Another one of these threads is it, the reveals will come when Fdev are ready...what you want is irrelevant
So, about 2.4...
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Another one of these threads is it, the reveals will come when Fdev are ready...what you want is irrelevant
Yeah ok, we don't need to know about the story right now, that's cool. We get the "No spoil" thing, that's a good idea. Even if I feel like it'll be 6other months dedicated to 2.4.
But we just want to know what is to be changed/fixed/balanced. They don't have to be ready to tell us that.
This ^
It's like being promised a stocking full of Christmas presents only to find just a Satsuma and a few Hazlenuts in there and then realise Santa still ate the mince pie and whisky you left.
they did this very much undervalued little gem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbENFcmurbo
(i actually knew it as 'virus' on the atari st ... with proper sound
)if you ask me that's a fairly more impressive technical achievement than elite 84, even considering the different context and time (about 3 years difference). in color and solid shading, it had no parallel whatsoever at its time re fluid, realtime 3d action and flight dynamics, in any game of any platform. highly addictive stuff
i didn't even play the original elite, i was busy with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZxMQJFwM1U
i'm a big fan of elite:dangerous, but value it more for its similarities to zarch than to the original elite.
oh, and frontier? well, they're a bit odd at times
but just let's let them do their thing. what we have so far is really, really, i mean really good stuff, despite any problems. i'm fine if they just keep going.
Both Puzzle/Maths Nuts or Astrophysicists will be need to find figure this "mystery" out and it will have to be done outside of the game. The only other way is to stumble across something which is just codeword for saying that its not in the game yet or the person who found it cheated by data mining.
Those are our only choices as we dont have an in game notebook to reference let alone the tools needed to do the job. You cant play this game in VR and try to figure out these mysteries just because none of the tools needed to the job are not included within the game. A simple ingame browser window would fix all this.
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It's like being promised a stocking full of Christmas presents only to find just a Satsuma and a few Hazlenuts in there and then realise Santa still ate the mince pie and whisky you left.
It's more like being promised a stocking full of presents and then getting told off when you spend weeks rummaging around in cupboards trying to find them before Christmas Day.
Well, you (FD collectively) have managed to spoil the current game for some of us. The threat of new equipment making existing equipment (and the engineer mods on it) obsolete, or new engineer mods doing the same, etc. has drained all my will to keep playing until I know exactly what I can still do that won't be made obsolete in 2.4. This plan to release it in smaller steps makes it even worse, for even if the initial release of 2.4 appears benign, we can't be sure about further parts of the coming content.
Also, my enthusiasm for the Thargoid storyline couldn't be smaller. Not just because the above threat looming over the entire game, but also because it is essentially decided that there will be war. Oh yes, yet another story where the terrible aliens come to invade and we humans must defend ourselves against the evil alien. Yawn.
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You did show some 2.4 content at Lavecon, but you didn't share any of it on the forums or in the newsletters (IIRC). I visit the forums quite regularly, so if there is something I missed chances are high that most other people missed it as well. I don't know about a single official 2.4 screenshot or video and yet I know that you showed some of it on Lavecon. So how about some sneak peeks? A quick video? There are plenty of Community Managers (way more than there used to be at release, which was like 0 or 1) and yet commuication seems to be less and less, apart from telling us your favourite ship names. I'd suggest you start talking with us, not about what you like about the game but what really interests us. It doesn't need to be some major reveal about 2.4, I am sure there will be lots of QOL additions and minor features like there are with every update. How about you talk about them? You didn't share anything about the stuff you showed at Lavecon yet.
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Oh my God thargoids have taken over Babelfisch's pc and keyboard. Is that really you??
Well everyone has a patience limit. Mine was gone a long time ago when I realized 2.x will take 2 years to complete. Currently these guys (Frontier) are acting like they are trying to kill the hype about Elite Dangerous so that people start to give up and look for new things. Instead of speeding things up and showing promise about the future development, they are slowing development even more (progressive narrative content revelation blah blah, sounds like stalling and buying time to me) and being even more secretive about it by not revealing a single thing. There is something really off about Frontier`s current sales pitch because every passing day I am feeling more distant than before. People are tired of grinding community events that are no more than pen & paper role playing stories and now we will have to grind for the actual content to be revealed? If the game was fresh released that would work but putting things like that in a game that is years old is slowly killing it.
that means then that season 3 (3.x) will be around for 3 years. 3 years of updates for a single payment unless they change the finance model from the season pass as is rumoured.
Sounds good, doesn't work.
Look at the community with this season.
The game is going down fast, they need to change things. So changing the model might be a solution if done right.
Going down fast? If you would have bought stock in FD exactly 1 year ago, it would have cost 180 GBX (1 pound, 80p). Today, as I write this post, it's going for 650 GBX. That's over a 360% valuation in one year.
I don't know of many stocks that can even come close. I'd say they're doing something right.
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Frontier have chosen their communications policy and whether you agree with it or not, that is going to be how things are. I used to get incredibly frustrated about the lack of meaningful communication but have resigned myself to it being the way it is following furore around Obsidian Ant's video his (and a few others) visit to Frontier HQ (has anyone seen him recently, or is he somebody else given up on the game for the time being?). I don't agree with their communications policy; I think for a game with such long development timelines I think it wouldn't hurt them to be a little more open. Like babelfisch, I do not mean major announcements constantly but (for example) a statement saying "planetary waypoints will be in 2.4" is not going to cause massive movement on the stock exchange.
All that being said, I do think what I will call the "programme management" of Horizons has been terrible. For what was originally scheduled to be a year, it will have taken 21 months. This is not good us as consumers (late content) and not good for Frontier (reputational issues, longer length of time fully realise the financial benefit of unit sales and ties up their devs for longer). The only possible explanation other than a failure of programme management (and it is mere speculation on my part) is that it is to allow season 3 to be released in a single package, relatively shortly after its announcement (Xmas period as per Horizons original launch would be good, but probably not). There is no evidence that this is on the cards, but it is giving me a glimmer of hope. I guess we will find out on 7-Oct.
That's exactly it for me. Not really caring much about the Thargoid story and new ways of pew pewing. Same was true for me in 2.3, 2.2, and various 1.x stuff. The headline features have not really sparked my interest by and large, but some of the non headline ones certainly have.
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No harm to ye m8 but this last past of that reply was really the only part Im interested in hearing about. The first part could be reduced to "more thargoids" which is about as fun as watching paint dry.
Im not even remotely bothered about the lack of information about 2.4...others here indulge that aspect of the game but they all but meaningless to me. Its the almost total lack of information about everything else that bothers me...why are we waiting the better part of a year fer simple yes and no answers? Because FD are having a tantrum?
Better results would be achieved by actually talking to yer own community instead of showing what appears to be indifference. It may not be intentional, but thats what it looks like ^
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