Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Starstrydur

Starstrydur
xXxSatelliteNetxXx said:
Ok. Has anyone been able to
In this order

Raise all 4 relics.. Don't touch the relics . and complete all active relics. Without crashing?.
Everytime I crash the instance resets and i must start over. But when you so an obelisk it shuts off. I think something will happen if we can get them all to shut off with all 4 relics up and in tack. Just use an existing relic in your cargo hold for the obelisk that need them
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This is the reason I have completely stopped investigating. This would be one of the most basic patterns to try to solve something in the puzzle, and after it crashing 10 times consistently? Fugettabowdit.
 
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irongut

irongut
CMDR Cylixx said:
Look at this genius.

Can confirm that one group of commanders has witnessed this at both sites, I have witnessed it at the first site.

The system map displays the moons orbital inclination, and argument of priapsis. The orbital inclination can be used to determine the exact path you need to follow on the planets surface to eventually run into the ruins, the priapsis (the point at which the orbiting body is closest to it's parent) could be significant if it turns out that THAT is where the ruins are placed.

There's obviously a step I am missing to determine it's precise location along the moons orbital path. I doubt it's a massively complicated equation but I am really bad at maths.
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I REALLY hope you meant periapsis.

And I really shouldn't be laughing at this at my age.
 

ExoForce

ExoForce
walaykin said:
I'm not sure I understand here. Let me check:

Are you suggesting that all of the items (totem, tablet, etc.) contain a hidden flag relating to their spawn point, and that items need to be placed according to that flag/spawn position?

In other words, the multiple totem/tablet/etc. are not identical / interchangeable?
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Flag, yes. Interchangeable? Most of them will fit, to reduce number of combos (1 will not, closest most probably)
 
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carabassa

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It would hmake sense to me if there was a bug and one of the settlements has to have the previous patch layout. Both would be similar but with different obelisk layouts and aging.
 

xXxSatelliteNetxXx

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Chix said:
IC 2391 SECTOR ZE-A D101 only has atmospheric planets around the jump star. All the landable planets are 333kly away.
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Muetdhiver said:
Dumb questions maybe, but might be important :

Is the triangle pattern on the relic of the "new" site identical to the "old" one.

I know that the obelisks pattern sequence is identical, but did not check the relic :/
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Starstrydur said:
This is the reason I have completely stopped investigating. This would be one of the most basic patterns to try to solve something in the puzzle, and after it crashing 10 times consistently? Fugettabowdit.
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It seems like that's the puzzle. And maybe there is an order to the clusters. Not surejust handing in all stuff now. Gonna clear data. and start fresh with that theoru at alpha site
 

SpaceGoblin

SpaceGoblin
Cmdr Edard said:
Haha. See although this is a joke - part of me wants to put money on the claim that the Guardians made all the UAs and UPs and that the Unknown Ships are what remains of the Guardians. They looks like they are unmanned or AI controlled but also biological certainly has links with the claim that the Guardians not only experimented with biology but also started to augment themselves to keep up with the advance of AI (if i understood it correctly)

Drew Wagner stated in a twitch stream that "it's up to us if we call them Thargoids" in reference to the Unknown Ships. I wonder if the Ruins are like a time capsule set up by those that refused the technological/biological synthesis.

These are my musings anyway.
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I've been saying this since I started getting info from Ram Tah whilst scanning last weekend - that basically everything - barnacles, UA's, UP's, the hyperdiction ships, the ruins, the Guardians - its all Thargoids. All of it. Yes I am the alien meme guy only saying Thargoids instead!


nrage said:
It is complicated by the fact that, if the moon went directly over the ruins we would see the rise/set points opposite each other, but we don't which means the moon goes in an arc or tangent to the ruin location.
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At the second site it appears thats what we have, see here.


I've just caught up on this runaway threadnaught after being afk for 4 hoursd or so, and haven't seen anyone post the actual setting point for the moon at the 2nd site yet. Hopefully its where I pointed :)
 
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Brakhir

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MacFly said:
let me throw in a wild speculation here.

i bet the dejavu ruins or "copy+paste" ruins are crashing every time you get a scan with data you alredy have.
i have none of the data but 7/20 Tech and im not crashing at all.
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I have 13 data from site 1. I just finished to scan the 15 obelisks on site "deja vu". No crash for me (I'm in solo mode).
 

Darthtool

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currently searching Synuefe xd-p c22-17 D3, flying along the 29-30 lat line for a few hours and obviously finding sod all.

giving up soon, is this even a good planet to search?
 
