BREAKING NEWS: GNOSIS STRANDED, GALNET NEWS!

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Morbad

Morbad
Logged in a moment ago and decided to beat Gnosis to the punch. Fortunately, I had already reconnoitred everything within one jump of the Gnosis already, so I was able to take my mostly PvP setup as is and park myself around the planet in question...

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Frontier should have allowed the jump as normal to a standard system...then have the Gnosis encounter a multi-power task force (assloads of ATR ships), sent to destroy the Gnosis and all it's occupants for permit/treaty violations, that had been laying in wait.
 

NUMBERZero1032

NUMBERZero1032
If FDev is doing this as a diversionary tactic because they needed more time to prepare the Cone sector, then they probably should have convinced Canonn to postpone the jump even longer before this all happened. Or at least mention that Canonn needs another stupid community goal to get the ship outfitted with capital class AX weaponry or reinforced FSD drive. Or send actual Thargoids to attack and slow us down. It would give us something to do.

Least of all, they should have had a better narrative than "oh, the Thargoids were lead off by dropping Meta-Alloys." Really? How far would one have to fly dropping Meta-Alloys for the Thargoids to follow away from the Gnosis? That ship is huge, you can see it for miles away. Nobody has the time to harvest and care for that many Meta-Alloys. But what we DID have was at least 1,000 Gauss cannons on board between 300 AXI pilots. Utilize that in your narrative. It would show humanity fighting back. But also have an ACTUAL MISSION about that for those pilots to actually participate in. Otherwise all these combat pilots came out here for nothing, and spend hours outfitting and traveling for it. Everyone, explorers, scientists, pirates, and mercenaries alike have spent all this time for nothing.

I would rather be stuck in one system for an entire month just to be able to say "well, we made it," rather than saying "well, we got screwed over by narrative decisions."
 

Winterwalker

Winterwalker
Factabulous said:
I'm heading back to the Pleiades. Before the event. Because I know what happens. Thanks FD. Thanks for the immersion. Unimpressed.
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Just for info .. FD didn't screw up on the Galnet technically, it was reposted by a player in India. They might think about rescheduling Galnet updates to 'the middle of the day' though of course.
 

Bigmaec

Bigmaec
Archduke said:
I think it's possible that this is poor implementationdue to two main possibilities:1) Content turned out last minute to not be ready (buggy, unfinished or linked to other mechanism recently abandoned)2) The content is there, waiting in-game, but FDev wanted to build hype and expectation even more, attempting to incite the players to be more eager to know - unfortunately, this was not (as quite often) handled well, and anticipation and understand the layerbase was grossly misread (as quite often)Im personally leaning towards #2There were many who vocalised their lack of real interest or expectation, although 1000 ships(stat from where?) docked on Gnosis and some this morning still on their way - so there was a significant interest, but not so much excitement.FDev desperately want to be able to excite players and give them something they clamour for, but strangely, despite so many clear indications, fail to understand or deliver
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Never ever.

That Event is so long in the making, I don't believe for a second that there is some "last minute unfinished content".

And there were so many AX pilots on board of Gnosis, if they had made a AX CG and the result would be the jump/not jump thing it would been ok.
The way they did it - Meta Alloy trails, seriously? With a full ship of AX CMDRs?
 
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NUMBERZero1032

NUMBERZero1032
Morbad said:
Logged in a moment ago and decided to beat Gnosis to the punch. Fortunately, I had already reconnoitred everything within one jump of the Gnosis already, so I was able to take my mostly PvP setup as is and park myself around the planet in question...


Frontier should have allowed the jump as normal to a standard system...then have the Gnosis encounter a multi-power task force (assloads of ATR ships), sent to destroy the Gnosis and all it's occupants for permit/treaty violations, that had been laying in wait.
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Wait, that's an Ammonia world. That could be used as part of the story. God I hope there's light at the end of this tunnel.
 

Obnoxious_Gamer

Obnoxious_Gamer
NUMBERZero1032 said:
If FDev is doing this as a diversionary tactic because they needed more time to prepare the Cone sector, then they probably should have convinced Canonn to postpone the jump even longer before this all happened. Or at least mention that Canonn needs another stupid community goal to get the ship outfitted with capital class AX weaponry or reinforced FSD drive. Or send actual Thargoids to attack and slow us down. It would give us something to do.

Least of all, they should have had a better narrative than "oh, the Thargoids were lead off by dropping Meta-Alloys." Really? How far would one have to fly dropping Meta-Alloys for the Thargoids to follow away from the Gnosis? That ship is huge, you can see it for miles away. Nobody has the time to harvest and care for that many Meta-Alloys. But what we DID have was at least 1,000 Gauss cannons on board between 300 AXI pilots. Utilize that in your narrative. It would show humanity fighting back. But also have an ACTUAL MISSION about that for those pilots to actually participate in. Otherwise all these combat pilots came out here for nothing, and spend hours outfitting and traveling for it. Everyone, explorers, scientists, pirates, and mercenaries alike have spent all this time for nothing.

I would rather be stuck in one system for an entire month just to be able to say "well, we made it," rather than saying "well, we got screwed over by narrative decisions."
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You know what's funny, is that earlier this week I jokingly suggested that the Gnosis's anti-thargoid defense measures would be MA cannons. Wonder if I helped to inspire this amazing creation of brilliant lore?
 

Metal Angel

Metal Angel
Blackcompany said:
Gullible as this may make me, and hypocritical as it might seem...I would buy another Elite game. But ONLY with conditions:

1. Offline. Single player/coop. ANY Online requirement, and its a Hard Pass.

2. Mod support. And I dont mean just hacking numbers and settings for small tweaks. I mean REAL mods. Content. Ships. The whole Bethesda-sized Enchilada.

