INRA Base Discoveries
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Have we ever had an explanation from Frontier of why we get blue and red circles on the ships's scanner, the blues indicating cargo containers, crashed srvs, poorly lit bases with data points, mining rigs etc, but why we get absolutely nothing to indicate the presence of a base/settlement which is a key element in a storyline? It just makes no sense whatsoever.
Last night I was on the wrong planet...
I often think the same, especially when watching the evening TV news!
Log transcriptions
Okay guys, here are text version of the logs for HIP 15329, Alnath, HIP 59382 and HIP 7158
System: HIP 15329
Body: A 3 C
Coordinates: -62.61 -44.26
Discovered by: CMDR SYLEO (Wing Atlantis/OSIRIS)
Announced: 2017-10-15 at 19:53 Ingame
Whistleblower 1/4
Whistleblower 2/4
Whistleblower 3/4
Whistleblower 4/4
System: Alnath
Body: A 2 A A
Coordinates: 4.02 133.54
Discovered by: CMDR Isaiah Evanson
Announced: 2017-10-15 at 21:45 ingame
Transcribed by: nodus
History will Decide 1/5
History will Decide 2/5
History will Decide 3/5
History will Decide 4/5
History will Decide 5/5
System: HIP 59382
Body: 1 B
Coordinates: 11.4 177.06
Discovered by: CMDR EfilOne
Announced: 2017-10-15 at 22:26 ingame
Project Mycoid 1/4
Project Mycoid 2/4
Project Mycoid 3/4
Project Mycoid 4/4
System: HIP 7158
Body: A 2 B
Coordinates: -44.63 -63.79
Discovered by: Does not want to be named.
Announced: 2017-10-15 at 23:29 ingame
Pesticides? 1/3
Pesticides? 2/3
Pesticides? 3/3
Okay guys, here are text version of the logs for HIP 15329, Alnath, HIP 59382 and HIP 7158
System: HIP 15329
Body: A 3 C
Coordinates: -62.61 -44.26
Discovered by: CMDR SYLEO (Wing Atlantis/OSIRIS)
Announced: 2017-10-15 at 19:53 Ingame
Whistleblower 1/4
I don't have long. Once they realise I'm gone and the data
has been copied, they'll send their attack dogs after me, I
know they will. But someone needs to show the galaxy
what the INRA really is - what it's doing, what it's hiding.
has been copied, they'll send their attack dogs after me, I
know they will. But someone needs to show the galaxy
what the INRA really is - what it's doing, what it's hiding.
I'm sorry for the part I've played in this. Truly.
I was a researcher at a facility in the Hermitag 4 A
system exploring agricultural applications of Thargoid-
derived technology. The lab was owned by the INRA.
Publicly, the INRA likes to emphasise the whole altruistic
and cooperative thing, but in recent years it's become
much more focused on weapons testing and
manufacture. Believe me, it's a military contractor in all
but name.
I was a researcher at a facility in the Hermitag 4 A
system exploring agricultural applications of Thargoid-
derived technology. The lab was owned by the INRA.
Publicly, the INRA likes to emphasise the whole altruistic
and cooperative thing, but in recent years it's become
much more focused on weapons testing and
manufacture. Believe me, it's a military contractor in all
but name.
The nature of my field was the study of disease-resistant
crops and mycoproteins, that sort of thing. I was getting
good results, even if my superiors took no notice. Then
everything changed.
I was running a bunch of control experiments, just trying
a few things out really. It was an afterthought - it wasn't
even related to the main body of my work.
The results were interesting and I didn't think they were
particularly significant, but something made me take it
directly to one of the INRA guys. I didn't want to go to Dr
Prince, she'd always been pretty dismissive of my work.
I would do anything to be able to undo that decision.
Anything.
crops and mycoproteins, that sort of thing. I was getting
good results, even if my superiors took no notice. Then
everything changed.
I was running a bunch of control experiments, just trying
a few things out really. It was an afterthought - it wasn't
even related to the main body of my work.
The results were interesting and I didn't think they were
particularly significant, but something made me take it
directly to one of the INRA guys. I didn't want to go to Dr
Prince, she'd always been pretty dismissive of my work.
I would do anything to be able to undo that decision.
Anything.
