The Star Citizen Thread v5

[Tippis]

Amazon is filthy rich and is investing heavily in the entertainment industry so it's the perfect partner imo!

That's the problem though: they're not invested in the entertainment industry — they're invested in cloud services.

Lumberyard is a means for them to sell AWS. They have no interest in the engine beyond that. If the AWS sales don't pay off, they will kill it off instantly because it's worthless to them. They're filthy reach because they don't keep money-losers around, which means that even legacy support isn't really worth it. That effort is better spent on a new and improved way of selling the same AWS.

Put another way: Amazon is not a game engine company. Unlike a company that lives and dies by the use of their engine, they have no incentive to keep a game engine running until the bitter end — only until it dips below “saccharine sweet.”

 

[Asp Explorer]

Don't forget there has been a few off the cuff remarks from CR that there may not be a player cap with how the new tech is being designed and built.

And how much player data, in real time, can you fit into an average DSL connection of, lets be generous here, symmetric 20 megabit?

 

[Dooguk]

Not if it's done right

To explain - the network implementation itself should not care one iota what it physically (or virtually) runs on. Fibre, copper, pigeons, smoke signals, toilet flushes

Hmmm...(nods head sagely) toilet flushes you say..... yes I see. (doesn't really, backs out of discussion)

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Orlando, you understand that CIG itself said that they are just licensees and nothing else special is going on between them and Amazon? They even called upon media to specify this bit of information.

 

[Tippis]

Not if it's done right

To explain - the network implementation itself should not care one iota what it physically (or virtually) runs on. Fibre, copper, pigeons, smoke signals, toilet flushes

Hey, at least pidgeon implementation has a proper standard: https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt


…for certain values of “proper” and “standard”… oh, and “implementation”

 

[Asp Explorer]

Hmmm...(nods head sagely) toilet flushes you say..... yes I see. (doesn't really, backs out of discussion)

As long as there are at least two fundamentally discernable states - you can make a network protocol run on pretty much anything

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

As long as there are at least two fundamentally discernable states - you can make a network protocol run on pretty much anything

Like being banned and not being banned

 

[Stormprooter]

As long as there are at least two fundamentally discernable states - you can make a network protocol run on pretty much anything

Can't rep you, but yes - it's all 1's and 0's conceptually speaking.
As for toilet flushes, hmm, long flush/short flush, perhaps two colours of water flushed. Ah, got it - number ones and number twos

 

[Asp Explorer]

Can't rep you, but yes - it's all 1's and 0's conceptually speaking.
As for toilet flushes, hmm, long flush/short flush, perhaps two colours of water flushed. Ah, got it - number ones and number twos

Preamble and jumbo frames

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Just from subreddit discussion where I engaged with some of them to see what's what.

* It is ok for them to see ED as lesser game - but ridiculing CIG, Chris or SC is huge no no (might be cultural difference);
* 'ED will die when SC will be released' is also very strong with these people;
* Apparently mocking around and 'we play with friends' is seen as huge plus for SC (which might be, just observations);
* It is obvious that many of them really don't want space game, but 'everything game' where they can do everything with friends. Space is just medium;
* They are misinformed what ED is and where ED goes to. They lack information beyond Horizons first release;

So their attitude towards ED is mostly siege mentality plus lack of information - and their pure defensive mechanism kicking in for ridiculing game they have pinned their hopes on. They see it as hate and evil thing to do.

I would say those are mostly twenty somethings, and early thirties.

 

[Stormprooter]

Preamble and jumbo frames

Don't forget the handshake

 

[McGlashan]

"What used to take months, maybe years previously building an infrastructure, I can now do in days with Amazon Web services. Take that same capability and offer a gaming instance similar to a Windows ec2 instance, IE: the starengine, and both Amazon and CIG stand to become the leaders in gaming, no less the ones getting a cut from everyone using it. Don't forget there has been a few off the cuff remarks from CR that there may not be a player cap with how the new tech is being designed and built.

Give it a couple years at most for people to start building on it and this will be the gaming platform most everything is built on just like AWS web services for business cloud service.

