The Star Citizen Thread v5
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Without any sort of proof, they are just numbers on a graph. Take it all with a pinch of salt.
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Tbh none of these stats would add up to such a conclusion.
Even if only half that money is new customers pledging for $40-50 it would add up to roughly 1000 new players every day, which is pure fantasy I feel.
I mean... people complain about paying 15 bucks for DLC or 30 for an expansion pack, and a vast group of customers refuses to buy anything at full price.
Yet somehow a self-designated pre-alpha experience that's not nearly as well-known as it'd like us to believe (I honestly feel CIG does very little "external" marketing) would not only have pre-release sale numbers in the hundreds a day, but then presumably also give a good enough impression with its broken PTU and trashy alpha performance that these same customers end up committing for a total of $100+ in the weeks following.
Afaic there's only two logical conclusions:
1) The CIG-maintained and unverifiable funding chart is
2) There's a core group of backers that just refuses to stop spending
It's the Mafia moneylaundering obviously.
They buy an Idris with their dirty cash then later request a refund. Simples.
Be serious for once guys
If nothing is holding them to the landing pad, maybe that could explain why they often fly off in a random manner?
See, it was never a bug after all!
It's just too immersive and thus perceived as a bug.
It's faith, nothing else, just faith. [wacko]
I would say van der Waals forces, but that would require some understanding of physics, and we all know that Chris doesn't do that kind of thing.Be serious for once guys
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What does a Dutch detective know about gravity that Roberts doesn't?
(showing my age there)
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So I was actually curious how easy it would be to find Star Citizen if I'd have never heard of the game.
I tried simulating a "new potential customer", because Google and Bing will generate a "related searches bubble" set on your preference and past searches.
This is something I wanted to avoid due to my obvious search bias for Elite.
Cleared cookies and preferences, disabled adblock but enabled tracking protection, using Firefox Private Browsing.
Sent my search terms to encrypted.google.com through DuckDuckGo (search engine that doesn't use a preference bubble)
search terms used:
Space games pc
Space exploration games
Space exploration games pc
Best space game 2016
sci-fi games pc
sci-fi space games pc
I did the same for Youtube, again by sending an as-unbiased-as-possible query through DuckDuckGo (it can do direct website queries through use of flags)
The google search for "space games pc" results in Star Citizen being listed in a row of games alongside Kerbal, Elite, Eve, Homeworld and Freelancer
None of the other searches on both google or youtube ever resulted in a direct SC hit, beyond coming up with lists of currently available, in development and "best of" space games. (in which Star Citizen was frequently present, but rarely in a top-5 position)
So what does this mean?
Beyond "sphere-of-influence" marketing, such as through reddit and friend circles, it seems to me that Star Citizen really does not stand out from the crowd of other space games currently available.
For a niche genre in gaming that's not exactly the kind of position that'd make hundreds of daily sales a remotely likely prospect.
My hypothesis would therefore be that the project is by and large kept afloat by original backers, with only the tiniest trickle of new blood flowing in around publicity peak moments (E3 and Gamescom, and to less extent Citizencon).
I know this isn't a "new opinion" in any way, but sometimes I feel people overestimate the amount of recognition and resonance games like SC and Elite have with the wider gaming audience ^^
I tried simulating a "new potential customer", because Google and Bing will generate a "related searches bubble" set on your preference and past searches.
This is something I wanted to avoid due to my obvious search bias for Elite.
Cleared cookies and preferences, disabled adblock but enabled tracking protection, using Firefox Private Browsing.
Sent my search terms to encrypted.google.com through DuckDuckGo (search engine that doesn't use a preference bubble)
search terms used:
Space games pc
Space exploration games
Space exploration games pc
Best space game 2016
sci-fi games pc
sci-fi space games pc
I did the same for Youtube, again by sending an as-unbiased-as-possible query through DuckDuckGo (it can do direct website queries through use of flags)
The google search for "space games pc" results in Star Citizen being listed in a row of games alongside Kerbal, Elite, Eve, Homeworld and Freelancer
None of the other searches on both google or youtube ever resulted in a direct SC hit, beyond coming up with lists of currently available, in development and "best of" space games. (in which Star Citizen was frequently present, but rarely in a top-5 position)
So what does this mean?