All my equipment and samples were whisked off to some
remote facility. Later, I found out they'd been taken to a
weapons-testing site in the Alnath A 2 A A system.
My research was used as the basis of a new super weapon
designed to destroy the Thargoids. I heard they
experimented on live captives. I doubt any of it was
strictly legal. It certainly wasn't ethical.
To the public, the INRA is a symbol of all that is possible
when superpowers set aside their differences and work
together. Well, it might have started off like that, but it's
something very different now. Progress at any cost, might
makes right - all our worst impulses channelled into an
unaccountable organisation focused solely on making
bigger and more powerful weapons. Bigger and more
powerful weapons. God.
If you find this... if someone finds this, make sure it gets
out. Please. It's time people knew the truth.
remote facility. Later, I found out they'd been taken to a
weapons-testing site in the Alnath A 2 A A system.
My research was used as the basis of a new super weapon
designed to destroy the Thargoids. I heard they
experimented on live captives. I doubt any of it was
strictly legal. It certainly wasn't ethical.
To the public, the INRA is a symbol of all that is possible
when superpowers set aside their differences and work
together. Well, it might have started off like that, but it's
something very different now. Progress at any cost, might
makes right - all our worst impulses channelled into an
unaccountable organisation focused solely on making
bigger and more powerful weapons. Bigger and more
powerful weapons. God.
If you find this... if someone finds this, make sure it gets
out. Please. It's time people knew the truth.
System: Alnath
Body: A 2 A A
Coordinates: 4.02 133.54
Discovered by: CMDR Isaiah Evanson
Announced: 2017-10-15 at 21:45 ingame
Transcribed by: nodus
History will Decide 1/5
Finally, we have a breakthrough. A researcher at the facility in the Hermitage 4A system has found something - stumbled onto something, by all accounts - and it's pushed our research forward dramatically.
Essentially, it's a kind of fungus - one that appears to have a significant effect on Thargoid technology. We knew their tech was partly biological, but until now we couldn't find a way to use that fact to our advantage.
The theory is that if we could somehow get the fungus into their starships - specifically their hyperdrives - we could shut them down. They'd be unable to leave their system.
We could end the war in a single stroke.
Essentially, it's a kind of fungus - one that appears to have a significant effect on Thargoid technology. We knew their tech was partly biological, but until now we couldn't find a way to use that fact to our advantage.
The theory is that if we could somehow get the fungus into their starships - specifically their hyperdrives - we could shut them down. They'd be unable to leave their system.
We could end the war in a single stroke.
...Bypassing security protocols...
...Secure connection established...
We have built a dedicated new laboratory so we can properly test the effects of the mycoid. We also have access to an intact Thargoid ship and a living specimen. I plan to test the mycoid on both. Some of my colleagues have expressed reservations about experimenting on a living creature, but I have no such qualms. We must know what the mycoid can do.
...Secure connection established...
We have built a dedicated new laboratory so we can properly test the effects of the mycoid. We also have access to an intact Thargoid ship and a living specimen. I plan to test the mycoid on both. Some of my colleagues have expressed reservations about experimenting on a living creature, but I have no such qualms. We must know what the mycoid can do.
...Bypassing security protocols...
...Secure connection established...
Excellent news: we have received a second specimen. We can now accelerate the pace of our testing.
So far, our experiments indicate that the fungus affects not only the Thargoids' technology but also their physiology, as evidenced by the degeneration of our specimen. These results are highly encouraging. If the mycoid can hurt them - truly hurt them - we may have found the means to win this war.
Several of my colleagues have left the project in protest over our treatment of the creature. If it were up to me, I would have them executed as traitors.
...Secure connection established...
Excellent news: we have received a second specimen. We can now accelerate the pace of our testing.
So far, our experiments indicate that the fungus affects not only the Thargoids' technology but also their physiology, as evidenced by the degeneration of our specimen. These results are highly encouraging. If the mycoid can hurt them - truly hurt them - we may have found the means to win this war.
Several of my colleagues have left the project in protest over our treatment of the creature. If it were up to me, I would have them executed as traitors.
...Bypassing security protocols...
...Secure connection established...
Our latest tests were extremely successful. The mycoid can paralyse a Thargoid system - either physically or technological - in a matter of seconds. It is extremely effective.