3. A FINISHED. Product. Period. That means they make the whole base game, delivering on their promises and fully fleshing out the mechanics BEFORE release. NO exceptions.

4. Player Agency in a Sandbox Mode. That means a living, breathing universe. One that remembers me, reacts to me and the things I do (or dont) and changes as I play.

5. A different Lead Developer. Sorry, this one had his chance.

Deliver on these things, with this or a similarly sound flight and sound model, and I would happily buy in. But do another big, online only, MP "space sim" with an Early Access release, and I will just blacklist your website and forget your company even exists.
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I feel you, but my stipulations would be so completely different. This is why ED2 probably won’t ever happen.
 

bitstorm

bitstorm
Morbad said:
Logged in a moment ago and decided to beat Gnosis to the punch. Fortunately, I had already reconnoitred everything within one jump of the Gnosis already, so I was able to take my mostly PvP setup as is and park myself around the planet in question...





Frontier should have allowed the jump as normal to a standard system...then have the Gnosis encounter a multi-power task force (assloads of ATR ships), sent to destroy the Gnosis and all it's occupants for permit/treaty violations, that had been laying in wait.
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Ammonia world? :thinks:

Get the probes, sensors and links in... stat!

Also hopefully you are checking USS's?

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JonTheGreat

J
Red Anders said:
Really all that needs to be said at this point.

So yeah, tomorrow is new CG day and we have a crippled mega-ship. Gosh, I wonder what might come next.

Trouble is, most of the players who might give a toss about that are on it already, mostly in ships with minimal cargo capacity, hundreds of light years from any commodity markets. Oh and I'd imagine more than a few of them are going to be ever so slightly irked. For me, whatever I was hoping might happen this next week it wasn't getting the chance to spend a week flying loops to the California nebula to buy widgets and duct tape. In a Clipper, with a 16 ton cargo rack.

I spent my weekend engineering a ship for this. Boy do I feel stupid. I'm genuinely amazed that after seeing the level of community engagement with the stated event on the forums for what, three weeks now, somebody somewhere presumably thought this was a good idea.

The Gnosis was supposed to be behind the permit lock for four weeks. If it's not actually going to happen at all, rather than this being a one week planned delay before a successful jump at next week's server tick following a CG, I'd strongly suggest someone at FDev just breaks the fourth wall and tells us.
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Totally agree. I spent the last couple of days farming mats and mining to unlock Selene, just for this event. Terrible waste of what could've been a good event.
 

Morbad

Morbad
Archduke said:
two main possibilities
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Third, and vastly more likely, is that there is no relevant content that is remotely ready, which is why the whole area was permit locked in the first place. They didn't want to let ten thousand idiot players trap their CMDRs in a system and then throw a fit because Frontier let them delude themselves, so they took the path of least resistance, made a quick CG and wrote a Galnet article.
 

zarking

Z
This is.... All my expectations to be honest.
I did have some hope, that something really interesting would happen, but deep down I remember all the other "events" either real or imagined, that came to nothing.

Unfortunately this one might be a bigger disappointment than fdev ever imagined, the hype has been fever pitch, people have been spending days and weeks preparing, and now...... A gnosis repair cg, and it didn't even make it to the right system, the worst possible outcome


Oh well, that's my rekindled interest put back to sleep, I'll be back in 6 months, maybe. Damn, wish I hadn't bought those paint jobs the other day, when will I learn :(
 

Faybs

Faybs
NUMBERZero1032 said:
If FDev is doing this as a diversionary tactic because they needed more time to prepare the Cone sector, then they probably should have convinced Canonn to postpone the jump even longer before this all happened. Or at least mention that Canonn needs another stupid community goal to get the ship outfitted with capital class AX weaponry or reinforced FSD drive. Or send actual Thargoids to attack and slow us down. It would give us something to do.

Least of all, they should have had a better narrative than "oh, the Thargoids were lead off by dropping Meta-Alloys." Really? How far would one have to fly dropping Meta-Alloys for the Thargoids to follow away from the Gnosis? That ship is huge, you can see it for miles away. Nobody has the time to harvest and care for that many Meta-Alloys. But what we DID have was at least 1,000 Gauss cannons on board between 300 AXI pilots. Utilize that in your narrative. It would show humanity fighting back. But also have an ACTUAL MISSION about that for those pilots to actually participate in. Otherwise all these combat pilots came out here for nothing, and spend hours outfitting and traveling for it. Everyone, explorers, scientists, pirates, and mercenaries alike have spent all this time for nothing.

I would rather be stuck in one system for an entire month just to be able to say "well, we made it," rather than saying "well, we got screwed over by narrative decisions."
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Imagine a combat zone, with the Gnosis in the middle and all kinds of Thargoid ships to fight through, that lasts for a whole week. That would have been all kinds of epic and provided the delay.
 

Witcher 7

Witcher 7
Bigmaec said:
Never ever.

That Event is so long in the making, I don't believe for a second that there is some "last minute unfinished content".

And there were so many AX pilots on board of Gnosis, if they had made a AX CG and the result would be the jump/not jump thing it would been ok.
The way they did it - Meta Alloy trails, seriously? With a full ship of AX CMDRs?
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What's sad I find is using a "carrot stick" to get players to commune in far far away and the expect they hang around to work together in CGs.

NUMBERZero1032 said:
Wait, that's an Ammonia world. That could be used as part of the story. God I hope there's light at the end of this tunnel.
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Yes, that's where Thargoids like to live and where we would have to gather mats to repair and ensure Gnosis can escape without another interdiction.
 
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