Another problem is that ED is instanced per solar system and you can't SC from one system to another. With that in mind it's hard to imagine how they would implement something outside that model. A rogue planet would need to be free to roam independently of any system while being able to intersect with (be visible in) them. I would be surprised (and delighted!) if that mechanism was there.
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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They could just say it's in a particular system. It would probably use a hundred years to pass trough, so it's not really a gameplay problem.
True. I'm imagining these things haring through space like comets but they could be a bit more sedate than that!
Even comets are quite sedate. There are RL comets in Sol with up to 800 years period.
A system is really really big, if you travel sub light and well below that.
Ah, I now see what you mean! I found the journal file spec (http://hosting.zaonce.net/community/journal/v13/Journal_Manual_v13.pdf) & did a search. “Rogue Planet” appears under the parameters list for “Star Description” and nowhere else. I think the implication is that a rogue planet will appear in-game in its own system (& therefore is equivalent to the “dark systems” that are mentioned in some of the FD-sponsored ED novels. I’m not sure how this would affect the system name though, must peruse the journal spec a bit more.....
edit: ok, had a further read & think. When you look at the FSDJump event the destination system is sometimes clearly named by a human (e.g. Asellus Primus), sometimes taken from an extant star catalogue (e.g. HIP 78085) but more often a Stellar Forge procedurally-generated name (e.g. Praea Euq NW-W b1-3). Given that Raxxla may (too much retcon!) be a rogue planet then what sort of system name should we be looking for? Since there is no star with it then the emissions should be very low. According to the system naming convention (https://www.reddit.com/r/eliteexplorers/comments/3rekys/star_system_name_meanings_sector_subsector/)
the first character of last part of the system name (e.g. the b1-3) in the procedurally-generated name indicates the mass of the star (main body? All bodies??) in the system. Since Raxxla has not yet been found (I think
) in any current astronomical catalogues and it is unlikely that FD would put a human-named system in the outer rim as it would be a bit of a red flag, then Raxxla should be in a procedurally-named system with the last part named a?-? due to the relatively low mass of a solitary planet.edit2: not that that will help much, have you seen how many a?-? type systems there are!
Edit3: just mulling this again over breakfast coffee. IF Raxxla is a rogue planet in its own system with no star then it should be pretty black & almost invisible to reconnoiter. Not sure whether that is a gameplay experience that DB would want to present. So I am still thinking that Raxxla may be a (rogue or otherwise) planet with a station or two in attendance, built either by the “elite corps of powerful, twisted men” that reside there, or by aliens which would then provide the “alien gateway” that Raxxla is supposed to home.
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The whole point of a rogue planet is that it escaped the system it belonged to and is in interstellar space somewhere, so of course it would be the jumpable body. How does one go about finding and travelling to those? Doesn't show up in galaxy map filters... (unless non-sequence or dwarf stuff includes it somehow). Or perhaps one has to manually select it from the galaxy map if he/she finds it?
Well, if my reasoning above is correct then it might be in a system named along the lines of:
SECTOR($$$$) SUBSECTOR($$-$) A#-#, where $ are letters and # are numbers.
It would be an A type Star mass system because a rogue planet should have very low mass, though the upper limit might take it near to the mass of a brown dwarf (which are also in A systems).
There would be nothing to distinguish it from any other A type system until you jumped in; though possibly some visual difference in galmap realistic view?
edit: but without a star in the system the rogue planet would be lit only by the light of the Milky Way, and should therefore be very dark (therefore uninspiring).....unless it’s near the galactic centre, or maybe in a nebula that might provide some lighting. The only example we have of a rogue planet in the fiction was in DW’s (non-canon) book where Raxxla was temporarily located in Lave.
edit2: it is possible to search EDSM by celestial body type. Zero instances reported of types: X, rogueplanet, nebula, stellarremnantnebula!
The alternative to being in a procedurally-named system (when it would follow the naming rule above) would be for it to be in a human-designated system, which should stand out like a sore thumb if you’re anywhere outside the bubble.
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Right. But there already is a fair amount of human-designated systems out in the deep black. Most might be errors, though.
And speaking of deep black, we finally completed that madness:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/448852
And speaking of deep black, we finally completed that madness:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/448852
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ok we dont know much, it is a quest without clues
however, we know that one or two cmdrs have visited the system (past post somewhere) and they didnt notice much and moved on.
Well if only 1 or 2 cmdrs have visited then it is an out of the way or obscure system.
So if out of the way then could be any random system a long way from the bubble (outer rim of the galaxy?), in which case it would be a proc gen name as any hand woven system would stand out on the galmap.
