No, will only have paid it a brief visit after getting the permit. I see that there is a minor faction there called Brightlight Training. There's an old galnet article about the Federation doing some work with them. I'm thinking about the hyperspace lights mentioned in the Formidine Rift logs... could get allied with them but they only have 8% influence so it might take a while.
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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No, will only have paid it a brief visit after getting the permit. I see that there is a minor faction there called Brightlight Training. There's an old galnet article about the Federation doing some work with them. I'm thinking about the hyperspace lights mentioned in the Formidine Rift logs... could get allied with them but they only have 8% influence so it might take a while.
Something stupid just dawned on me. If raxxla is supposed to be a low population planet then what about a search of planets at and below said population. Would that give any hints? Didn't a book give the limit of population to the visiting people. Or was that just in the original material? Are there a lot of planets with low populations? Even if it's not in the game and just the original pre game info maybe they mimicked it.
This might be a hot topic but, if you can figure out what it is based on in real life maybe it can make it easier. If raxxla has to do with intel or potentially jewish intel for instance(as there are potential hints of this in the art and various things, plus that was a common belief at the time of the original art and game) maybe you can pinpoint what it should be. Aren't there connection to jewish intel and british intel in origin or something. This is an internet game and there has always been the knowledge of info gathering on the internet in mass(even if it wasn't gathered via the internet), especially presumably by jewish sources(as a standalone thing or as a puppet setup by other powers). And those have always been associated with other things like british(the games country of origin) and possibly american or even french or arabic or other sources. What is the history of info searching and other secretive intel. I doubt NSA or American spying like today would be a relative source. It's probably the older theories if anything. Although I guess NSA was also around then(in the publicly mind) and probably had theories. I think it was more trusted at the time though. (BTW, a lot of these theories may be biblical allegories in part in origin. The kind of this is happening from the bible ideas. Although they may have a lot of truth to them also.)
It used to be heavily believed they were doing a lot of the older info selling before it became a more popular idea back in the day before this was a common idea outside of the internet. I'm not sure who else was considered to be doing this. The idea was probably attached to Britain if anything or other odd things. I can't remember the theories. There were types of info gathering specifically believed to be going on back then too. I can't remember. If might have correlations in the game.
I think this whole intel thing could be attached to an idea like where the elite of the world try to do something then it backfires on them and other odd things(like certain movies.). This is all also attached to some biblical stories. Although I think they are new testament. Unless they are also old testament. That is usually the case when looked into more. In fact most stories in western culture are attached to the bible heavily when you look at them deeper.
I think one of the beliefs is that other countries/powers were using jewish country status to do things they couldn't or wouldn't want to be associated with. This was also done in coordination with wars etc potentially/supposedly. This could fit the game in regards to major powers working together. Maybe against things like the thargoids or something. Or two of the powers against another. Countries have always had this odd way of working together in the background. Even taken to the extreme of using the phrase, "the world is a stage,: and that all things happening in the public is only a staged act to make it look like things are happening to manipulate the public... In which case if you consider all public things a lie what could you get? Maybe the thargoids and other things aren't real, or are controlled by major powers or groups/allies.
This might be a hot topic but, if you can figure out what it is based on in real life maybe it can make it easier. If raxxla has to do with intel or potentially jewish intel for instance(as there are potential hints of this in the art and various things, plus that was a common belief at the time of the original art and game) maybe you can pinpoint what it should be. Aren't there connection to jewish intel and british intel in origin or something. This is an internet game and there has always been the knowledge of info gathering on the internet in mass(even if it wasn't gathered via the internet), especially presumably by jewish sources(as a standalone thing or as a puppet setup by other powers). And those have always been associated with other things like british(the games country of origin) and possibly american or even french or arabic or other sources. What is the history of info searching and other secretive intel. I doubt NSA or American spying like today would be a relative source. It's probably the older theories if anything. Although I guess NSA was also around then(in the publicly mind) and probably had theories. I think it was more trusted at the time though. (BTW, a lot of these theories may be biblical allegories in part in origin. The kind of this is happening from the bible ideas. Although they may have a lot of truth to them also.)
It used to be heavily believed they were doing a lot of the older info selling before it became a more popular idea back in the day before this was a common idea outside of the internet. I'm not sure who else was considered to be doing this. The idea was probably attached to Britain if anything or other odd things. I can't remember the theories. There were types of info gathering specifically believed to be going on back then too. I can't remember. If might have correlations in the game.
