Did you do an fss scan?
On the Alien archeology thread we are discussing the lack of beacons that were supposedly deployed by the Dynasty ships, but have never been found
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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Did you do an fss scan?
On the Alien archeology thread we are discussing the lack of beacons that were supposedly deployed by the Dynasty ships, but have never been found
I think we might need to take a small step back here and look at this from the basics.
1. I don’t think there’s going to be literal clues to specific systems like analyzing sonnets or converting letters to numbers, etc. they specifically said there wouldn’t be clues. Besides, player groups like cannon that use visual spectrum analyzers on unknown probes would have found stuff like that long ago. Though this could mean there won’t be additional clues, as in everything needed is already in game. (I sure hope they wouldn’t rely too much on obsolete books and whatnot, but frontier loves making people rely on out of game resources)
2. there’s no point actually putting it in the game if it’s not ever supposed to be found. And without some sign saying “Raxxla” or some indication of a gateway it’s not likely to be found if you can’t actually tell it’s the right place.
3. FD also said “we know WHERE it is.” Not “we know HOW to find it.” Implying it is in a specific location.
4. Based on how old those statements are, it must have been put into the game before any mechanic for moving things relatively automatically like megaships.
5. Whenever it’s referred to literally it’s referred to as a planet. So metaphorical places (ie it’s a journey, state of mind, etc) are less likely.
6. The new discovery tools should be a massive help. I’m at the zurara right now and noticed the human signal doesn’t pop up until you’re within 2-3 ls of the ship but does show up (even outside 1000ls) with the FSS. So anything reasonably recognizable should be much easier to find now that we don’t have to scour planets with our eyes inch by inch to find stuff.
7. When people were finding megaships every other day one of the ways they did it was by determining how far they could get with sub-light engines, so FD does take that sort of thing into account sometimes, and since there are stories going way back of people figuring out where Raxxla is before going back to the bubble and planning to go back, it must be reasonably close (ie, not on the opposite side of the galaxy) although the zurara itself seems further out than it should have been able to get.
8. Last but not least, FD or DB at least seems to have a fascination with Greek mythology. That’s a super broad topic, so while that might be an influence here, it’s next to impossible to work from the mythology to the game. We really have to go from the game to the mythology, which requires a clue, which we likely won’t get. So there’s not much point going in that direction either.
It’s probably more helpful to try and focus on the basics rather than assume every word in the game is a subtle clue. At least that’s what I’m trying to do.
1. I don’t think there’s going to be literal clues to specific systems like analyzing sonnets or converting letters to numbers, etc. they specifically said there wouldn’t be clues. Besides, player groups like cannon that use visual spectrum analyzers on unknown probes would have found stuff like that long ago. Though this could mean there won’t be additional clues, as in everything needed is already in game. (I sure hope they wouldn’t rely too much on obsolete books and whatnot, but frontier loves making people rely on out of game resources)
2. there’s no point actually putting it in the game if it’s not ever supposed to be found. And without some sign saying “Raxxla” or some indication of a gateway it’s not likely to be found if you can’t actually tell it’s the right place.
3. FD also said “we know WHERE it is.” Not “we know HOW to find it.” Implying it is in a specific location.
4. Based on how old those statements are, it must have been put into the game before any mechanic for moving things relatively automatically like megaships.
5. Whenever it’s referred to literally it’s referred to as a planet. So metaphorical places (ie it’s a journey, state of mind, etc) are less likely.
6. The new discovery tools should be a massive help. I’m at the zurara right now and noticed the human signal doesn’t pop up until you’re within 2-3 ls of the ship but does show up (even outside 1000ls) with the FSS. So anything reasonably recognizable should be much easier to find now that we don’t have to scour planets with our eyes inch by inch to find stuff.
7. When people were finding megaships every other day one of the ways they did it was by determining how far they could get with sub-light engines, so FD does take that sort of thing into account sometimes, and since there are stories going way back of people figuring out where Raxxla is before going back to the bubble and planning to go back, it must be reasonably close (ie, not on the opposite side of the galaxy) although the zurara itself seems further out than it should have been able to get.