If it is in the bubble (near shinatra dezhra for example), then it would need to be pretty hidden or loads of cmdrs would have visited by now.
In the original elite sometimes it ws difficult to get to a system that was really close to another on the galmap as the cursor would jump back to the unchosen one (maybe 0.1ly away).
What if our magic system is similarly hidden and only the 1 or cmdrs found it by somehow zooming or selecting stars in the galmap that allowed the system to be targeted.
Or they accidentally selected the system whilst jumping somewhere else.
Alternatively they got a mysterious permit as a result of doing some long deleted dark wheel missions or some other unlocking, but I dont think so because that would the planet that cannot be named unavailable at present time and this thread would need to be closed down.
In the para\phrased words of strictly....
Keep searching!
however, we know that one or two cmdrs have visited the system (past post somewhere) and they didnt notice much and moved on.
Well if only 1 or 2 cmdrs have visited then it is an out of the way or obscure system.
So if out of the way then could be any random system a long way from the bubble (outer rim of the galaxy?), in which case it would be a proc gen name as any hand woven system would stand out on the galmap.
If it is in the bubble (near shinatra dezhra for example), then it would need to be pretty hidden or loads of cmdrs would have visited by now.
In the original elite sometimes it ws difficult to get to a system that was really close to another on the galmap as the cursor would jump back to the unchosen one (maybe 0.1ly away).
What if our magic system is similarly hidden and only the 1 or cmdrs found it by somehow zooming or selecting stars in the galmap that allowed the system to be targeted.
Or they accidentally selected the system whilst jumping somewhere else.
Alternatively they got a mysterious permit as a result of doing some long deleted dark wheel missions or some other unlocking, but I dont think so because that would the planet that cannot be named unavailable at present time and this thread would need to be closed down.
In the para\phrased words of strictly....
Keep searching!
YOU ABSOLUTE MAD LADS! Brilliant stuff.
Also, can we make "rouge planets" a meme please? Too good not to be.
YOU ABSOLUTE MAD LADS! Brilliant stuff.
Also, can we make "rouge planets" a meme please? Too good not to be.
Maybe rouge is the new beige.
Do we know this? How do we know this?
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!= "know this"
its in this thread somewhere....
(Raxxla is out there somewhere too....)
Ayerc
Master
There you go solid proof!
(Raxxla is out there somewhere too....)
Ayerc
Master
I saw a reddit thread that referenced an interview with someone at FDev who confirmed the system in which it exists had been honked by a player, but the planet was not detail scanned.
I didn't see the source material, so it's just hearsay from me, but I like to believe that it's true. If nothing else for the, "missed it by that much" aspect. Was it you? Me? We may never know.
I didn't see the source material, so it's just hearsay from me, but I like to believe that it's true. If nothing else for the, "missed it by that much" aspect. Was it you? Me? We may never know.
There you go solid proof!
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edit2: not that that will help much, have you seen how many a?-? type systems there are!
You've got me grepping systems.csv. Again!
There are also "a?" systems with no hyphenated suffix.
Curiouser and curiouser.
There are only 6176
Sorry, this is far too 'one that got away'. "I know someone who went to Raxxla but she doesn't go to this school."
I'm calling bee-ess in the politest way I can
Edit: I'm not calling you a liar, btw, but "I saw a thread where a guy said they knew someone who went to Raxxla" is not the same as "we know people have been". The burden of proof is significantly higher than that.
Edit2: In fact I would say that we can't know people have been without a repeatable way of verifying it. We can know that people have said they've been but that is a very different kettle of fish.
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Rogue planet systems would be so cool. You could see them in nav panel, but never in galaxy map. Some would have stations, "hideout" type of places. Some would be necessary to reach some other places. I believe they had something like this planned in 2014. Add lore & tinfoil and you would have entire seasons worth of content.
I thought exotic stars, comets, permit systems, rogue planets, "mystery" or whatever, were placeholders, like they were supposed to be updated into the game at some point. I don't think I'll be around waiting for them after the next update.
The meta-gaming aspect about this is pretty addicting though, you know, reading wikipedia articles, drinking coffee, and then sporadically travelling tens of thousands of lightyears while listening to loud techno.
I thought exotic stars, comets, permit systems, rogue planets, "mystery" or whatever, were placeholders, like they were supposed to be updated into the game at some point. I don't think I'll be around waiting for them after the next update.
The meta-gaming aspect about this is pretty addicting though, you know, reading wikipedia articles, drinking coffee, and then sporadically travelling tens of thousands of lightyears while listening to loud techno.
Soooooooooo this. Except, maybe, dubious music choices ;-P