The Star Citizen Thread v9

Cobra1984

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Mole HD said:
A bit long winded and rambling...but interesting.
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It's very interesting.

Boredgamer has commented in support of both of these videos, the Leonard French one and this other guy. Both these guys are completely 100% wrong about the case being dismissed.

And comments on Leonard French's video pointing out that he's wrong have been deleted - including an entire thread that was removed that hilariously someone has screenshotted and it's in the video there at 50mins.

I know of one person who posted a lengthy comment on one of these videos that was deleted as well.

The actual schedule for discovery is right there, pre-trial meeting in Jan 2019, cutoff for discovery Aug 2019. 4 out of 6 claims going ahead. Leave to amend the others.

As I have said before these youtube lawyer guys are after patreon money, the both of them are wrong, like telling backers the polar opposite of the truth.

And you have Boredgamer lending his support as an influencer too.

What more do you need.

What more could you possibly need in order to see what it all is.
 

Mole HD

Mole HD
sovapid said:
Even when 3.4 drops, youre still gonna have most of the same issues. Maybe box missions will work. You'll get your Freelancer Max. And the new building in Loreville, but it seemed like you were avoiding Loreville.

Are you not getting the option to recover on most of your crashes?

The only reason I've been jumping in lately is for Jump Town shenanigans.
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Sometimes recovery works...sometimes it doesn't. It depends on how the client exits or what bug has dumped me waking up in Levski/Olisar/Grimm with no ship or cargo. Sometimes the ship is classed as 'stored' at an outpost which of course is a bug since you can't recover a ship at an outpost as it has no hangars...meaning a claim, which loses the cargo, ship upgrades and credits tied to the cargo.

I've got a fair bit of UEC tied to my account, so I'll recover credits with the next patch...but I sure would love at least some way to occupy myself outside of Jumptown raids...a few working missions would be nice ;)

I haven't been avoiding Lorville per se...I do like roaming around Hurston or the moons, trading between Hurston and Crusader since I don't mind the QT time...but there's no real reason to visit Lorville itself bar topping up on the 3 bits of armour I can't buy elsewhere...there are no missions or gameplay to be had lurching around there...with the added bonanza if the client crashes or I die...I've got the daily commute to look forward to until I escape.

...But I do want to see my Max in the flesh with 3.4...it's been a long 3 years imagining it :)
 
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Mole HD

Mole HD
Cobra1984 said:
It's very interesting.

Boredgamer has commented in support of both of these videos, the Leonard French one and this other guy. Both these guys are completely 100% wrong about the case being dismissed.

And comments on Leonard French's video pointing out that he's wrong have been deleted - including an entire thread that was removed that hilariously someone has screenshotted and it's in the video there at 50mins.

I know of one person who posted a lengthy comment on one of these videos that was deleted as well.

The actual schedule for discovery is right there, pre-trial meeting in Jan 2019, cutoff for discovery Aug 2019. 4 out of 6 claims going ahead. Leave to amend the others.

As I have said before these youtube lawyer guys are after patreon money, the both of them are wrong, like telling backers the polar opposite of the truth.

And you have Boredgamer lending his support as an influencer too.

What more do you need.

What more could you possibly need in order to see what it all is.
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I watched as much of Bored Gamers stream as I could stomach...which wasn't much :) His enthusiasm and 'everything will be fine' attitude has always irritated me... a pure vision of someone who just can't see the wood for the trees...not as bad as Montoya...but that guy is a very speshul case all on his own [where is it]
 

sovapid

sovapid
Cobra1984 said:
It's very interesting.

Boredgamer has commented in support of both of these videos, the Leonard French one and this other guy. Both these guys are completely 100% wrong about the case being dismissed.

And comments on Leonard French's video pointing out that he's wrong have been deleted - including an entire thread that was removed that hilariously someone has screenshotted and it's in the video there at 50mins.

I know of one person who posted a lengthy comment on one of these videos that was deleted as well.

The actual schedule for discovery is right there, pre-trial meeting in Jan 2019, cutoff for discovery Aug 2019. 4 out of 6 claims going ahead. Leave to amend the others.

As I have said before these youtube lawyer guys are after patreon money, the both of them are wrong, like telling backers the polar opposite of the truth.

And you have Boredgamer lending his support as an influencer too.

What more do you need.

What more could you possibly need in order to see what it all is.
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I agree with you that there is some premature celebration going on in the SC circles. CIG was successful getting everything dismissed in the 2nd motion to dismiss, but that motion to dismiss did not cover all of the issues present in the case.

However, I'd say the internet lawyers aren't all that invested and have forgotten about the other claims.
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
sovapid said:
I agree with you that there is some premature celebration going on in the SC circles. CIG was successful getting everything dismissed in the 2nd motion to dismiss, but that motion to dismiss did not cover all of the issues present in the case.

However, I'd say the internet lawyers aren't all that invested and have forgotten about the other claims.
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Leonard thanked SC fans profusely for sending money to fix his car. That should tell you quite a bit about how invested he is. And how successful his career is. ;)
 

Tippis

Tippis
sovapid said:
However, I'd say the internet lawyers aren't all that invested and have forgotten about the other claims.
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Oh, they're invested alright. In making sure their Patreon dollars keep rolling in by telling the audience what it wants to hear and nothing else. [haha]

Granted, there's also the issue that any legal professional with a high degree of competence in IP and contract law is quite likely to find themselves in a ridiculously-paid law-firm partner position as opposed to youtube pan handling, which might also affect what kind of conclusions these guys will draw based on plain language…

e:f;b, but the point still stands.
 