Beyond "sphere-of-influence" marketing, such as through reddit and friend circles, it seems to me that Star Citizen really does not stand out from the crowd of other space games currently available.
For a niche genre in gaming that's not exactly the kind of position that'd make hundreds of daily sales a remotely likely prospect.
My hypothesis would therefore be that the project is by and large kept afloat by original backers, with only the tiniest trickle of new blood flowing in around publicity peak moments (E3 and Gamescom, and to less extent Citizencon).
I know this isn't a "new opinion" in any way, but sometimes I feel people overestimate the amount of recognition and resonance games like SC and Elite have with the wider gaming audience ^^
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Haha... They still can't make a button interaction work reliably. Though, some think they will deliver more complicated stuff in a cohesive whole? There may be a dimension where CIG is able to make Star Citizen, but it's not ours.
There really are new costumers and they really do spend in the hundreds though I expect it is not the norm. A poster on the SA forum (someone who has been a SA member for over 10 years) posted this.
Not a trolling post, they actually did do this.
I would link it but I think SA is behind a paywall so meh.
Not a trolling post, they actually did do this.
I would link it but I think SA is behind a paywall so meh.
Jenner
I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
Unlike a lot of people I didn't really have an issue with the basic flight model as far as dog fighting goes. It works. I have not tried it in 2.6 yet, though.
I did try a bit of Star Marine, and that was fun, but again.... bugs. I'm truly sick of the framerate being poor, although at least it was better in SM than it is in the PU part of the game where there's a lot more status packets flying around between all the clients.
My first SM game ended in a disconnection error. :/
I get that this is an alpha and all, and it's not the bugs I mind per-se...it's the OLD bugs that have been around since the beginning that are still here. It's the fact that CR ditched the SQ42 demo because it wasn't up to his exacting standards for quality, and yet I still cannot enter and exit my spaceship (in a game about spacehips) without it breaking the game. It's the constant framerate issues due to networking. It's the hard crashing of the client half the time you exit the game. It's me clipping through the walls of my ship.
These are not some minor bugs that the engineering team doesn't have time to fix yet. This is basic stuff. After literally years I expect more improvement.
The same magnets are holding the ship that are in those magnetic boots, perhaps?Something crossed my mind while I was watching this video.
When you walk outside to landing pads, you are held onto the landing pad by what...magnetic boots? Is that their "official" explanation ?
If so, what's holding the ships then?
Yeah, those changes were good. Also, remember how shooting off the power distributor would stop everything from recharging? Good grief, it would have been horrible if things stayed that way.
On the other hand, alpha is when you should make changes to core gameplay, so that should be fine for Star Citizen. What isn't fine is just how long they've been in (pre-)alpha, and without the very core gameplay apparently unfinished too.
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Yeah, I have heard them turning off 2.5 servers as well. Anyone know update to this?
Wow! How do you even manage to hook up a trigger to a door in such a way it's dependent on whether you look at it or not? In a MP game nonetheless!
The only thing I can think of is that the engine not only culls the door from the PVS when you look away, but it actually culls the door entity too, stopping the animation sequence in its tracks. But this must mean that doors and their animation state are 100% client side and not networked. CIG in their wisdom probably networked the door trigger, but not the door itself. That's ..I don't even... that's not how you make a multiplayer game man.
When he goes up and down the ladder I get motion sickness. This coupled with the head bob and boy the anorexics are going to love this game, especially when they just flip the switch for VR.
This shouldn't even be possible.
What.
The.
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Are.
They.
Even.
Doing!!?!
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