8. Last but not least, FD or DB at least seems to have a fascination with Greek mythology. That’s a super broad topic, so while that might be an influence here, it’s next to impossible to work from the mythology to the game. We really have to go from the game to the mythology, which requires a clue, which we likely won’t get. So there’s not much point going in that direction either.
It’s probably more helpful to try and focus on the basics rather than assume every word in the game is a subtle clue. At least that’s what I’m trying to do.
Also, has a real rogue planet ever been found in elite dangerous? People seem to constantly misunderstand what a rogue planet is.
Every claim I’ve seen is just a planet orbiting a center of gravity that’s between binary stars, not an actual rogue planet.
Every claim I’ve seen is just a planet orbiting a center of gravity that’s between binary stars, not an actual rogue planet.
Just reviewing the zurara logs from Rebecca. Seems relatively clear the zurara is in the same boat as the other generation ships, backup locations to escape to in the event of a thargoid invasion of the bubble. There are only two interesting things of note if Raxxla and the thargoids/zurara have anything to do with each other. (Which they may not)
1. The zurara logs say they left beacons around EL/Terraformable worlds that so far as I’ve heard haven’t ever been found to actually exist yet.
2. Rebecca says that the answers to why and who are “back in the core(bubble), not out here” and she went straight from the zurara back to the bubble.
Considering how little of the galaxy has been discovered, if the quote of FD being surprised it hasn’t been found (without clues mind you) is real and refers to Raxxla then it must be closer to the bubble or a popular general area/destination. But that hinges on that quote being real.
1. The zurara logs say they left beacons around EL/Terraformable worlds that so far as I’ve heard haven’t ever been found to actually exist yet.
2. Rebecca says that the answers to why and who are “back in the core(bubble), not out here” and she went straight from the zurara back to the bubble.
Considering how little of the galaxy has been discovered, if the quote of FD being surprised it hasn’t been found (without clues mind you) is real and refers to Raxxla then it must be closer to the bubble or a popular general area/destination. But that hinges on that quote being real.
1) That's plain wrong. Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars is a DEFINITE reference to a real-world set of sonnets, and the clues found there have led us from Zeta Cassiopeiae, to NGC 7822, to Heart and Soul. There is absolutely clues and a path. I think by clues, they meant easy help from the devs in case we fail, pick-me-ups, freebies, etc.
5) if you read the Raxxla Codex article, it says "...The earliest documented stories tend to agree on several points, however: that Raxxla is a definite place, and that it holds a mythical secret."
I'm taking everything in the Codex to be law. I just don't have enough to go on, otherwise, and our search has borne fruit.
7) I also believe Raxxla is within close range of the Bubble, but I don't think all of the clues to it have to be in the bubble as well.
8) We have the Omphalos Rift, Delphi, Cassiopeia/Andromeda so far, and we've used those hints to get us to where we are so far. There are a lot of possible leads to investigate, even now. Greek mythology is huge, but we need only to investigate those parts of it which have some link to Raxxla, such as the more obvious "Mother of Galaxies" (Cassiopeiae).
Sorry man, I totally disagree with you. Read from page 303, CMDR Guru's comment. He's kicking with it, I'm just trying to begin where he's left off.
The Cat's Eye nebula doesn't have a star on GalMap. Could this be a clue, somehow?
"As that sweet black which veils the heav'nly eye:"
I don't know about sweet black, but it's blue, and the star either isn't there on GalMap because you can't go there, or it is obscured - or hidden beyond a veil.
Just so I'm not crazy, is there any other place called "eye" in the galaxy?
"As that sweet black which veils the heav'nly eye:"
I don't know about sweet black, but it's blue, and the star either isn't there on GalMap because you can't go there, or it is obscured - or hidden beyond a veil.
Just so I'm not crazy, is there any other place called "eye" in the galaxy?
Don't follow me, I'm lost.
