Then blame FD for this becaue this is going to happen anyway... the new scanner will replaced all previous ones. There won't be any basic nor intermediate anymore
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Then blame FD for this becaue this is going to happen anyway... the new scanner will replaced all previous ones. There won't be any basic nor intermediate anymore
Infinite is the way to go. Good move. It's a game, suck that up Dads. I'd be glad if they just gave infinite ammo to all conventional guns (so not torps). There was a time when everyone had infinite ammo due to a glitch. It was far more enjoyable than the current half-bummed system.
I would downgrade mine! Because I don't want unlimited probes!
My proposal is fair for everyone because everyone can chose how to play the game. Leaving probes unlimited to everyone gives no choice.
How is my proposal limiting your gameplay if you want infinite probes? You can have them and play as you like!
Then why do you want to limit other players that want a wider gameloop? I don't understand such limited and selfish visions.
If there is a chance to make everyone happy why this should be rejected at all? I don't really understand.......
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That’s a universal change, though, not something just for special cases (which would be weird).
Well I hope you aren't currently flying with an ADS since it gives you infinite scan range!
What if you dont have horizons and want limited probes?
Given how much people hate the disparity between them, that is probably for the best. The split abilities were exceedingly divisive. Frontier is attempting to reset that and make things more consistent and practical. I tend to not look a gift horse in the mouth and argue the point of why it's being a gift horse. I'll just say "thanks Frontier" and move on.
Maybe Frontier have put more thought into this than folks give them credit? They have 1.x people to consider as well as 2.x. I've been well harsh on Frontier, but I'm actually looking forward to beta and really if the one and only thing that's a bit controversial, is quite how many probes people can have, they have probably pulled a minor miracle to be fair. As opposed to a wall of threads lamenting literally everything else?
Just a thought. o7
It occurs to me now that some people here (not naming names) are likely only complaining because there isn’t anything else from the livestream to complain about. Serial whinging at its finest.
Those 17 people represent a fairly mammoth amount of the community; iirc it was player groups, youtube people, streamers, and a few independant salty dogs, so a pretty diverse cross section. I have always believed the more Frontier listen to the broader community, the better the game will get. It looks to be baring out, just quietly. Early days, though.
There's a real sense they have worked hard to meet broader community feedback (even if some practical solutions are a bit, uh, controversial). Seems like, at any rate. Beta will make that apparent. o7
Beyond is supposed to be a free updated for Horizons users. I would be happy to be able to experience the new exploration contents without paying anything. For the complete content you would need anyway to buy Horizons.
That's FD decision, not mine.
Yep I have been thinking the same thing for most of the afternoon. I am waiting for complaints about the night vision being green, or the guys in the LiveStream wearing the wrong shirts
Maybe FD in this case could also make PD and mining probes infinite- I think what is more annoying is the inconsistencies. If everything was harmonised then the voices in my head would stop.
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If they would do that, I guess it would be easier (just one intervention instead of two) to just add one or two mining lasers or replace a specified weapon.
I am wondering, how many explorers would be affected?
I can not believe it would be thousands of players ... but of course I could be wrong.
Thinking about it ... it also could be done automatically with some player help:
Ask those far-out explorers to power down and remove those weapons they want to be swapped with a mining laser from all weapon groupes.
FDev could then check for these weapons and replace them.
But this is of course just a hypothetical thought for my own enjoyment of finding solutions for not existing problems ...
I don´t like the idea of infinite probes. It´s like having ships suddenly appear in another station. That´s just not how things work. This is not a game, but a simulation, and as such, I expect a certain degree of plausibility. Shooting actual probes but having an infinite amount of them sounds just so very implausible. If FDev gives infinite probes to explorers, why not give infinite missiles and plasma to bounty hunters? It´d be basically the same thing. And even thought the initial comment sounds like someone is just mocking this awesome community, these infinite probes are actually bothering me. Come on, FDev! You can do better than this!
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Unlimited probes technically limits a skill-based game (which it was supposed to be) and limit the game loop.
You want life easy? Fair enough. The Advanced Scanner is automatically upgraded to your ship. Enjoy!
You want a wider game loop? Downgrade to intermediate scanner and you would need to collect and synthesize materials.
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You're a new player and you don't want to synthesize? It's like in the olden days... Save enough money to buy an advanced scanner and there you go. You can anyway start exploring even if you can't afford an advanced scannner. You just need an SRV and collect 2 iron and 2 nikel to refill your probes.
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I couldn´t agree more!
I have never had any issue with the range. The new scanners will have unlimited range too. I'm not criticizing that aspect.
The problem was the lack of things to do and there is a big improvement already.
Anyway... I look forward during the beta to see videos of players literally bombing planets to map them...
Exploration was supposed to be a detailed and precise activity, skill and experience rewarded, it will be another shoot and bombing stuff.
Probes could also have been small satellite to launch in a perfect orbit around the planet to collect information rather than falling and exploding if you think about it...
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