The game industry will be dominated by the people who can provide the platform, not the content of the games. Just look at steam right now. Lots of new games but all have issues the starengine and AWS can address with ease."

I had to look up the source of that toe-curlingly idiotic quote, since, curiously, you neglected to attribute it. Surprise, surprise it was posted by some random nobody on reddit. Unlimited players? All new games' problems being solved by using "starengine", and CIG taking a cut of AWS profits? Lame.

 

[Asp Explorer]

Don't forget the handshake

Yes - wash your hands and shake them dry after a jumbo frame that could choke a donkey

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

I had to look up the source of that toe-curlingly idiotic quote, since, curiously, you neglected to attribute it. Surprise, surprise it was posted by some random nobody on reddit. Unlimited players? All new games' problems being solved by using "starengine", and CIG taking a cut of AWS profits? Lame.

LOL WHUT. That is so terrible writing it is almost Attack of the Clones territory. Total lulzbuckets territory.

Jeez and they wonder why we ridicule them. I don't want to even analyse this. CIG? Leaders in gaming? Taking cut? these guys are smoking?

 

[Stormprooter]

LOL WHUT. That is so terrible writing it is almost Attack of the Clones territory. Total lulzbuckets territory.

Jeez and they wonder why we ridicule them. I don't want to even analyse this. CIG? Leaders in gaming? Taking cut? these guys are smoking?

It would have been nice if one of these "geniuses" had told us all that CIG had switched to Lumberyard a few months back. It would have helped to explain the lack of minor iteration on 2.5 and also the reason for 2.6 taking so long.
But wait, they did not know, did they? CIG have only announced it very recently.....

 

[Henkka77]

Anyhow, im going to put some thoughts of SC as i tried the 2.6 today and i have to say, even with all the bugs and stuff, its so AWESOME!
With few friends, so much fun just to fool around and do some fun stuff. Have learned more of the game in one evening than with the last 2 years ive had the game.
Im seriously thinking of putting some money to some ship, but then again, i think i want to "earn" my ships ingame, just like in Elite so ill probably stick with my Aurora.
And for the time being, you can always steal other players ships if you want to try something different..

Cant wait for the 3.0, its going to be a mindblower..

 

[Stigbob]

Oh sorry..

I thought this thread was for talking about Star Citizen, but it seems this is here only for debating of Star Citizen and playing the old "our game is better than your game"-nonsense..

Stop whining and lead by example if you want to start a new conversation. Be warned though theory-crafting, dreams, false advertising and calling Derek Smart a poopy head have all been tried already.

 

[Maruun]

Oh sorry..

I thought this thread was for talking about Star Citizen, but it seems this is here only for debating of Star Citizen and playing the old "our game is better than your game"-nonsense..

Anyhow, im going to put some thoughts of SC as i tried the 2.6 today and i have to say, even with all the bugs and stuff, its g AWESOME!
With few friends, so much fun just to fool around and do some fun stuff. Have learned more of the game in one evening than with the last 2 years ive had the game.

Cant wait for the 3.0, its going to be a mindblower..

Great for you i still wait for my money being incorperated into a "game" after now 5years? And you dont help your case by "this is here only for debating of Star Citizen and playing the old "our game is better than your game"-nonsense.." in being taken seriously here.

 

[Stigbob]

Anyhow, im going to put some thoughts of SC as i tried the 2.6 today and i have to say, even with all the bugs and stuff, its so AWESOME!
With few friends, so much fun just to fool around and do some fun stuff. Have learned more of the game in one evening than with the last 2 years ive had the game.
Im seriously thinking of putting some money to some ship, but then again, i think i want to "earn" my ships ingame, just like in Elite so ill probably stick with my Aurora.
And for the time being, you can always steal other players ships if you want to try something different..

Cant wait for the 3.0, its going to be a mindblower..

Don't edit your posts after people have already answered the first version. It makes you look very dishonest which is not a good way to start a conversation.

(correction you are now on the third version stop it)

 

[VidarSnipes]

So, what's the deal with claims of altered lighting in 2.6? It doesn't look any worse than previous iterations to me, except for too powerful bloom (and the fact I dislike the outside lighting, everything is in sepia and that looks terrible).