The Quest To Find Raxxla

CMDR EfilOne

CMDR EfilOne
madbilly said:
Nice theorising and postulation!

An idea occurred to me. Is Raxxla a planet name that can be generated using the galaxy generation code of the original Elite game, given the correct seed. I would like to think that when David and Ian were deciding which galaxies to use they sent some lists of planet names from various test galaxies to Rob to help him with the book and he chose a name that sounded good - there are also other planet names which are in the book but not game, so this could explain those as well. Then David and Ian decided not to include that seed in the galaxy generator, and this is why Raxxla cannot be found in the original game. In other words, if we hack original Elite and brute-force the galaxy generation can we discover the "key" to Raxxla? The galaxy generation code is available on Ian Bell's website as "Text Elite", so this is a theory we can test.

What we do with that key in ED I'm not sure.

Another idea: Perhaps Raxxla itself is the seed that generates a galaxy containing a planet called Raxxla?! In the text Elite code the seed appears to be 3 16bit integers, written in hexadecimal. Assuming that Raxxla is in ASCII, it converts into 52 61 78 78 6c 61 in hexadecimal. This should be easy to test in the galaxy generator.

Final idea, also related to the original game: There are several systems in ED that have the same name as systems in the original game, e.g. Lave, but also others like Tianve and some from other galaxies. They are distributed differently in ED compared to the original game. We could identify which original systems also appear in ED, and check them all out to see if any contain any clues. Or maybe analysis of which original systems are present will give us some clues.
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Nice idea, but unfortunately this wouldn't work ... The system in ED is completely different from the old game :

Now systems have several layers of identification.
- For procedurally generated one, a system can either be identified by its longID, shortID, or full name (what we see ingame). I can't remember the complete, exact technical details between short and longIDs from the top of my head (Alot and Jackie Silver are far better at understanding this side of things than me), so apologies for the lack of explanation !
Additionally, stuff like "Core Sys Sector XX-X x0-0" for example have their ingame name overriden, because those sectors are hand placed. So systems in any hand placed sector spheres will have what's called their trueName replaced with the sector one, like around nebulaes, globular clusters and whatnot.
- Named systems have another layer on top. They can be identified by their longID, shortID, trueName, OR their hand-authored one. And this is where the main difference lies with procgen systems :
Any system in the bubble actually have a procgen name hidden behind

So effectively, Raxxla can't be guessed by bit manipulation with its name and whatnot, else it would be too "easy" :D
 
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Lori Jameson

Lori Jameson
MacrosTheBlack said:
Placing Raxxla in Shinrarta Dezhra would fit with the Elite requirement. However, I haven't seen it there :)

Could it be so far out in the system that it's invisible to the scanner?, perhaps just like Voyager you have to get close to see it. Considering Hutton Orbital, long (and close to an infinite number) trek's in Shinrarta Dezhra could be ahead. Obvious directions would be to target systems like Lave, Tionisla, etc. to begin with and then just keep going...
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Let's look at history first. Between 2303 and 2803 where was humanity at with space travel? Moreover, what timeline's do we have?

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Namely anything about modular spacecraft and Lave.
 

Lori Jameson

Lori Jameson
Hmm. 2300's were the Federation Vs Empire conflict. 2752 Lave got it's first starport and Modular Craft popularizes in production.
So, between 2100 (hyperspace development) and Lave getting all official we have a timeline.

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Recalculating distances... 30.5ly - 53.6ly minimum.
 
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Lori Jameson

Lori Jameson
Considering Shinrarta's distance from Lave is 57.6 (?)ly this puts us in the ballpark. Deviations may result due to Raxxla having a more efficient way of travel.

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Unless Raxxla's been moving again... Oh, no. No, no NO! This is why they were trying to re-find something! It went awol. It makes sense now. They are literally trying to track down clues about it's origins to find it again. Great. Who dropped the cosmic car key?
 
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Lori Jameson

Lori Jameson
Wait, false alarm. It can't have gone far. Probably still in the system. Just, lost?

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Alright. Refigured for time and speed. It moves at about 10% of the speed of light if it was last seen in Lave in 2752. It had to have left Shinrarta After the Turner's Quest issue. Hypothetically, The Dark Wheel and INRA would be more worried about Raxxla not Thargoids But, where would it go?
 
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Lori Jameson

Lori Jameson
Better question. How massive is it? Something huge moving that fast has to have a noticable energy signature.
Then again, we can't detect signals with our scanners after x amount of distance. So it's a station sized gateway... Probably like the thing in Polaris. A mobile spacetime rift to somewhere else or a mobile archive of scientific data...
 
