Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[Comandante]

This would link with what I thought was the most interesting theory about the size of the shell - that it was to observe what happened in Merope between 125-150 years ago.

At first I didn't understand this; but I think I do now but require clarification. Is what you're saying:

• "Aliens" from (possibly) another galaxy haven't heard from their allies for over 125+ years;
• Should the local allies still be alive, arrival of the UPs would have resulted in immediate transmission back to their allies in "another galaxy/place"; But no transmission received, so...
• Perhaps they knew earlier that transmissions stopped but it "took a while" to plan and get here;
• The shell reflects the last position of their lost comrades they knew about;
• The distance reflects the ability (I'm picking this up from what someone else on here commented about a Star Trek NG episode) to "look back in time" to establish what happened at some central point (the 7 Sisters) and view what happened;
• Not understanding what happened, or establishing that the former allies disappeared, now send scout ships to "search for survivors" (Or: CULPRITS!)

Would I be on the right track here with your reasoning?

If so cracking the transmission bar code would be key, but might not be possible.

Back in a while - UP(S!) just turned up with a biscuit delivery and 16 rolls of 30m premium tinfoil...

 

[Cmdr Edard]

So how goes the Paul hyperdictions? Paul has seem to disapeard for me and a friend who has done 1001 jumps to the dot. she has not even been dicted by Paul once. (paul is what I named the ship)

I would like to cast my vote to officially name the alien ship "Paul". Its got a good ring to it. Memorable. Like a lot of Pauls he turns up unannounced and never shows up when you want him to.

 

[jljdownton]

Is it still possible to get hyperdicted without a UP? Just heading out to get a UA but wondering if I should pick up a probe while I'm at it.

 

[Julio Montega]

I get 3 3 and 6 1 on octal

--- = 0
--| = 1
-|- = 2
-|| = 3
|-- = 4
|-| = 5
||- = 6
||| = 7

Whatever the outcome of the analysis of the presumed code,
we need to factor in the possibility that the code is reversed,
and we need to read it backwards

Any HIP/HR 3361 or HIP/HR 1633 close to Maia?

 

[DavidMik]

On the subject of the potential code visible in the "Scan" (I personally question it being a scan - why would a scan be so... overt? Seems like we're applying human behavior to it, as well.), look to the right or left when it lights up. The effect will move with your vision and stretch. Kind of helps to clear it from the light source in the center of the ship. Video (not mine). Maybe people can head out to get hyperdicted, then look to the left when the thing happens, and others can look to the right. Then look at both together to see the whole image. Also, maybe looking up and down isn't a bad idea? No idea how the effects behave when looking around, but worth a shot to get a better view.

 

[frostypaw]

[*]The distance reflects the ability (I'm picking this up from what someone else on here commented about a Star Trek NG episode) to "look back in time" to establish what happened at some central point (the 7 Sisters) and view what happened;

Yup - a light year is how long it takes light to travel in a year so a device at 130ly from Merope could look at Merope and see what happened 130 years ago. Spread those devices in a 360deg shell 25 light years thick and you have full forwards-rewind viewing of events within the shell from all angles for that time period.

 

[JesusRocks1988]

I think the main problem with decoding the barcode is that there is an awful lot of ghosting. Are all those lines part of the code or are some of them simply flare?

I have a feeling some of them - particularly the overlapping parts - are just ghosting. So the first step is to work out what's meant to be there and what's not.

 

[Howard o Pato]

Spoiler

https://images.discordapp.net/.eJwV...DvBsRcOeTt5VFf0EeHtyrw?width=1125&height=2000

we have a bigger problem up our sleeves...

I'm not sure if anyone has already commented on this, but interdiction in Earth is false.
A very poor work of Photoshop
Can be easily perceived by the bugs at the edge of the name.
Then the obvious: a wake as a target in space, appears only as location: deep space, the target is wrong. Even if it were real appearing sun system would be more convincing.

 

[Hartwolf]

Whatever the outcome of the analysis of the presumed code,
we need to factor in the possibility that the code is reversed,
and we need to read it backwards

Any HIP/HR 3361 or HIP/HR 1633 close to Maia?