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Cobra1984

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sleutelbos said:
Leonard thanked SC fans profusely for sending money to fix his car. That should tell you quite a bit about how invested he is. And how successful his career is. ;)
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Didn't know that.

Easy money, lie right to their faces.

Edit - do you have a link or source for that?
 
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sovapid

sovapid
Hmmmm.....

French is saying in his Discord that the 2nd Amended Complaint replaces the original complaints. And since everything in the 2nd Amended Complaint was dismissed, the case is effectively over.

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Cobra1984

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sovapid said:
Hmmmm.....

French is saying in his Discord that the 2nd Amended Complaint replaces the original complaints. And since everything in the 2nd Amended Complaint was dismissed, the case is effectively over.
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Yes, he posted that in youtube comments too, and was linked the ENTIRE DOCUMENT, and then he deleted the whole thread.

Edit - the screenshot of which was sent to the warlord and is at 50mins in his video.
 
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Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Cobra1984 said:
Yes, he posted that in youtube comments too, and was linked the ENTIRE DOCUMENT, and then he deleted the whole thread.
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It is not the first time this happened. He previously retracted statements he made claiming he hadn't been able to read the entire document. I guess he doesnt want to look this incompetent again. Kinda feel sorry for hi, doesn't look like 2018 was his year.
 

ianw

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sovapid said:
Hmmmm.....

French is saying in his Discord that the 2nd Amended Complaint replaces the original complaints. And since everything in the 2nd Amended Complaint was dismissed, the case is effectively over.
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That Discord comment seems rather ambiguous.

Is he talking about replacing the 1st complaint in relation to the promoting etc. bit of the MTD with leave to amend on that bit.

Or is he - as many seem to be interpreting - saying that the 2nd complaint replaced all the points that were denied as well not just the promoting bit?

It's confusing but the latest thing seemed to refer to one bit of the complaint only.

And then he finishes up by saying it's getting whittled down to the main issues - then says it was a bit final - again not being specific.

Clear as mud!
 

Tuub t Tute

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Yup, unclear... but my reading is he is trying to clarify that the second amended submission did not allow Crytek to add more complaints, only to clarify that specific complaint.

By saying "whittled down" he is admitting that this granting is not closing the whole case, only this complaint; but still with a final leave to submit an amendment.

Whether he is deliberately being all lawyerish and allowing a statement that people can read into what they want; or whether it is an unfortunate choice of phrasing, i cannot say with any certainty!
 

Number2

Number2
Mad Mike said:
to each their own....... you are wrong of course... .but to each their own ;)

joking aside i would have had my fill of elite 100s of hrs ago had it not been for VR. For me games like elite, ETS2/ATS and any car racing game are VR or nothing for me now. its as important a tool as a wheel is for a racing game or a hotas is for a flight sim for me.

it is my main reason i looked into getting a refund on SC 3 or so months back (I failed). (there were a couple of other issues but my doubts of vr support was the main one)
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I think that ED in VR is one of the best games I have ever played. I even played skyrim from the begining again for 100 hours plus in VR.


I am worried that VR may have stalled as no new really good games that attract me seem to be being released or even close to release.

If SC ever gets VR which I doubt we will be on the 3rd or 4th generation of headsets.
 
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Cobra1984

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Cobra1984 said:
Yes, he posted that in youtube comments too, and was linked the ENTIRE DOCUMENT, and then he deleted the whole thread.

Edit - the screenshot of which was sent to the warlord and is at 50mins in his video.
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Another piece of confirmation on this follows:

Source:
https://www.ammlaw.com/blog/to-amend-or-not-to-amend-the-third-circuit-answers-the-question.html

"The Court found that an amended pleading supersedes an original pleading, and parties are free to correct inaccuracies in pleadings by amendment. The Court noted that the original pleading is of no effect unless the amended complaint specifically refers to or adopts the original pleading. In this way, the amended pleading results in “withdrawal by amendment” of the judicial admission."


There is no 'withdrawal by amendment', the second amended complaint has no effect on the first one.

It is continuing to discovery and trial unless it is settled. The two youtube lawyers are absolutely wrong.

There's a very clear picture of those critical of the project publically coming under attack - and those supportive *even when they are blatantly lying* being supported monetarily.

So there you go, make your own mind up.
 

sovapid

sovapid
Cobra1984 said:
Another piece of confirmation on this follows:

Source:
https://www.ammlaw.com/blog/to-amend-or-not-to-amend-the-third-circuit-answers-the-question.html

"The Court found that an amended pleading supersedes an original pleading, and parties are free to correct inaccuracies in pleadings by amendment. The Court noted that the original pleading is of no effect unless the amended complaint specifically refers to or adopts the original pleading. In this way, the amended pleading results in “withdrawal by amendment” of the judicial admission."


There is no 'withdrawal by amendment', the second amended complaint has no effect on the first one.

It is continuing to discovery and trial unless it is settled. The two youtube lawyers are absolutely wrong.

There's a very clear picture of those critical of the project publically coming under attack - and those supportive *even when they are blatantly lying* being supported monetarily.

So there you go, make your own mind up.
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Your link and quote indicate the 2nd Amended Complaint completely replaces the first one. Unless the new complaint includes the old arguments/issues, they no longer exist.

Not sure how you are coming to your conclusion.

Plaintiff should note that when an amended complaint is filed, it supersedes the original and renders it of no legal effect, unless the amended complaint specifically refers to or adopts the earlier pleading.
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