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AdmlAdama

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AdmlAdama said:
So very very rough and imprecise numbers using this and converting compass directions into decimals using pair of points to take these 2 lunar
http://www.movable-type.co.uk/scripts/latlong-vectors.html

1. Take these 2 lat, lon for the moon
6.6252, 56.5709
5.9802, 86.5686

I can derive using "pair of points" the initial "bearing" of 89.526

So (6.6252, 56.5709) with bearing (89.526)

This used in "Intersection of two great-circle paths" should be enough to derive a great circle using the point and bearing.

Doing the same for MESSIER 78 SECTOR RD-T C3-4 which I used as a ref point for Barnard's loop since it's "behind" the area that's permit locked I get a starting coord and bearing of
(56.4487, -146.4587) bearing 91.3634

So using those 2 coords and bearings I get a "Intersection of two great-circle path" result of
3.0028, 123.8983 and an antipode of -3.0028, -56.1017

Now.. changing that around a bit... using the moons coord and bearing and for point 2 the ruins coords and bearing 0
(-31.7877, -128.9711) bearing 0

I get
-6.549, -128.9711 antipode 6.549, 51.0289

So if my math is right and not too far out of whack considering the small arc used for the numbers this should be the point where the moons path intersects with a great circle from the ruins to the poles
-6.549, -128.9711

So maybe trying to calculate that angle will give you a rough estimate.. especially since the bearing for the moon is sooo close to 90
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I mentioned Barnard's loop because of Mengy noting it's prevalence.

At the very least having the Lunar path and calculating an offset parallel path

Or

An ideal angle to be in the sky and keeping a ship following a path where the moon 90 degrees relative to it doesn't rise or set you may be able to find other sites sans the headache of the math.

For anybody who actually knows how to do this stuff correctly giving a set of lat lon points please feel free to take a crack at it.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-fqcT1t1QylyadOa23_fgFIlbRy7QBr2G2M4gjxOKsA

Or even better using the orbital inclination, etc.
 

Haumana

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Are the Relic Beacons pointing to something?

Let me preface this with I'm generally a lurker and not a poster. I also couldn't find anything before posting this so I apologize if I missed it and this is a repeat.

The ruins are not exactly alike. All 4 relic beacons located at SYNUEFE XR-H D11-102 Planet 1 B are "pointing" approximately 190 degrees.
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The relic beacons at the site found in IC 2391 Sector GW-V B2-4 B1 are all "pointing" at approximately 120 degrees.
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There is of course a margin for error due to the terrain. What do other Cmdr's think of this?

Fly Safe!
 

SpaceGoblin

SpaceGoblin
Haumana said:
Let me preface this with I'm generally a lurker and not a poster. I also couldn't find anything before posting this so I apologize if I missed it and this is a repeat.

The ruins are not exactly alike. All 4 relic beacons located at SYNUEFE XR-H D11-102 Planet 1 B are "pointing" approximately 190 degrees.
View attachment 113798
The relic beacons at the site found in IC 2391 Sector GW-V B2-4 B1 are all "pointing" at approximately 120 degrees.
View attachment 113799
There is of course a margin for error due to the terrain. What do other Cmdr's think of this?

Fly Safe!
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The second ruins are rotated about 70 degrees relative to the planet they are on compared to the first set. Link in my post a couple up from this (in pink).
 
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xXxSatelliteNetxXx

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Chix said:
IC 2391 SECTOR ZE-A D101 only has atmospheric planets around the jump star. All the landable planets are 333kly away.
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Muetdhiver said:
Dumb questions maybe, but might be important :

Is the triangle pattern on the relic of the "new" site identical to the "old" one.

I know that the obelisks pattern sequence is identical, but did not check the relic :/
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Haumana said:
Let me preface this with I'm generally a lurker and not a poster. I also couldn't find anything before posting this so I apologize if I missed it and this is a repeat.

The ruins are not exactly alike. All 4 relic beacons located at SYNUEFE XR-H D11-102 Planet 1 B are "pointing" approximately 190 degrees.
View attachment 113798
The relic beacons at the site found in IC 2391 Sector GW-V B2-4 B1 are all "pointing" at approximately 120 degrees.
View attachment 113799
There is of course a margin for error due to the terrain. What do other Cmdr's think of this?

Fly Safe!
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When I first got to site two. One relic spawn in horizontal.. And then relogged and it was fxed. I'm pretty sure the relic have their own placement instead of a group drop like the obelisk are.
Which causes inaccuracies
 

nrage

nrage
SpaceGoblin said:
I've just caught up on this runaway threadnaught after being afk for 4 hoursd or so, and haven't seen anyone post the actual setting point for the moon at the 2nd site yet. Hopefully its where I pointed :)
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Ahh.. from your post (which I skimmed) I thought you had figured it out and nothing more needed doing.
 
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