I confess: the knowledge that the mycoid causes the Thargoids physical pain brings me some measure of satisfaction. But when one has seen, first hand, the effect of their weapons - seen the destruction, the chaos, the bodies - can one be blamed for wanting them to suffer, as we have?
...Secure connection established...
Our latest tests were extremely successful. The mycoid can paralyse a Thargoid system - either physically or technological - in a matter of seconds. It is extremely effective.
I confess: the knowledge that the mycoid causes the Thargoids physical pain brings me some measure of satisfaction. But when one has seen, first hand, the effect of their weapons - seen the destruction, the chaos, the bodies - can one be blamed for wanting them to suffer, as we have?
...Bypassing security protocols...
...Secure connection established...
The haulers have departed for the HIP 59382 1 B system with the samples, ready to start mass production. We know the mycoid works. Now it falls to the other members of the project to determine how it can be effectively deployed.
I know there are some who will condemn me for my part in this project. Let them. I harbour no remorse.
The Thargoids understand only one thing: destruction. They will not stop until every last one of us has been reduced to dust. We have created a weapon that can prevent such a catastrophe. We have a moral obligation to use it.
...Secure connection established...
The haulers have departed for the HIP 59382 1 B system with the samples, ready to start mass production. We know the mycoid works. Now it falls to the other members of the project to determine how it can be effectively deployed.
I know there are some who will condemn me for my part in this project. Let them. I harbour no remorse.
The Thargoids understand only one thing: destruction. They will not stop until every last one of us has been reduced to dust. We have created a weapon that can prevent such a catastrophe. We have a moral obligation to use it.
System: HIP 59382
Body: 1 B
Coordinates: 11.4 177.06
Discovered by: CMDR EfilOne
Announced: 2017-10-15 at 22:26 ingame
Project Mycoid 1/4
To: Trystan Law, Corporate Liaison
I understand that this is lucrative contract, but I really
think we need to take a second look at the production
schedule. We have neither the facilities nor the workforce
to deliver what's been promised. Furthermore, the facility
should be subjected to a complete decontamination
before we start. That could take weeks.
Essentially, we can't produce the chemicals in the
quantity requested within the given timeframe. It just
can't be done.
I'd also like to renew my request for more information on
the purpose of the chemical.
Jarah Cook
Site Manager
I understand that this is lucrative contract, but I really
think we need to take a second look at the production
schedule. We have neither the facilities nor the workforce
to deliver what's been promised. Furthermore, the facility
should be subjected to a complete decontamination
before we start. That could take weeks.
Essentially, we can't produce the chemicals in the
quantity requested within the given timeframe. It just
can't be done.
I'd also like to renew my request for more information on
the purpose of the chemical.
Jarah Cook
Site Manager
To: Elgii Sung, Site Manager
Welcome to the position of Site Manager. We are looking
forward to working with you on the mycoid project.
I understand that you have raised questions regarding the
reassignment of your predecessor. It was decided that her
experience and expertise could be put to better use in
another part of our organisation.
As discussed, it is of the utmost importance that the
chemical be in production within three weeks.
We have every faith in you.
Trystan Law
Corporate Liaison
Welcome to the position of Site Manager. We are looking
forward to working with you on the mycoid project.
I understand that you have raised questions regarding the
reassignment of your predecessor. It was decided that her
experience and expertise could be put to better use in
another part of our organisation.
As discussed, it is of the utmost importance that the
chemical be in production within three weeks.
We have every faith in you.
Trystan Law
Corporate Liaison
To: Elgii Sung, Site Manager
Our analysis has confirmed that the latest batch was
contaminated, and is therefore useless. I'm sure we
hardly need to remind you how essential it is that this
project proceeds without complication. The cause of the
contamination must be determined immediately.
We cannot afford any more mistakes.
Trystan Law
Corporate Liaison
Our analysis has confirmed that the latest batch was
contaminated, and is therefore useless. I'm sure we
hardly need to remind you how essential it is that this
project proceeds without complication. The cause of the
contamination must be determined immediately.
We cannot afford any more mistakes.
Trystan Law
Corporate Liaison
To: Trystan Law, Corporate Liaison
The issue with the previous batch arose because your
unrealistic deadlines forced us to take shortcuts. If we
were given more time, mistakes of this kind would not
occur.
