How? With what stick?
I dont understand how this tactic can be abused... all it needs to avert it is good communication from FD
#support3rdparty - Why we temporarily shut down our sites.
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How? With what stick?
I dont understand how this tactic can be abused... all it needs to avert it is good communication from FD
Exactly. What we're seeing now are a lot of people who were dead-set against the 3PD's trying to recover the damage to their egos because FD/Ed L. handled this like professionals and came to an agreement. To the anti-3pd crowd there was no way to handle this but to ignore *or* attack the 3PD's in kind. I guess we can all be thankful that FD and Ed aren't like them.
So, lacking a meaningful response, you suggested I took the low road? It looks like Arrogant may been the perfect word to use.
Fly safe, Commander.
Well, if they can muster 100 mostly supportive pages of forum thread within 8(?) hours, they're welcome to try
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So what's the deal? Are they going to work together for the greater good of the Customers?
Ed,
To you and the team at FDev, thank you VERY much for taking this so seriously. It has long been an issue that even I, a non-developer have heard plenty of just by being around the community, and as a frequent user of the tools, I look forward to seeing how much better they will be with better support.
I will, however, express some skepticism. I have a lot of faith in FDev, I've been far more of a believer than not, but I have also seen enough to know that actions mean far far more. I hope you are able to take action sooner than later - obviously all things will take time, but this really needs to not be 'on the roadmap', but a rather more urgent consideration.
That being said, I still love you guys, keep on getting better!
This is what I'm really getting at here.
I've seen several people write that this was too far...however, in the story we get from 3pdevs they were being ignored.
So, I ask again. How else would they have gotten Frontier's ear for something that is clearly important to many players?
I have lots of replies, but what is the point. If your going to be abusive, i'm not interested.
I fully support this action too !
All tools that we use for a better gameplay experience are tools that should be developed by Frontier and not players !
These tools are amazing, and now I can't imagine play without these tools !!! My team think about the same things !
Frontier, Open your eyes and see all the community work ! All elite dangerous players that I know are using community tools, we love it and we need it ! Develop your own tools or be grateful and reward community tools !
All tools that we use for a better gameplay experience are tools that should be developed by Frontier and not players !
These tools are amazing, and now I can't imagine play without these tools !!! My team think about the same things !
Frontier, Open your eyes and see all the community work ! All elite dangerous players that I know are using community tools, we love it and we need it ! Develop your own tools or be grateful and reward community tools !
Can I ask why you decided shutting down sites with little to no warning as the only thing left that you could do?
Why not post here way before it got to this stage after having no luck trying to speak privately with Frontier.
I'd wager you would of gotten a better reaction from people (ie. No one accusing you of holding Frontier to ransom) and would of fully put the onus on Frontier to communicate better.
If nothing had happened after a week or two then by all means bring the sites down to draw even more attention. At least people could of been warned/expected them to be down.
I agree with others that it seems the timing was literally to cause headaches for the Frontier during this weekends event (and bank holiday weekend).
Don't get me wrong, the effort guys/girls like you put in to creating sites like these is amazing and I hope the communication between you and FD gets better but I feel you picked the wrong thing and time to do this.
No they aren't.
I have to agree, I would rather they spend more time developing in-game features.
Don't get me wrong there is some great work out there and a lot of hard work has gone into it.
All I see is a black mail attempt to get more out of FD, at the expense of its users.
If you shut down your sites, the game will continue and other sites will crop up.
they will be soon
I would love to know what kind of guarantee they received that this wouldn't happen again.
The OP was pretty clear in his timeline about how FD constantly picked up and dropped the ball for months at a time.
There is no reason to believe that FD will keep up with communication AFTER Drew's event this weekend.
I just noticed INARA engineer info was recently updated....looks good to me. Don't be so impatient for free stuff...really.
Actually, you resorted to ad hominem attacks and that is when RobbyP rightly realized you lost, and he won.
You have to appreciate that what you propose, is not at all what happened at all. A systematic scheme was undertaken to use our voices, to get them, the group included with the OP, to get the attention they wanted.
I'm betting, that if that group submitted the Post, without the extortion, they would have achieved their hands goals. But, their services being invaluable to the players, they decided to abuse our relationship, and use us to do their bidding.
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