DFM when it was good and ready? What happened to polishing it beyond the "typical alpha" 5 1/2 months ago?
needless to say I have some problem with controls.
I have an Aurora an I use mouse and K. The problem is that, when I make lateral move the movement it is not smooth but it is jerky.
I Have expressed my problem in another forum but they said I am an Hater and that the movement si perfectly smooth.
So I ask you: someone else had the same problem and how can be solved?
CIG used to give credits away so you could buy stuff and check it out
The reason they do that is because once you've had a trial-run of making your first purchase with free credits, you're more likely to come back as a paying customer. There's an Extra Credits episode that Andrew Sayers linked to once that explains it. Probably one of these:
Microtransactions
Doing Free to Play Wrong
I think it's wrong to give a good excuse in December and a (contradictory) bad excuse four months later.That's why i think it's wrong to give away dates
ObviouslyWhile the new Dogfight Module for Star Citizen is what most folks are talking about,
I know exactly how it works...(govny is right)The only thing you can do is spend a little more time on it to understand how it works
Sure, the next patch will make me (us) undertand how it works... or just wait for the next few patches that will hopefully improve the situation.
when I make lateral move the movement it is not smooth but it is jerky.
I Have expressed my problem in another forum but they said I am an Hater and that the movement si perfectly smooth.
Yeah that was badly done.I think it's wrong to give a good excuse in December and a (contradictory) bad excuse four months later.
Obviouslywithout a good flight/combat model, the amazing Arccorp planet is completely irrelevant.
I think the easiest way to compare the satisfaction of the players with AC would be to compare how much time every SC player plays AC compared to how much time every ED player played Alpha 1 of ED.
Of course we don't have those numbers but every time i am watching videos of AC i am getting headache. Watching ED videos though is a pleasure.