Community guests at FD HQ on 27th for Q4 news

[Marc_Hicks]

Last time they did that , the AI went round all the engineers and leveled up everything ,promptly killed every player in the game before taking over the galaxy.

Bill

'ahhh... lets just pop this innocent looking NPC sidey... ekkkk railgun monster ... my shields my hull my poor 'vette The rebuy!! damned FDev ....

Come on, we know that this was a bug .

 

[StuartGT]

So some fellas got to go to FD to hype about the hype about what might be the hype about the hype.

Some ladies went too.

Never hype. Hype is evil. Salt is life. Wait for the livestreams

 

[askavir]

Didn't this already happened last year? FD invites a handful of youtubers to a top secret demonstration, said youtubers sign NDA and come out claiming "incredible amazing stuff coming"? Then we got multipew, alien USS's and a longer route plotter (well that was nice).

 

[Alec Turner]

Was anything discussed re: Gnosisgate?

Wasn't on the agenda for the day, they really just stuck to Q4.

 

[Asp Explorer]

Not necessarily. Huge open areas are very conducive to frequent and open collaboration specially when game modules are highly interdependent.

Which is why my pit needs both badged access and a physical key

 

[playfuldreamer]

Didn't this already happened last year? FD invites a handful of youtubers to a top secret demonstration, said youtubers sign NDA and come out claiming "incredible amazing stuff coming"? Then we got multipew, alien USS's and a longer route plotter (well that was nice).

This. I'm still waiting for all the amazing and exciting things we were told were seen in the office last time.

 

[Sir.Tj]

Okay, what was the general reaction at the time?

Wild applause, cheering, Screams of ecstasy echoed off the walls. strong men fainted and women's knees buckled as they got over excited and took their phones out to take photos..

But then David B told me to get off the boardroom table and put my clothes back on.

 

[thistle]

It's the unknown element which is worrying me.

*ponders deeply for a few minutes* Yes.



But back to Elite Dangerous ...

 

[sgurr]

You're falling for the smokescreen.

There was free beer.

Always on pint o7

Edit: no wait, point, always on point. Probably right first time though

 

[lokvette]

Some ladies went too.

Never hype. Hype is evil. Salt is life. Wait for the livestreams

I dont believe in Hype, Ill wait until its in game and the forums been moaning about it for a week, then pop in game and pass my own judgement on it.

 

[sgurr]

Wild applause, cheering, Screams of ecstasy echoed off the walls. strong men fainted and women's knees buckled as they got over excited and took their phones out to take photos..

But then David B told me to get off the boardroom table and put my clothes back on.

So it's your fault that there's an NDA!

I always thought the meme was a little unfair until now ...

 

[rOmiLaYu]

Good grief, the company invites some of it's prominent community emissaries in for a bit of a reveal in the hopes of generating faith and trust, while also looking for feedback. They (FDev) know they are in the red in that department what with Gnosis-gate, the Q4 cuts, and (perhaps) the (perceived) mission server kerfuffle. So they do what they ought to do. Communicate progress and create some level of transparency. Sure, not everyone will get the invite...how could they? And while I've spent countless hours on livestreams with the team and would love to pubcrawl with them, I never will. I don't have an audience and don't command any attention within the community. It wouldn't make sense on their end for me to take up a seat in the room. I get that...why others aren't as self-aware, I guess I'll never know.

People being "gutted" over changes to changes that haven't even changed yet...number of employees at FDev is somehow provable and dependent on subjective, perceived personal enjoyment of beta...Obsidian Ant is now apparently "toxic"....up is down and down is up. Whew.

 

[Kaocraft]

Thing is, you are gutted that a proposal you hadn't seen or used has been changed to some degree to a version you also haven't seen or used. And you're suggesting Frontier shoudn't ever tell us what they are going to do in advance.

Man, this company C A N N O T win.