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Lori Jameson

Lori Jameson
Hmm. If (Salomè's line of thought = Dynasty + Metadrive) and (Thargoids = Col 70 + Barnicles) then (Raxxla = Jasmina + INRA + The Dark Wheel + Ram Tah's Guardians)? Sounds like 3 seperate lines of story.

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So. To track down Raxxla we need information on all possible creators and their likely last location.
 

Lori Jameson

Lori Jameson
Huge what if here. What if the fall of the guardians predates humanty? The Guardians resemble us enough to warrent Ram Tah's enthusiasm. They do in fact have the ability to develop racial varieties. The lack of bladed arms can be chalked up to evolution.

If so, It explains the Fossilised thing on Mars. Wasn't it a tablet? Either way now we have two possible directions. Sol or the Monolith Network.

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Still, what is Raxxla? Either a planet (unlikely), gateway, or a mobile archive housing an AI. Or all of the above.

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If it's Guardian made it uses EM propulsion. Look for large EM signatures in Shinrarta.
 
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Lori Jameson

Lori Jameson
4 to 5ly out is reachable within fuel requirments and speed restrictions via super cruise. 24hrs or less is the idea. Idk if Frontier is that mean though....

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We really need something to verify our claims... or someone...
 

Macros Black

Macros Black
Storm Valkyrie said:
4 to 5ly out is reachable within fuel requirments and speed restrictions via super cruise. 24hrs or less is the idea. Idk if Frontier is that mean though....

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We really need something to verify our claims... or someone...
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Hmm, who would volunteer for such a dangerous enterprise...:)
 

madbilly

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@EfilOne: I didn't expect to use those methods to find Raxxla in one go, I just thought it might give us some other lead to follow. But good point on the datamining, this is not the way we want to solve the puzzle.

@Storm Valkyrie: Please can you use Edit Post instead of multiposting?
 

Lori Jameson

Lori Jameson
madbilly said:
@EfilOne: I didn't expect to use those methods to find Raxxla in one go, I just thought it might give us some other lead to follow. But good point on the datamining, this is not the way we want to solve the puzzle.

@Storm Valkyrie: Please can you use Edit Post instead of multiposting?
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Sorry. My ideas tend to elude me if not written down. Will remember though!
 

BluWolve

BluWolve
exgoaltender said:
Very interesting ideas... are we in agreement we have a testable theory? (-ish)
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"A place that isn't a place, a door that is also the key".

Personally, I'm still firmly holding on to my belief that Raxxla is actually a virtual database of sorts, of the guardians creation. One of their virtual workstations where they could log in and work with other guardians no matter where they were in the galaxy, all thanks to the monolith network and neural implants. Humans found a way to access this virtual world and the knowledge contained, but then they lost it. I also believe there are those in positions of power that have regained access to Raxxla and are using it to make incredible leaps forward in technology. I dont know how we could find it ourselves, except for learning more about the guardians and their ruins, maybe finding their home world.

Just speculation based on what I have learned in my studies of the many mysteries in the galaxy. I could be completely wrong but it is my best guess at the moment :)

I do wish you all the best of luck though!
 
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Lori Jameson

Lori Jameson
BluWolve said:
"A place that isn't a place, a door that is also the key".

Personally, I'm still firmly holding on to my belief that Raxxla is actually a virtual database of sorts, of the guardians creation. One of their virtual workstations where they could log in and work with other guardians no matter where they were in the galaxy, all thanks to the monolith network and neural implants. Humans found a way to access this virtual world and the knowledge contained, but then they lost it. I also believe there are those in positions of power that have regained access to Raxxla and are using it to make incredible leaps forward in technology. I dont know how we could find it ourselves, except for learning more about the guardians and their ruins, maybe finding their home world.

Just speculation based on what I have learned in my studies of the many mysteries in the galaxy. I could be completely wrong but it is my best guess at the moment :)

I do wish you all the best of luck though!
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Honestly if this goes nowhere we are left with this, the philosophical issues earlier presented, and/or another method of search.

Speaking of searching, we need to replicate the tests in other 'instances' of said place. IE: start at Shinrarta go to X then vice versa.
 

Dielos

Dielos
Is there anywhere a list with official accepted lore books and stories? Also, is there a database somewhere where we could access all galnet articles at once?

I still believe a hint has to be somewhere, and that we have to follow the old stories or galnet. The hint might be very well hidden and faint, but there has to be something where we could start...
 

Lori Jameson

Lori Jameson
madbilly said:
All official fiction.
GalNet databases.
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Elite, much like the old west; has incredible legends and ghost stories. Most good tales, no matter how unbelevable, all start with a shread of truth surrounded in fluff.
You just need to pick out what can be proven or disproven.
Raxxla is one such oddity. This means we need to sort through all the data and find the truths that yet linger. We need to prove the old novels stories are either lore or not. It will help pick out what was kept.
 
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