With that said, we have rectified the issue and extended
working hours so we can replace the tainted batch
without deviating from schedule. The next shipment will
arrive in HIP 7158 A 2 D within 72 hours.
Elgii Sung
Site Manager
The issue with the previous batch arose because your
unrealistic deadlines forced us to take shortcuts. If we
were given more time, mistakes of this kind would not
occur.
With that said, we have rectified the issue and extended
working hours so we can replace the tainted batch
without deviating from schedule. The next shipment will
arrive in HIP 7158 A 2 D within 72 hours.
Elgii Sung
Site Manager
System: HIP 7158
Body: A 2 B
Coordinates: -44.63 -63.79
Discovered by: Does not want to be named.
Announced: 2017-10-15 at 23:29 ingame
Pesticides? 1/3
Every day the haulers come, dropping off more of the
stuff. Others come to pick it up. We've been told not to ask
questions. See, there's rumours it's some kind of
pesticide, right. But with the amount we've got in storage,
they must be expecting one hell of an outbreak.
stuff. Others come to pick it up. We've been told not to ask
questions. See, there's rumours it's some kind of
pesticide, right. But with the amount we've got in storage,
they must be expecting one hell of an outbreak.
Some of the top brass from INRA's visiting. The boss said
he was here to talk about investment, but this guy had a
military smell all over him. I know the public thinks that
INRA is this great cooperative enterprise, but I don't buy it.
I think there's more to them than meets the eye.
One thing's for sure - they're running the show here.
he was here to talk about investment, but this guy had a
military smell all over him. I know the public thinks that
INRA is this great cooperative enterprise, but I don't buy it.
I think there's more to them than meets the eye.
One thing's for sure - they're running the show here.
So, the inbound haulers have stopped coming, but the
collection ships are still flying in. The place finally is being
emptied.
I was talking to one of the hauler pilots down the docks
today. According to her, this is all part of some kind of
top-secret anti-Thargoid weapon thing. Apparently they're
flying the stuff to a med-research facility in LP 389-95 7,
wherever that is. She reckons, this has been going on for
months, at sites all over the galaxy.
So it's not pesticide then - well, at least not in the
conventional sense.
collection ships are still flying in. The place finally is being
emptied.
I was talking to one of the hauler pilots down the docks
today. According to her, this is all part of some kind of
top-secret anti-Thargoid weapon thing. Apparently they're
flying the stuff to a med-research facility in LP 389-95 7,
wherever that is. She reckons, this has been going on for
months, at sites all over the galaxy.
So it's not pesticide then - well, at least not in the
conventional sense.
All the others are fine. The only dodgy one was the first, but once you have an idea of where to look and more time, or in the case of the recent a direct pointer, it becomes a lot easier.
As for drying up, people have jobs and sleep and it's no longer the weekend. We have another location so I wouldn't be surprised if next one is found soon.
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Great work! So LP 389-95 Planet 7 would be next? Will be going there as soon as RL allows.
O7,
[noob]
O7,
[noob]
Hi everyone.
We ask you to be a bit patient.
I know that a lot of people want to know in details how was found the 2nd base, so this short message is for them : We'll tell you how very soon.
Actualy, Aymerix is busy by RL, and Cmdr Syleo too.
Cmdr Syleo will write up all the methods he used to find this 2nd base, in french, and it will be translated.
So please, be patient. We are all busy by our RL and I know that you'll be sympathetic.
We ask you to be a bit patient.
I know that a lot of people want to know in details how was found the 2nd base, so this short message is for them : We'll tell you how very soon.
Actualy, Aymerix is busy by RL, and Cmdr Syleo too.
Cmdr Syleo will write up all the methods he used to find this 2nd base, in french, and it will be translated.
So please, be patient. We are all busy by our RL and I know that you'll be sympathetic.
I can only say this: I was with one of the (3?) teams yesterday and yes, it happened really fast. It was a succession of very intense searches according to a well established search pattern. While one team was still analyzing stuff and keeping the publiuc in the loop, one other team was charting/screenshotting the current one whereas the next team was already en route to the next base that was hinted at (in this case Alnath).