I'm currently in Maia so I decided to check. Depending on how you define "close", yes. There is a HIP 3361 about 270LY from Maia and an HR 1633 about 170LY from Maia.

 

[Comandante]

Yup - a light year is how long it takes light to travel in a year so a device at 130ly from Merope could look at Merope and see what happened 130 years ago. Spread those devices in a 360deg shell 25 light years thick and you have full forwards-rewind viewing of events within the shell from all angles for that time period.

OK cool this is all "starting to make sense", at least with my own twisted logic; there's something definitely Thargoid about this, yet the response from recent encounters doesn't tally with our original experiences of them. So the reasoning for myself at this time is that (as others have mentioned) there's some scouting going on.

(CMDR Ahab on all channels) "Dang it Cleetus, how we gonna' 'splain thees one?"

(Singing) There could be trouble ahead...

 

[The_Sprite]

I'm not sure if anyone has already commented on this, but interdiction in Earth is false.
A very poor work of Photoshop
Can be easily perceived by the bugs at the edge of the name.
Then the obvious: a wake as a target in space, appears only as location: deep space, the target is wrong. Even if it were real appearing sun system would be more convincing.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/241002132306788352/267500682473373699/unknown.png

Yup you are Correct. Here is the Screenie from my own Encounter.

http://www.screencast.com/t/xkV57c1uJ

Wake is Targetted and Deep Space can be clearly seen

 

[Masheikh Scytale]

Yup - a light year is how long it takes light to travel in a year so a device at 130ly from Merope could look at Merope and see what happened 130 years ago. Spread those devices in a 360deg shell 25 light years thick and you have full forwards-rewind viewing of events within the shell from all angles for that time period.

I don't think FDevs would start any "relativistic" game feature or concept in this game ... would simply be unplayable.

 

[frostypaw]

(CMDR Ahab on all channels) "Dang it Cleetus, how we gonna' 'splain thees one?"

(Singing) There could be trouble ahead...

I'm sure it'll be fine - it's not like we used biological warfare or anything nasty,

 

[Hartwolf]

I don't think FDevs would start any "relativistic" game feature or concept in this game ... would simply be unplayable.

They might not be able to represent relativity with in-game mechanics, but couldn't they still use it to justify Lore?

 

[CMDR RaoulDuke]

I think the main problem with decoding the barcode is that there is an awful lot of ghosting. Are all those lines part of the code or are some of them simply flare?

I have a feeling some of them - particularly the overlapping parts - are just ghosting. So the first step is to work out what's meant to be there and what's not.

Yeah I think there is ghosting. I watched one of the youtube vids at a quarter of the speed and you can see where some of the lines ghost when it elongates

 

[Masheikh Scytale]

They might not be able to represent relativity with in-game mechanics, but couldn't they still use it to justify Lore?

Maybe but..slippery ground.

 

[Zambrick]

There is no barcode. That is a lens flare effect. If it were anything artificial and placed, then you couldnt turn your head and change its shape. There are other persistent lens flare effects in the image, but the vertical lines are noticed more by people suffering from Pareidolia type tendencies. You can thank FDEV for that one as that was the only way most of their puzzles could be interpreted.

 

[Han_Zen]

Those symbols also align with the "map" from the UA don't they?

That's right. It's a natural way to count if you have 3 fingers. Not the only way, but a good option.

 

[SystematicChaos]

you are. And I am.

However, what I think is that we are facing something similar to the UA and UP Convoys: we've always suspected there could have been an overall hourly/daily/weekly limit for them to spawn: if this limit is reached, no more spawns until next cycle.

Well I've been a bit dubious about the UP link and I've been jumping around for days with no luck. I finally went and got me a UP and honked and scooped it and got pulled over within three jumps about 20 minutes ago. Make of that what you will.

 

[GeneralGhostt]

for the aliens i hope that if these are really thargs then its the peaceful sub-faction of then the Oresrians are the ones we met now