Well said.
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Well said.
Step away from the keyboard and calm down.
Because right now you are the one that's sounding all salty. I know you want the game to be something it isn't, but it isn't and there's no evidence that it's going to be any time soon.
You know what? Given that the PvP 'community' is minor compared to the rest of the players, I'd be quite happy if they removed PvP entirely. Trying to cater for it is creating more problems than it solves. But guess what? That's not happening either.
I think that this is your speculation of what the majority of the Mobius players do, or what you would like to believe is the case and not their stated reasoning.
As for the last part, I'm afraid that make no sense to me.
By the way, why do you keep shouting at everyone? It's not very polite.
WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Starting! [haha]
You enjoy challenges
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Because I speak with experience and you speak WITH NONE. Self admittedly like more than half the people commenting here.
On reddit, in discords, youtube, twitch streams everywhere else. People agree. But here, its the same people and its a joke.
Its so much so a joke people created this, https://imgur.com/4eY0PR8 FDEV BINGO. AND IM WINNING!
^^ echo chambers are echo chambers in news shocker.
The question of this thread is "Why PvP is not popular in Elite Dangerous?" not "What would make PvP more central to the game?"
The answer is because people like that PvP is not more central to the game. It's literally exactly why I'm here rather than playing EvE or any of the other PvP focused space games. If it was more central I wouldn't be here either.
Yes the changes you suggest would force everyone into PvP - but is that actually any good for the game.
The question of this thread is "Why PvP is not popular in Elite Dangerous?" not "What would make PvP more central to the game?"
The answer is because people like that PvP is not more central to the game. It's literally exactly why I'm here rather than playing EvE or any of the other PvP focused space games. If it was more central I wouldn't be here either.
Yes the changes you suggest would force everyone into PvP - but is that actually any good for the game.
And you know what they say about assumption...
'All swans are black'.
WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Its not speculation, https://youtu.be/9tobMVjSMnQ?t=82
If you have access to the PGS, You can do it ALLL DAY LONG.
Yeah this is the echo chamber, and its a very small group of people here in comparison to the rest of the player base that DOES want these changes.
So is Charlie Sheen.
But you have won, and you are right, and you have all the experiences, and you have proofs, and Frontier agrees.
So why are you so shouty and obnoxious if everything will be exaclty as you say, and what we say is irrelevant?
All modes have access to the BGS. Get over it. FD designed the game to be that way, and that's who created "your problem", not PvE players who choose to play in PG's/Solo.
You've been told this numerous times and still fail to accept it, but it's not for a lack of education.
And to clarify - there are, in fact, no modes.
LOL
Oh is that why the PvP community is tiny by comparison to any of the PvE groups - because you're the majority. Gotcha
yous very clever.WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Fdev created that before powerplay was introduced. Before player factions were introduced.
They just leveled the playing for Engineers.
Crime and punishment, Karma on the way.
This is ground work people for changes. They created the game that way yes. But it wont stay that way.
THEY WANT PEOPLE TO FIGHT. They want people to engineer.
They balance the game around PVP. If they didnt we'd have weapons like they do in Diablo.
Think!! Think for two minutes and pay attention to what they are doing and saying people. Holy crap.
WorldsGreatestForumDad
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LOL
Oh is that why the PvP community is tiny by comparison to any of the PvE groups - because you're the majority. Gotcha
Why do you think they made changes to engineers for the longevity of the game so everyone has a equal shot? They wouldnt need those changes if they wanted people in solo and private.
They want people to do what I am telling you.
They wouldnt have done it. If they didnt.
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It's not the spoon that bends... it's you.
Heh. My point is that (to the best of my knowledge) 'Solo' 'Private Group' And 'Open' are never actually referred to as 'modes' in the game itself. Because they're not modes, they're instancing filters.
Well that's 3 crossed off... who's winning now?
Robert Maynard
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With regards to the contention that most players want the game to be changes so that players in Solo & Private Groups stop affecting the BGS / PowerPlay / etc. that rather seems to be at odds with Frontier's view on how many players get involved in PvP (i.e. those that would presumably benefit most from the change):
On PvP vs PvE
We listen to both sides. While it's true that the PvP crowd do tend to be more vocal and in previous betas have given more organised feedback, we're well aware that the majority of players don't get involved in PvP. A few changes here are more focused on one or the other (torpedoes have no real place in PvE at the moment for starters), but overall I think they promote variety of loadouts in both styles of play, and will make both more fun. On a personal note: I play more or less entirely in PvE, so if anything my bias in favour of that
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WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Exactly you instance out your adversaries so you can complete your tasks for objectives against your opponents. Taking systems, or moving powerplay stuff.
Its not gonna last.
Because people complained about the RNG and a lot of effort could mean no improvements. Now the RNG influence is diminished and every upgrade is an improvement.
Facts. Straight up.
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