Fomalhut is over 15l7 from Luyten 347-14. Ngugira is over 15ly from Pi Mensae, so you won't get offered a permit mission these systems. You need to go somewhere within 15ly of the permit locked system.
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Thanks! I now have both permits.
Definitely appreciate the report, but this has been known for some time - the OP mentions the Isinor permit being available again as of 22nd June 2016. I got the Isinor permit during 2017. As far as I know it hasn't been locked out any time since it came back in 2016.
Not sure if this is interesting: HIP 22460 is permit locked, so the expansion might have led to a permit giving system, except there are no populated systems within 70 Ly:
I missed the note above on the OP that it was now available.
Permit Issue: "4 SEXTANTIS"
On to another Permit Issue: "4 SEXTANTIS" I've read through this forum and many people have stated they can't seem to find it, I've been to ALL the systems where "4 Sextantis Inc" has a presence, I am allied with them, but none of the stations they are present in offer a Permit, I haven't seen one anywhere.
But after reading the information in the spreadsheet it's not available, still.
You're saying that a permit that the OP says is not available is not available?
Yes, this has been tested by several people. My personal notes on the subject are:
* Permit giver is likely 4 Sextantis Jet Dragons, who are not in any system outside permit system.
* Permit is not given by 4 Sextantis Inc or Uniting 4 Sextantis.
I'm personally allied to both 4 Sextantis Inc and Uniting 4 Sextantis and the permit mission never appeared for either of those factions - so I can personally vouch for the above information, and others have also done the same thing.
Furthermore I have an open bug report regarding this permit as well as the other populated space but inaccessible permits: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/368164-HIP-54530-Permit-impossible-to-attain
Specifically in light of the situation with Tiliala I'd been hoping that similar "Exiled" megaships might appear for these other systems, but we'll have to wait and see.
If anyone happens to be in the beta, check the surrounding systems and see if a new megaship has appeared...
sometimes permits are not going to be available. That's not a bug. That's things working as intended. If the system currently works by granting a particular faction the ability to give permits out for their home system then it's totally possible to drive that faction back to their home system.
Fixing this "bug" would require changing how permits to faction home systems are implemented. You would have to create a new mechanic for acquiring permits that doesn't require physical access to the faction that controls the permit. You'd essentially have to move control over permits to systems from the factions that call that system home.
Probably a good idea ...but I wouldn't call this a bug and I wouldn't expect an acceptable solution any time soon other than hand-wavium adding the faction into an external system.
Fixing this "bug" would require changing how permits to faction home systems are implemented. You would have to create a new mechanic for acquiring permits that doesn't require physical access to the faction that controls the permit. You'd essentially have to move control over permits to systems from the factions that call that system home.
Probably a good idea ...but I wouldn't call this a bug and I wouldn't expect an acceptable solution any time soon other than hand-wavium adding the faction into an external system.
Indeed, if it's intended to be locked off like that, it's not a bug. However, I'm unconvinced that these particular systems being locked out is intentional, and I'm hoping my bug report will address that one way or the other.
And this is exactly what Frontier did with the Tiliala permit in November last year. Black Fleet drove the permit giving faction into retreat so that it was only in Tiliala, in a roleplay fashion. Frontier then created a new megaship, where that faction lives, "In Exile", in order to make the permit accessible. (They also made it so that Black Fleet can give the permit too).
You can read about it from the official source here: https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/5a057eceda59a26bc40b9828
Tiliala. And adding the faction to an external system would be a perfectly acceptable solution.
If it's intentional, I'm fine with that, but Frontier have (I believe) confirmed that some permit locked areas are for future content (e.g. locked bodies in Sol, Lave, Diso, the large areas of space that are locked off, etc), but they haven't said anything about these 5: 4 Sextantis, CD-44 1695, HIP 54530, LFT 509 and Mingfu. I think it's actually quite reasonable to assume that the permit giving factions were simply driven back into their home systems and Frontier didn't notice, as permits that aren't directly story/content related probably don't get looked at that often by the development team.
DRYIO FLYUAE IC-B C1-377. It was found by a CMDR on Ps4 I think. A security permit is required. It's literally in the middle of no where. Not sure if it's relevant to this thread but I posted it in the alien/mysteries thread and I was advised to report it here as well. Again not my find and I don't know the name of the CMDR that found it but it's certainly a strange one.
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Found by data mining, so they say, naughty ppl
You can't "data mine" on a Ps4
It's possible, but not the average player. You'd have to be able to access the PS4's operating system. And I promise you, that can be done. It might need some kind of firmware update or some kind of developer's kit, but the PS4 is a computer; a specialized computer, but a computer nonetheless. All computer operating systems can be accessed one way or another.
Hey, I'm just reporting what I've seen on Facebook. I'm not looking to debate how or why because I don't know and I'm not in to accusing people of any miss doings. I'm taking what I've seen as legitimate. Like I said I'm just reporting what I've seen.
Oh, well, no, you can't legitimately datamine on a PS4. Unless you're a programmer developing a game for it.
How it was found doesn't really matter.
Here's some more detail on it in-game, and a rough idea of it's position relative to the bubble and Sag A*:
https://imgur.com/gallery/SQKZY
Here's some more detail on it in-game, and a rough idea of it's position relative to the bubble and Sag A*:
https://imgur.com/gallery/SQKZY
The type of permit it requires is odd too, I've never seen one require a "Security Permit" before?
And here's what happens if you try to jump to it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Canonn/comments/7uezlm/an_interesting_sector_i_found_only_18k_lys_from/
Very interesting.
Edit: I wonder if this is actually an official "leak" by FDev signalling a new kind of ARG coinciding with the Beyond release...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Canonn/comments/7uezlm/an_interesting_sector_i_found_only_18k_lys_from/
Very interesting.
Edit: I wonder if this is actually an official "leak" by FDev signalling a new kind of ARG coinciding with the Beyond release...
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It could be that this is where Raxxla is. Probably not, but with that message upon trying to jump there? Hmmm. I've long suspected Raxxla is in a permit locked system and I've heard nothing from FD saying it isn't (or is for that matter); They don't say anything except "Well it's in the Mliky Way, but I can't tell you where it is. It's a journey that everyone has to travel for themselves." Quote from Michael Brooks according to the Elite Dangerous Wiki.
By the way, ARG? Haven't heard that Acronym before and therefore have no idea what it means.