I think this whole intel thing could be attached to an idea like where the elite of the world try to do something then it backfires on them and other odd things(like certain movies.). This is all also attached to some biblical stories. Although I think they are new testament. Unless they are also old testament. That is usually the case when looked into more. In fact most stories in western culture are attached to the bible heavily when you look at them deeper.
I think one of the beliefs is that other countries/powers were using jewish country status to do things they couldn't or wouldn't want to be associated with. This was also done in coordination with wars etc potentially/supposedly. This could fit the game in regards to major powers working together. Maybe against things like the thargoids or something. Or two of the powers against another. Countries have always had this odd way of working together in the background. Even taken to the extreme of using the phrase, "the world is a stage,: and that all things happening in the public is only a staged act to make it look like things are happening to manipulate the public... In which case if you consider all public things a lie what could you get? Maybe the thargoids and other things aren't real, or are controlled by major powers or groups/allies.
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Good to see people tinfoiling.
A few points on what might be relevant in the lore.
According to John Harper and Drew Wagar, non of the writers got any info on Raxxla. Soontil was specifically created because John was not allowed to touch Raxxla.
John has also confirmed that the Dark Wheel never found Raxxla and that at the start of ED, they did not know i where(or what?) it is.
Fast, cloaked DBXs is 90% confirmed to belong to Black Flight. A private military unit, operating in the Pleiades.
Black flight uses almost exclusively engineered DBXs and their call sign matches the first reports.
This is probably the group that kidnapped Palin. It's quite likely that these guys work for the Club.
Thanks for the info on Black Flight - is there any reference to Black Flight or Palin in Premonition, or is the Club connection just inference?
Also, since they got clocked by Obsidian Orbital while they were showing off the name 'Black Flight' is clearly a delusion of grandeur. They should be called 'Bright Orange Flight'.
Given that FDev were reviewing the drafts of the ED novels it's certainly not beyond the bounds of possibility that they used information from them as part of the Raxxla mystery.
I admit it's unlikely, but it's also unlikely that we'll find Raxxla so I'm just gonna pretend that there's an overarching narrative that connects all the half-finished and semi-forgotten bits of the storyline together
Thanks for the info on Black Flight - is there any reference to Black Flight or Palin in Premonition, or is the Club connection just inference?
Also, since they got clocked by Obsidian Orbital while they were showing off the name 'Black Flight' is clearly a delusion of grandeur. They should be called 'Bright Orange Flight'.
Given that FDev were reviewing the drafts of the ED novels it's certainly not beyond the bounds of possibility that they used information from them as part of the Raxxla mystery.
I admit it's unlikely, but it's also unlikely that we'll find Raxxla so I'm just gonna pretend that there's an overarching narrative that connects all the half-finished and semi-forgotten bits of the storyline together
Palin's abduction is mentioned by Patreus in a conversation with Salome and Arissa, about the mysterious "they"(the Club). Palin also mention these "Dark Forces" after his kidnapping:
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/56e6ab6e9657badd62b3d3c5
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/5706346c9657ba431760adb9
The only ID the ship outside Obsidiant had, was: S6:7
All Black Flight Pilots have a code name that begins with SVI: and a number. VI is 6 in Roman.
https://canonn.science/news/new-sig...itary-ships-in-nommai/?highlight=Black flight
Before the Thargoid Structures became public knowledge, the Black Flight were covering up their existence. So definitely a bit of a potential Club link, but not necessarily one - they could be entirely their own thing.Thanks for the info on Black Flight - is there any reference to Black Flight or Palin in Premonition, or is the Club connection just inference?
Also, since they got clocked by Obsidian Orbital while they were showing off the name 'Black Flight' is clearly a delusion of grandeur. They should be called 'Bright Orange Flight'.
Given that FDev were reviewing the drafts of the ED novels it's certainly not beyond the bounds of possibility that they used information from them as part of the Raxxla mystery.
I admit it's unlikely, but it's also unlikely that we'll find Raxxla so I'm just gonna pretend that there's an overarching narrative that connects all the half-finished and semi-forgotten bits of the storyline together
The Club did what they could to delay progress in Thargoid research. Most substantially they gave the hints(number station satellites) to find Guardian ruins. This was done to divert Canonn resources away from the Pleiades.
Black Flight operations seem to fit the Club agenda well, but there is no direct link. They do however have the resources to interdict and disable mega-ships. That suggests that they are on good terms with Sirius corp and Wreaken. The Club seem to assert full control over these two companies.
