So now we have a (very, very disturbing) proof that there's air everywhere, even in space, in literally any version of Star Citizen. By the way, spoiler that, please.
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So now we have a (very, very disturbing) proof that there's air everywhere, even in space, in literally any version of Star Citizen. By the way, spoiler that, please.
Sure it is.. wait till it rains and tip your head back
We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I look at it as a donation. You think otherwise, that's fine too, we're all entitled to our opinions. To me, it's a donation.
I'll have to disagree on this one as well. The game has gone through massive leaps and bounds over recent history. I've been a backer since late '14-- I wish it were quicker, but what they're doing is very ambitious, and it takes time.
Look at it this way -- if the old maxim "quality takes time" holds true, we should the best games in history...
We all want a good game, to be sure.
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This one may seem a bit redundant at first blush, but depends on how they implement. If it's not nimble and quick, I'll probably end up ccu'ing it to something else. It has a ton of forward facing weapons - more than a super hornet and more than a warden-- so if it's agile, I'll keep it. If it's a slug.. well, a nimble glass canon is fine, but a slow glass canon is just death.
As for the looks, I kind of like it. almost like they took some design cues from the pie-shaped ships in this game. But, aesthetics are subjective.
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I think you must be thinking of an earlier version.. or maybe star citizen? the pu (aka, the "vertical slice") includes one system-- the system you spawn in. I forget the name, but I could look it up on the star map for you if you'd like.
You may look upon it as a conjuration of ancestor spirits for all you like — it still remains a purchase in every sense. This is not an opinion or about subjective views — it's simply you being factually, objectively wrong. If you want to maintain the “donation” misrepresentation as an excuse or maybe some kind of coping mechanism for CIG's constant failure to deliver, then that's where you'll find the opinion part, not in the legal status of your purchase.
…such as…?
And do you honestly disagree that, the more money they've gotten, the slower they've become in actually delivering what they promise? You know, the development that every last citizen do their utmost to excuse by rolling out the “but we asked for it” and nonsense — the one that many tout as beneficial to the project? Additions are getting smaller and smaller. Releases are getting further and further apart. Each major version has been more and more delayed beyond their stated release date.
Do you actually dispute any of this?
Yes, I'm thinking of Star Citizen, which does not even have a single star system yet.
Oh, and no, rain isn't free either.
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I will strictly refuse going to a nursing home that hasn´t internet access and a high quality game rig in every room
And every machine has the latest expansion pack of elite (horizons 2?) and SC... whatever beta version it's in at that point
Like I said, we'll just have to agree to disagree. I look at the milestones that they've met over the years I've been a backer, and in the context of what a fantastically ambitious game this is, I'm OK with the progress they've made. Not enthusiastic, mind you-- I'm very much looking forward to a full release of the game. Do I dispute what you're saying? I didn't know I was being cross-examined-- I'll say that I respect your right to look at things any way you want, and in a very real way, how you label them is subjective. The facts are the facts, those can't be changed. How you want to label them is up to you, and I certainly respect that, I just ask that you do the same.
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Sorry, I'm missing the reference
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That's just it: I don't really see you disagreeing — just evading the question and becoming aggressive when that doesn't work. If you can't offer up any examples that contradict what I said, then that's fine, but like you say, the facts are the facts and I would ask you not to try to change them, because they won't.
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Yeah, that was a typo... was going to refer to another game, realized that was verboten in this thread, didn't do a good job of editing.
Anyway, the current version of SC has in the PU (AKA, the "vertical slice") a single system. I could go look up the name, I can't place it just now.
As for the rain, It's raining right now, I'm not shelling out any $$ for it [joke] (With taxes going down across the board recently, they've decided to repeal the Rain Tax).[/joke] But you get the point, there are plenty of things in life we pay that we could get without paying money. It's not a point that's worth arguing, because at any level, something has a cost associated with it.
I said my piece, we can move on. we all pay for things in life we could otherwise get without spending $$.
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Indeed. Please stay on topic, which has nothing to do with micturition.
Funnily enough, Daikatana has stopped even being a good example any more due to how quickly it was developed.
In fact, let's check out those other lengthy development times that might compare to SC:
DNF — killed its studio and wasn't released until someone else took the IP and made a shovelware title out of it.
Diablo III — was not a quality title on release.
Spore — was not a quality title on release, and pretty much killed the career its main developer.
LA Noire — killed its studio.
Star Craft II — was… actually pretty decent.
ESO — was not a quality title on release.
Apollo Program — initially good, but was killed off due to poor ratings.
So, the maxim seems to be that, if you're a 90s dev superstar, long time = death of your career and studio, unless you're Blizzard and make $bajillions/month that let you prop up pet projects indefinitely, and even then, the development time does not actually correlate with quality. Hmm… could use some massaging to make it more pithy.
Come to think of it, maybe I should update that chart and add Freelancer too…
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@jmg + Tippis: I really don´t see your problem.
As an example: A few years ago I bought a game from a small IndieDev-Studio. I had hundreds of hours fun with this game. So I decided these guys deserved more than I had paid for that game and bought a second copy. The gamecode is still unused.
From legal perspective that was a purchase. From my perspective it was a donation.
It´s the same with Star Citizen. Legally everything I buy from CIG is a purchase. But I don´t need X copies of SQ42 and I don´t feel entiteled to anything. So for me it´s just a donation.
And I can assure that that is a quite relaxing attitude and it´s a lot of fun to follow the discussions of all these fanatic pro/con people.
Maybe I get a game as a bonus, maybe not [yesnod]
As an example: A few years ago I bought a game from a small IndieDev-Studio. I had hundreds of hours fun with this game. So I decided these guys deserved more than I had paid for that game and bought a second copy. The gamecode is still unused.
From legal perspective that was a purchase. From my perspective it was a donation.
It´s the same with Star Citizen. Legally everything I buy from CIG is a purchase. But I don´t need X copies of SQ42 and I don´t feel entiteled to anything. So for me it´s just a donation.
And I can assure that that is a quite relaxing attitude and it´s a lot of fun to follow the discussions of all these fanatic pro/con people.
Maybe I get a game as a bonus, maybe not [yesnod]
That's just completely uncalled for.
I agree, that side-discussion got a little out of hand. I've made my points, and I'm going to move on. Thanks for the (much-needed) reality check
+rep for you
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Micturition... I had to look that one up
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