badly stuck, no way out :/

S0rkvild

S0rkvild
Arnoldo said:
Despite being asked by numerous Cmdrs that want to help, the OP has still not provided their current system. If they are >4000Ly from Sol and >1000Ly up in the roof, there's no danger to them from providing the system name.

'fraid I'm gonna leave this guy to his own devices if he don't actually want help
o7 to whoever does manage to get the info and provide an assist...
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What difference does it make? Really there are no other stars in my range besides stars I already mentioned. Simple as 2+2=4. Jump to the other system with a white dwarf only - game over. Way out with neutron star is slightly beyond my reach and that's it.

Sorry for being wary, but I simply don't want to be robbed from many discoveries I made along the way, if I hit self destruct I can fly there again and still have the glory minus things I collected earlier. Unless... you're a magician to spawn me a unit of Polonium then fine - whatever you map along the way is yours because it's the best way to pay someone else' efforts to help other commander.
 

Straha Yeagar

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Noogillim said:
Ah interesting may found long term bug

Nav panel updates closing distance to selected system as does the HUD The selected target panel does not.

But if you select something else and then reselect the system intending to jump to the recalculated distance displays correctly so now I am 22 lyr away instead of 22.35 that it was.

Maybe that caused failed jumps for others before?

Still won't know for sure until I complete this test.
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The displayed distance reflect the actual distance, but the FSD fuel usage has always been calculated based on the primary star to primary star distance as displayed in the Gal Map regardless of actual location. More power to you for testing this out again, but this idea comes up fairly regularly, and has always had the same end result. Trying to shorten the jump by supercruising closer makes no difference.

In fact, many commanders have actually flown the entire distance between stars in supercruise and to the actual location of the target star. When they get there, there is nothing there, until a jump is initiated. Said jump requires fuel calculated from the initial star.
 

Straha Yeagar

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S0rkvild said:
What difference does it make? Really there are no other stars in my range besides stars I already mentioned. Simple as 2+2=4. Jump to the other system with a white dwarf only - game over. Way out with neutron star is slightly beyond my reach and that's it.

Sorry for being wary, but I simply don't want to be robbed from many discoveries I made along the way, if I hit self destruct I can fly there again and still have the glory minus things I collected earlier. Unless... you're a magician to spawn me a unit of Polonium then fine - whatever you map along the way is yours because it's the best way to pay someone else' efforts to help other commander.
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Fair enough, and I know you have no real reason to trust me not to snipe your system out from under you. Since fuel is not an issue, and Polonium is not in any reachable systems, I will offer to scour the Gal Map around your location on the off change that something was overlooked. I will promise not to snag it if you are willing to PM me the location.

As to the WD system you are able to reach, have you already been there to see what is in the system? If not, then perhaps I could scout it out and if there is some Plutonium, you could jump there, get it, I could refuel you, and with a refuel there to get back to where you are now, and then make the jump out?
 

Noogillim

Noogillim
I know because of instancing you can't SC fly between systems I have done it in the past , but I had to use this technique in the past in my Cobra and it actually worked.

Currently my jump range seems to have stuck at 21.46 and distance to next star is 21.9 target panel has stuck again as showing 22.0 to planet (why does it do that with system lock and not ships and stations etc? - will submit bug report later)

Will leave target panel without refreshing it see if jump fails when from ship information given in cockpit says figures should work, see if it fails then refresh the target panel information and see if it works (Hey i'm an optimist!) plus this is proper bug testing ;) (I have worked on real flight simulators for over 35 years, so I know about buggy software!)
 

Noogillim

Noogillim
Just another 0.3 lyr to go before I find out either way.

Probably have around 18-20 tonnes of fuel, consumption at 1.46/hr - thing is do I risk leaving it in SC while I am out? and just hope I don't get some daft windows update or crash to desktop etc?[woah]
 

S0rkvild

S0rkvild
dubsdj said:
maybe not so much as cheat but spawn a crash site or something just to help out. I mean its not like he hasn't earned a bit of respect for doing this.
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Yes I was thinking about contacting FD support, but honestly I'd feel kinda awkward. That is not game's fault or technical issue. 'T was me... and it would be like begging for a free rebuy when you don't have money for insurance for that shiny new A-rated corvette you carelessly lost to some npc pirates ;)
 

Nick Sticks

Nick Sticks
S0rkvild said:
Yes I was thinking about contacting FD support, but honestly I'd feel kinda awkward. That is not game's fault or technical issue. 'T was me... and it would be like begging for a free rebuy when you don't have money for insurance for that shiny new A-rated corvette you carelessly lost to some npc pirates ;)
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Accept Straha's offer of help, he can be trusted.
The worst he does is fly his SRV onto your ship :D
 

Arnoldo

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S0rkvild said:
What difference does it make? Really there are no other stars in my range besides stars I already mentioned. Simple as 2+2=4. Jump to the other system with a white dwarf only - game over. Way out with neutron star is slightly beyond my reach and that's it.

