Which reminds me, next time I see M. Knight SHAMALAMALAN, imma punch him in the mouf and take my 7 bucks back for making me sit thru "The Village"
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Patch Notes Update Update 2.3.01
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Which reminds me, next time I see M. Knight SHAMALAMALAN, imma punch him in the mouf and take my 7 bucks back for making me sit thru "The Village"
/s added for dullards...lol
Very constructive!
Instead of incessant whining, couldn't you have contacted Drew Wagar and/or FDEV Community Team & proposed postponing the event on the grounds that XBOX1 players cannot attend?
It's tricky to move events when you've been advertising a date (what if people show up and never got that change message?) but pretty sure FD won't sitting on their hands .. Probably even keener than you are even to get game breaker bugs fixed, because their lives (livelihoods) really DO depend on it <WW buys a paintjob>.
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I think the first thing i'm going to do is give the galaxy map a big hug
Very constructive!
Instead of incessant whining, couldn't you have contacted Drew Wagar and/or FDEV Community Team & proposed postponing the event on the grounds that XBOX1 players cannot attend?
Very constructive of you to comment without reading the thread!
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/347283-Update-2-3-01?p=5436060&viewfull=1#post5436060
How about trying a bit more than incessantly whining about incessant whining.
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And this is fairly typical of the low-level abuse that's tolerated to those who simply post about the problems they are having. Assuming everyone who does so is some frothing raving madman about to keel over!
I am calm. I can calmly state that 2.3 downgraded the star graphics, the networking performance and my conda's bridge, oh and also changed the colours of the laser colour I paid for....
Not one of these things has been fixed. I still see ugly initial textures. I still got 2 disconnects last night and a few failed to load mission boards (pre 2.3 post 2.203 I didn't get any) my conda still looks like my 5 year old coloured it in crayon and my laser colour still isn't what I paid for.
Am I raving about that? No. I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed the devs didn't learn from last year, that they don't seem to be improving either in terms of working delivery, or in terms of customer communications, I'm disappointed they didn't fix this stuff already when it's been known about for 2 months and I'm disappointed they said they were fixing something and then didn't.
Personally I'd be happy if they canned all 2.4 content and fixed even 25% of all currently reported outstanding bugs, and yes I know the people working on new content aren't the same as the bug squashers, but we all know that 2.4 will come, with new content, and all the bugs introduced with 2.3 still won't have been fixed, but we'll get a load of new ones, the game will be unplayable for a few weeks for some, and we'll all be here again discussion the same things, only a few people who are now saying "chill" will be stating "it's not good enough" because they finally had enough of being given a mass of bugs on a plate and told it's a rib-eye stake and be grateful!
Same goes for you.
You just equalized food with entertainment.
The entire world isn't (rather, can't be) obligated to feel the same you do about this.
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Oh, yeah. That was bad. Like...really bad. I almost broke the disc in half but I didn't want to get a late fee from Blockbuster
Nope, they don't.
But that doesn't let FD off the hook. Their part in this is still the same.
10-4 Cmdr.
Enough said.
Message received and understood.
Following your bug report .. here is the only solution I can give you -->
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I don't think anyone should let "FD off the hook"
Though the response needs to make sense.
FD had a bugged release that has created a critical issue for a large segment of players.
They need to fix it ASAP. I have no doubt they are trying to do so within whatever confines MS or their QA Devs has for their timeline. I think any suggestion that FDev doesn't care about Xbox players is pure assumption.
The event, I think, would do well to be moved back in a perfect scenario but that is limited by Drew and his situation, whatever it is.
Now, if it all came to light that FDev was letting this Xbox issue rest on the backburner, then yeah, raise hell. However, at this point, it is all seeming like complaining for complaining's sake. FDev are doing the best they can as they have said multiple times. What do you want them to do, really?
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I mean, I read somewhere that you could remove the corrupted sections...but I'm not going to subject my family to even the thought of rotten meat being nearby as we like to eat our meat while it is still bloody.
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I'm talking about 2.3, not 2.3.01. Frontier went live with 2.3 knowing that the galaxy map/resolution bug would prevent many players from being able to play at all. That conscious decision is what I was talking about.
Yup I reported it on the bug report thread about the issue still not working within about 10 mins of the patch going live lol....they had already unstickey it thinking it was fixed....ooops, lots of other people saying the same thing "it still is bad but it loads in quicker"
At a certain point I'm sure enough people will take a break till the next patch so that people who don't have an issue/accept bugs can happily post on the forums knowing they won't see a post about bugs that triggers them to comment and comment and comment till people give up and take a break from the game rather than just ignoring the thread....because apparently all the people having such a good time in game have all the time in the world to bash those having issues on the forums...funny that
Aye. I do wish 2.3 cooked in the oven a bit longer so these bugs could have been ironed out...but that is the past now.