You can think of it what you will but jumping to conclusions of hacking and trolling and whatnot without even having the tiniest bit of evidence or even indication is just plain mean. It is unfair to those who spent their spare time yoghurting across planets. I sometimes get the feeling that others like to be the trolls negrepping the success of a group that received its beating after 'some event' in April and that some people just take any opportunity to chime in on this. You should be ashamed.
Other than this I can only quote Mark Twain: "If you have nothing to say, say nothing."
Remember...
You can think of it what you will but jumping to conclusions of hacking and trolling and whatnot without even having the tiniest bit of evidence or even indication is just plain mean. It is unfair to those who spent their spare time yoghurting across planets. I sometimes get the feeling that others like to be the trolls negrepping the success of a group that received its beating after 'some event' in April and that some people just take any opportunity to chime in on this. You should be ashamed.
Other than this I can only quote Mark Twain: "If you have nothing to say, say nothing."
Remember...
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We are on Frontier's Forum here, not in a England justice Court where it is to the defenders to give the proof of their innocence.
If you are so convinced that we hacked the game or whatever AND HAVE THE EVIDENCES, then contact Frontier asap and tell them.
But if you haven't any evidences that we did that kind of, well you are free to have an opinion and tell it, but not there please, but here
We are disposable to explain how we found that 2ns base. But we aren't disposable to justify ourselves about this.
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So, we have a search that's being lead by groups players. Some, if not all, of those players are very experienced at co-ordinated group searches of planets. The have their graphics settings tuned for it.
(Have you tried following EfilOne's suggested graphics settings?)
This takes place on a Sunday night.
The last planet was identified at 12:34 this morning UK time, 1:34 French time.
The last body has 16 times the surface area of the previous one.
It is now Monday. People will be at work.
And you think it's suspicious that the discoveries have dried up? And your conclusion is that people have been cheating?
Really?
Please can we take this kind of stuff over to the Shenanigans thread.
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Happy I was able to help, aymerix you can include this all freely
Hi Alex, in case Mogriax doesn't get chance to reply quickly, it looks like there was a [ / Q U O T E] missing from his post, which has lead to a bit of misunderstanding. His comment was only the very last paragraph. See below for how it should have looked:
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Sorry, but ever since the first discovery, and then the quick succession of new ones by the same groups and same individuals, it screams suspicion.
Amazing co-ordination? Perhaps... but not even the Ancient Ruins were found so quickly in succession one after the other, and people had a good idea of what worlds to check, what temperature, etc, and had hundreds if not thousands of people looking for them and the most anyone could manage was maybe 1 or 2 every 1 or 2 days in terms of discoveries until Ram Tah upgraded our scanners.
BTW, just because some people here don't like my opinion, my opinion is certainly NOT trolling. Calling people trolls, however, can be viewed as trolling by mods.
Not really too bothered about the base finds - but wanted to say, you've got that wrong somewhere, possibly because the Ministry of Justice got it wrong themselves at one point
"It is a basic tenet of British law that the accused are innocent until proven guilty, and the burden of proof is on the prosecution."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ly-wrong-in-its-guide-to-courts-10016086.html
Hear hear! Well done, all of you. This is thrilling stuff. Do keep up the good work.
Disclaimer: My knowledge is limited and might be incorrect.
We had a lot of advantages on our side. The first base discovered last night was found after 5 days of searching a planet. So that one shouldn't be a surprise.
The three bases after that had a system name and also a good bit of luck.
A few things that helped:
It never was a single person searching, so we increased our odds.
The bases were conveniently placed close to significant landmarks, like craters and such.
That's also how the last system was corrected. Someone noticed a large crater on A 2 B and said: hey, that looks just like a place they would put a base. How about we check out that crater?
I know that I cannot prove that this wasn't done using inside info, but I want to give some context. Some of the people who discovered bases have been searching things like this before and knew what technique works.
Also: While I disagree with you, I think that the hostility shown is unjustified and hope it will be dealt with.
Well im sorry i called you a troll, you obviously dont have history for accusing others of acts which they are not doing. Last i checked the definition of a forum troll was someone who enjoys sowing discord on a forum by accusing others of inflammatory actions without proof. So if this is not you by calling everyone who is doing these searches cheaters then i apologise.