Well, no. We have their original vague description and we know that the prevailing feedback was people shouting "Time Wall!" and/or "but I need to know right away whether there's anything *interesting* in the system before I play your little mini game!" over and over again. If they've changed their design to appease *these* people then yeah it's inherently got to be a huge watered down compromise. Either that, or the people shouting "Time Wall" should still be angry. But the limited amount of new information our special guests have been willing to leak, is reassurance that the "Time Wall" crowd have nothing to worry about.

Now, given that NOBODY has ever seen the original proposal in action, it's entirely possible that nobody EVER had anything to worry about, but all we know for sure is that Frontier have "addressed" the concerns about the ADS honk. Doesn't sound like a good change to me.

Anyway I'm eager to see how it all comes together but here's my prediction: it'll be optional inconsequential side-content which does not fundamentally alter the way we play the game.

 

[Caldric]

The visitors were never seen again....

 

[Kietrax]

...
But then David B told me to get off the boardroom table and put my clothes back on.

Well that'll teach me to read the forums when I should be working! So didn't need that image in my head right now - "swine"

 

[Kaocraft]

Good grief, the company invites some of it's prominent community emissaries in for a bit of a reveal in the hopes of generating faith and trust, while also looking for feedback. They (FDev) know they are in the red in that department what with Gnosis-gate, the Q4 cuts, and (perhaps) the (perceived) mission server kerfuffle. So they do what they ought to do. Communicate progress and create some level of transparency. Sure, not everyone will get the invite...how could they? And while I've spent countless hours on livestreams with the team and would love to pubcrawl with them, I never will. I don't have an audience and don't command any attention within the community. It wouldn't make sense on their end for me to take up a seat in the room. I get that...why others aren't as self-aware, I guess I'll never know.

People being "gutted" over changes to changes that haven't even changed yet...number of employees at FDev is somehow provable and dependent on subjective, perceived personal enjoyment of beta...Obsidian Ant is now apparently "toxic"....up is down and down is up. Whew.

The only way to build trust is to be trustworthy. As in, you consistently do what you say and say what you do. The only way to create a level of transparency is by communicating openly and honestly.
Here's an example of NOT building transparency:

Saying "Hey guys we invited a select few people to come see what we're working on! We aren't going to show you what we showed them and also they're not allowed to tell you what they saw!"

That's not transparency that's practically a stunt to highlight how UN-transparent you are.
Now, there's nothing WRONG with inviting a bunch of community members to preview your project and give feedback, go ahead yes great! But you're not going to slight-of-hand me into thinking you're any more (or less!) transparent/trustworthy by doing so.

P.S. I have no idea why anyone is calling OA "toxic" and I do not support that at all.

 

[Caldric]

So to be clear cause reading 37 pages isn't going to fit in my timeline today. They invited select few and the masses are not going to be shown anything? Why even make a statement if that is true?

 

[rOmiLaYu]

Now, there's nothing WRONG with inviting a bunch of community members to preview your project and give feedback, go ahead yes great! But you're not going to slight-of-hand me into thinking you're any more (or less!) transparent/trustworthy by doing so.

Fair enough, but I don't see it as prestidigitation, just publicity to which I am not yet privy. I think there's a big difference between limited release and obfuscation of information.

 

[Dutchman141]

So to be clear cause reading 37 pages isn't going to fit in my timeline today. They invited select few and the masses are not going to be shown anything? Why even make a statement if that is true?

Exactly, they put it forward as an exciting thing too.
I'm sure it was exciting to them and the invitees.....

Things like this make me even less excited.

 

[Rollo]

Here's a thing that happened ... so they were about to show us something in mining. They reckoned they knew what the reaction was gonna be so it turned out Will filmed it. Anyway, they did the thing and yeah ... the room went frickin' nuts. After the mining section ... well, you know how most everyone thinks current mining is really boring ... well the buzz around the room was "hell, when this drops I'm heading into the rings and I ain't ever gonna come back out again!" [haha]

How's that for hype?

I'm so utterly, totally sold now. Stop that now!
(to myself: should I really dare to read further on in this thread?)

I'd wager we'll get some great big kabooms! Blowing those rocks to pebbles with silly-big charges. Kaboom! COOL, heh heheheheheheh.