I'd be willing to speculate that some in the office wanted to delay while others would have said there have already been enough delays in Season 2, push it. No simple battle, I'm sure, though I think it is clear which argument won out in the end.
Yeah and what would of happened if they waited a week or two for a more stable release?
"Why didn't you release 2.3 in time for the Easter holidays? I had four days off and NOTHING to do all weekend!!!! I waited 6 months for this. You suck Frontier !!!!!!!"
That's what I'm sayin to you!
Not once have I speculated on this. I'm critical of their response as well as the PC players here who claim we're just "whining" and I'm critical of the moderation staff that perpetuates those attitudes.. but I don't doubt that this was an unintended outcome. FD didn't WANT the glitch to be there. I'm sure of that.
I want them to admit their mistake and jump on the PC people here who keep calling xbox players "whiners" and pulling the "PC-master-race" . That stuff shouldn't be tolerated, but instead we have the moderators piling on too.
How would MS feel if they found out that FD was treating Xbox players like second rate citizens to get them off of the Xbox platform?
uhm, yeah.. don't do that. That would be bad.
Some sort of shouting happens either way.
I'd rather the way with a more stable release. That's all.
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I'm saying you reap what you sow, your level of communication was at a certain level and people replied at that level and then you take umbrage at the fact. The level of discourse you recieved was of your own making, yes you have been asked to tone down which is the light touch that the mods prefer to use and is a warning and that should be heeded, but for some reason like a child you think that that is unfair.
You do realise it takes a number of weeks for MS to vet a patch don't you... how could Fdev tunnel through time and get a patch ready in time before the release of the 2.3 update???
FDev have given a time frame for fixes, PC which has already happened because they have almost direct access to the PC side. The XB is more nebulous because it's with a corporation a rather large one at that and i don't think FDev has the muscle to tell M$ what to do. So you have been given a time frame and what is going to be fixed but still for another 50 pages you whine and make snarkey comments and wonder why people fight back with PCMasterRace type comments. When people are pointing out the time delay the first I believe in a year for an XB a patch they are not giving Fdev a get out of jail free card they are just been rational and understanding that everything cant happen at once, there are rules to follow and those if you choose an XB are MS rules.
If you are deluded and think you can release a game and not have bugs you are mistaken, when games where less than 48k in size they still shipped with bugs and if you where lucky you got a list of 'pokes' in a magazine to fix the bugs. When Elite II came out it fit on a single floppy it shipped with some bugs that where never fixed, by then fixes where acquired by patches on disks on the front of magazine covers. ED is 6000 times larger mistakes and bugs will happen and FDEV are under no contractual obligation to fix them, none what so ever. So here we are today the XB has slowed down the patches for the PC version (sorry!) we get regular patches fixing bugs which is better than not getting them at all. So for once the PC is getting a patch out of synch with the XB you could have aired your grievence in a strong but reasonable manner, wished the PC's a good weekend and have fun. Because whinging over 2 days can not change the fact that the XB patch is somewhere in an in-tray at MS.
If you aim your discourse at a reasonable level people will be more empthetic with you, You mention destruction of the community and you have spent 50 pages whining and been very vocal destroying the XB community image. If another member comes on here and voices the fact that they wont be able to join in this weekend, people wont feel sympathy because YOU have tarnished the image, it will just be another XB'er whining (again!)
Get louder and annoy the MODS if you want to, but actions have consequences, but as I have said you lost my symapthy as an XB Cmdr. So think, if i feel that way about one of my own, how will the PC Cmdrs think about a whining XBox player and his .
Officially, I don't think FDev is treating Xbox like second rate folks. The community might, and it is up to us to not conflate those two positions. Does their silence in chastising certain members for their behavior amount to a tacit approval of those comments?
I'd say no as I believe it is best not to even step foot on that minefield. Let the community bicker and hopefully the mod team can keep it civil.
I don't know how MS would feel. Probably not much. They aren't the most altruistic or sympathetic of companies. My guess, is they would understand that FDev is handling this sort of thing the same way they would...don't get involved, just fix the problems.
I fail to see the comedic value here. It's ridiculous that they think it's okay to poke at their paying community (a non-homogeneous group by the way) for the latter having to complain and raise a stink based on the absolute lack of quality control on FD's part. They dropped the ball here, not us. And if they're not embarrassed by their performance with 2.3 thus far, then there is something deeply wrong.
Or maybe this is an ingenious attempt to minimize criticism. Just look at the responses to people calling out FD, as if the mere suggestion that this is unprofessional is unworthy of merit. But yay! We have yet another meme that some in the community can use to minimize complaints.
As a paying customer, I don't appreciate being mocked for complaining when the product I paid for isn't delivered to me as advertised.
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