The Club is according to Drew, a Frontier in house creation. They may be the "powerful, twisted men" controlling Raxxla, but there are no hints to this.
As long as CEIP and TDW can be ruled out of the equation, they seem to be the only known organisation that fits the description.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, what they were doing fits with the club. My point’s just that they might be a separate outfit. There’s probably some INRA legacy/offshoot groups, some Galcop legacy/offshoot groups, Thunderchild, and other long running secret societies and cabals.
There would seem to be some PF complicity in what the Black Flight are doing, with the system with the Overlook being locked.
On the Raxxla front, personally I think the club are a different group from those on Raxxla, though I wouldn’t be surprised at all if one of the club was secretly one of the group who live on Raxxla - Exo maybe.
One slight thing on the Guardians - I don’t recall any number station stuff there. First site was triangulated from a trailer. Others were via Ganet articles & eyeball searches then one more via triangulation, after which they started appearing in Nav panels and HUDs. (Not that it makes any difference to the point you were making about the club diverting attention from the Pleiades, I hasten to add!)
You are right. The number stations were for the Thargoid crash sites. Guardian systems(after the first) came from Galnet.
I agree that the Reclamation version of the Rift had nothing to do with Thargoids or Raxxla.
However, the Premonition version - featuring the same cast of characters (plus a heroic penguin-themed commander) - was entirely about Thargoids and a shadowy group of people secretly controlling humanity.
Since FDev already had a shadowy group of people controlling humanity from a base on Raxxla, it's not impossible that they used that shadowy group, rather than creating an entirely new one.
It ties everything nicely into one bundle, which FDev can then conveniently forget about until they need to introduce a different flavor of pew-pew
I believe it is mentioned in the timeline for the game (or was, that may have changed) on the FDev website, and IIRC there is even a tourist beacon for it now.
See 2280 here: http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Elite_Dangerous_Timeline
Great video from Obsidian Ant regarding how Frontier handles narrative in Elite: Dangerous:
Kind of on-topic for this thread as the initial DW missions appeared to hint toward a narrative when they were still being given out.
[video=youtube_share;mYF7xrn48Zk]https://youtu.be/mYF7xrn48Zk[/video]
I'm also a fan of player created/driven narrative. Doesn't only need to be what is put in by the devs; if they give us a sandbox then they should allow us to make sand castles!
While our life support systems on the Gnosis are further rationed, atmospherics and CO2 venting especially, I've had this rare opportunity of interstellar comms again, yet briefly...
Raxxla is the word they gave for this world, on finding how fundamentally different, and strange it was. It's them who live in a true spacetime, where events are observed in relation to time, where any constant and reference and relation makes any sense.. Not this witchspace of present of everywhere. How could this absolute, priviledged, mechanical construct have happened is beyond me.
Wake up sheeple! The speed of light is faster than the speed of light! This is why you can't see them until you are next to them.
Raxxla is the word they gave for this world, on finding how fundamentally different, and strange it was. It's them who live in a true spacetime, where events are observed in relation to time, where any constant and reference and relation makes any sense.. Not this witchspace of present of everywhere. How could this absolute, priviledged, mechanical construct have happened is beyond me.
Wake up sheeple! The speed of light is faster than the speed of light! This is why you can't see them until you are next to them.
Are you suggesting that it's some kind of persistent USS and we'd only discover it by traveling in SC at speeds in excess of 1c, and that it would only appear when we're right next to it?
Been reading back a few pages and saw mentions of "superfast DBX's" and the possibility of it being Engineers-related, but does anyone remember a Galnet article from a couple years back about a DBX being spotted outside a station and, when scanned by the station, no life was detected on-board and it simply turned around and high-waked away?
Was this ever expanded upon further as part of some storyline or anything like that?
Was this ever expanded upon further as part of some storyline or anything like that?
I remember that article, but as far as I know, it was never followed up. Remember people speculating that the 'goids were replicating our tech to get in close and gather meaningful data, but nothing after that. Me thinks it was the pesky Guardian HOA coming through to spy on our neighborhood. Gotta make sure those are Tulips in habitat 3, cause they don't tolerate no daisies.
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Darn, that's a shame. Was excited to see where that story was going because (AFAIK) the use of AI is outlawed within the Elite lore so someone must've been up to some shady business.
Oh dang, totally forgot about that. Yeah it was either a shady business, or Space Jesus come to spread the word about Earth Jesus.