How much was lep and what have they gotten out of it so far? I'm a little sympathetic to owners, even though I've probably pumped in a couple hundred bucks after the fact it doesn't seem like lep owners have much more than a brand new player today forking over 20 bucks for elite/horizons humble bundle today.
Not to sound ungrateful, but no love for LEP?
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Ex Military.
You screw up, your whole group pays the price.
Why? Because you should keep each other in line AND consider how your actions will affect others. Case in point: You like to blare your music. Nobody else in your group minds, but this is a violation of regulations. You’re deployed in a combat zone, and continue to blare your music. The enemy can hear your noise at night and uses it to pinpoint your location and shells your camp, killing most of your group. You survive, but have to live with the knowledge you were responsible for this because you can’t follow regulations.
Had your entire group been punished before this, at least one of them may have had the sense to say: “Turn that down before it gives away our position.”
Frontier did not say premium content is coming in 2019.
After the assurance that it was coming in 2018 did not come to pass they were very careful not to commit to 2019.
You're not in a war zone.
It is a forum about a computer game.
The topic is about a company taking a bunch of people's money and not delivering much for it, nothing to do with the army.
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Yes to all of this, and the last line neatly sums up my irritation with this topic.
Seconded, even though one could argue that tag is implicit in any thread...
Between £30 and £50 during Kickstarter and early development, depending on backing tier.
£120 if purchased in August 2015, when the LEP was temporarily available for purchase again.
For clarity, LEP rewards so far:
That's beside the point though. The issue is some people are worried Frontier will pull some shady move where they rename "Seasons" into something else and make them pay for it despite their LEP. That's not going to happen - as I said, the first batches of LEP were sold back when will still had no idea how Frontier would sell further expansions, and neither did they, and the LEPs reflected that fact. Then Frontier decided Season passes would be the way to go, and the LEP sold at that time reflected that, but they're still the same thing - a lifelong guarantee you wont have to pay for future expansions to the game, no matter how Frontier decides to distribute them - Season passes, piecemeal, full blown releases at the end of the year, or free for all but with microtransactions funding the whole thing.
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I think most are not angry at all.
For extra clarity it's worth pointing out that all the LEP rewards were exactly the same as the Horizons Beta rewards.
Meaning LEP = Horizons Beta.
But everyone reading this thread knows all this anyway.
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They have delivered. They are still delivering and we know there's more to come.
Sorry, couldn't resist...
[video=youtube;cAYnwsKzIGA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAYnwsKzIGA[/video]
As I recall, it was stated in the Livestream when they told us about the delay of the Carrier content, probably a couple of month ago now.
Thnx for the reply fella, will go have a re-watch someday soon and see if I can catch it.
They have not delivered, and we do not know when something is coming.
We have some vague assurance from a company who failed to deliver on their last assurance. (and many assurances before that)
I know you can't help yourself, but at this point there's no reason anyone would take Frontier on their word.
I don't think Frontier do it intentionally, I don't think it's malicious, I just think Frontier repeatedly sign themselves up for things they are unable to deliver.
For clarity black Friday paint jobs were a reward for Horizons pre order not for LEP. Just all those that purchased LEP at that time were considered as having pre ordered horizons and thus received the reward also.
Please source it, because at that time I was watching very carefully and it was notable that they intentionally avoided commiting to a 2019 release date for premium content.
I'm saying as far as I know, Frontier saying 2019 for PC is just not true.
Incorrect. Owning Horizons Beta (access to all 2.x betas) didn't give access to all 1.x betas (1.0 through 1.9), whereas owning the LEP did.
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On this:
You seem to be advising people that they should avoid payment in advance.
Yet here:
On this:
You seem to be advising people that they should avoid payment in advance.
Yet here:
You seem unhappy that FD are moving away from payment in advance. Could you clarify?
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I don't even know what that is, you mean the non-Horizons betas? If so what is the point of that, 1.x being a subset of 2.x.
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