Sorry for being wary, but I simply don't want to be robbed from many discoveries I made along the way, if I hit self destruct I can fly there again and still have the glory minus things I collected earlier. Unless... you're a magician to spawn me a unit of Polonium then fine - whatever you map along the way is yours because it's the best way to pay someone else' efforts to help other commander.
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The last thing I'd give a hoot about is your data or robbing you - I have >2.2mlys under my belt, >50,000 systems discovered, a 155Ly J3 Anaconda and mapping data on a 4kly journey ain't exactly gonna do much for me as I've travelled >20klys this week alone.

So far as trusting me (or other Cmdrs offering help), I do have a fairly long history on the forum that you could validate.

Anyhoo, all moot points if you are in an impossible situation. So long friend and good luck.
 

pippo

pippo
Numenor1379 said:
I hate to say it, but I'm pretty sure you're screwed. =/
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I think he might be right, you know...

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Morbad

Morbad
dubsdj said:
maybe not so much as cheat but spawn a crash site or something just to help out. I mean its not like he hasn't earned a bit of respect for doing this.
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He messed up by pushing the limits of what jumps were possible with his loadout and not bringing enough polonium. Having a deus ex machnina from the hand of Frontier just cheapens everyone else's planning and foresight, not to mention those who lost their vessels when they messed up.

Noogillim said:
I am currently sitting at 2001c I targeted a star my ship can't jump to even empty - currently whittling it down knocked off 0.2 lyr sofar downside is rough calculations reckons another 4-5 hours at this untill I can get in jump range.

I have done it before no matter what others may say, it was however several versions back so things may have changed.
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We've never actually been able to get closer to another system for the purposes of making a jump via travelling in SC. You can only lighten your vessel by burning excess fuel.

S0rkvild said:
What difference does it make? Really there are no other stars in my range besides stars I already mentioned. Simple as 2+2=4. Jump to the other system with a white dwarf only - game over. Way out with neutron star is slightly beyond my reach and that's it.
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Any planets with polonium in the white dwarf system?

If there is even a chance of it, take it, cause someone can bring you fuel there.
 

Rudi Raumkraut

Rudi Raumkraut
S0rkvild said:
What difference does it make? Really there are no other stars in my range besides stars I already mentioned. Simple as 2+2=4. Jump to the other system with a white dwarf only - game over. Way out with neutron star is slightly beyond my reach and that's it.

Sorry for being wary, but I simply don't want to be robbed from many discoveries I made along the way, if I hit self destruct I can fly there again and still have the glory minus things I collected earlier. Unless... you're a magician to spawn me a unit of Polonium then fine - whatever you map along the way is yours because it's the best way to pay someone else' efforts to help other commander.
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The difference is simple (to me).
"This guy is possibly going to die and asked for help.
But out of greed he isnt able to provide the info a potential helping hand needs and asked for.
Well...simple... let him die" :p
 

S0rkvild

S0rkvild
Easy guys, I really appreciate you readiness to help. Right now I'm working with Straha Yeagar, he's on the way. We will see what can be done and if something can be done collectively this thing will definitely go public. Nevertheless I will appreciate all useful comments and solution ideas.
 

Speccy

Speccy
Gully_Foyle said:
As far as I know, FD won't help players cheat ....

His best bet is wait for 3.3 to drop. His mass will go down enough I think to make that extra 2 ly jumprange.
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Yep, both the ADS and DSS will be massless. Should hopefully reduce the weight enough.
 

Noogillim

Noogillim
Back in game and as suspected earlier functioning jump by distance is NOT working.


My current jump range is 21.61 lyr the distance to the target system is 21.5 lyr.

So it looks like the gal map system distances are the things that are hardwired into the FSD not the actual distances.

To my mind that is a bug.

Happy to prove it is still the case (rather it wasn't but we can approach FD with hard data)
 

iain666

iain666
S0rkvild said:
Regarding supercruise shortening of distance...

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/4x7j3l/how_long_does_it_take_to_travel_367ly_in/

No clear opinion on the subject. Some say yes, some say no...
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The people who say no are correct though. People have jumped to Semotus Beacon and then flown in SC to get more than an additional 150ly from Sol. They came home.

To put that another way, if the distance in SC effected the distance for a jump then Kenneth would've had to jump more than 200ly in a Cutter which scraped 41.4ly on fumes.

Unless people are suggesting that supercruise flight can shorten hyperspace distance but cannot lengthen it?

Noogillim said:
To my mind that is a bug.
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It's only a bug if it's not as designed.
 
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