You came up with some really good leads. I'm here, at the moment:
> Find any connection to the Dark Wheel. It's likely that we'll need their help in order to unravel the mystery. The only clue we have is that their dark, toroid station orbits the eighth moon of a gas giant. It might be able to be located via FSS, or else we'll need to really get in bed with their faction, get to Allied status, maybe be Elite, and see if their decoy can be of any use to us.
> Investigate sonnet 9. IRL, it's a description of Stella's wonderful face, but when Stella is a (group of?) spiralling star(s), it is likely a description of our destination.
"Hath his front built of Alabaster pure;"
The front of the system/nebula/location is a bright white, very likely A-class stars, maybe O/B. This can be a whole lot of nebulae, especially NGC 7822 and H&S.
"Gold is the covering of that stately place."
What covers things in space? Light, and, err.... dirt? I'm going to assume light, so the system we're looking for has a golden light - characteristic of class G stars. If this is the case, that's a good chance for Raxxla to be atmospheric, maybe an Earth-Like.
"The doore by which sometimes comes forth her Grace, Red Porphir is, which locke of pearl makes sure:"
IRL the door was her lips, a red-purple color. I'd like to remind you all of the phrase "The door is also the key", a phrase mentioned by old, discontinued elite explorer missions a few years ago. We know the door is going to be red-purple. Is the door the Omphalos Rift? Is it the planet, Raxxla? I'm a little bit stumped by this.
"Whose porches rich (which name of cheeks endure) Marble mixt red and white do enterlace."
IRL, Stella had bright white yet rosy cheeks, and I have no idea what that means in the context of the game. Maybe the red could be the nebula's color? That would make Heart and Soul good candidates, having many bright O/B/As nearby and being reddish-brown in color, but that description could likely apply to many nebulae all around the galaxy.
"The windowes now through which this heav'nly guest Looks over the world, and can find nothing such, Which dare claime from those lights the name of best."
Stella's eyes are the most beautiful of all. The rest of the sonnet seems to be pushing this. Are there a pair of (or even a single) star(s) that most people consider to be more important, and/or more beautiful than any others? Maybe Polaris/Deneb? But those wouldn't look like two eyes, being so far apart...
Eye(s) are mentioned in both this sonnet (9), and 20. I really wonder if it's trying to point us at Cat's Eye, but it's so far from anything else, I completely doubt we can get there. Then again... Cat's Eye doesn't have a star on GalMap. This could mean either that we are never intended to go there, or the nebula obscures it... or perhaps we aren't meant to go there. tinfoil
> Find the heavenly eye from A&S Sonnet 20, assuming it is a star, the only spherical object I can think of looking for. Also, danger - from https://www.gradesaver.com/astrophil-and-stella/study-guide/summary-sonnets-1-31 -
"20. In this sonnet, Astrophel describes the process of falling in love with Stella, an action that begins with the poet's first sight of her. He is ambushed by Cupid, hiding in Stella's lovely, black eyes. Through each of Stella's glances toward him, Astrophel is attacked by Cupid's darts. Though he sees the darts coming toward him ("motions of lightning' grace"), he is unable to escape before they pierce his heart."
If this ambush is meant to represent a truly deadly ambush in the game, it could mean that there are people (Dark Wheel? The Club? Evil Cabal?) waiting for you at the location from sonnet 9. Uh oh.
Otherwise, I have a feeling that stars can't really 'glance towards you' - as they shine equally in all directions - except for two: white dwarves and neutron stars. If the 'glance' could be your ship being above/below the poles of one of these stars, the motions of lightning's grace could be the jet cones.
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There's more stuff regarding the tale of the Omphalos stone on Delphi and the two Eagles, but I have no idea how to investigate that. You could try flying to Eagle Eye Six and snooping around (Delphi system), but I don't have too much faith in that working out.
CMDRs I have hit an all time low. I spent an hour trying to align systems in the galmap to spell RAXXLA. Thought I was on to something with a few.
Thinking spell it out and the location you're at could contain some clue. Didn't work. Maybe I should tinfoil the take off hat hours few a for.
Thinking spell it out and the location you're at could contain some clue. Didn't work. Maybe I should tinfoil the take off hat hours few a for.
From A&S sonnet 20: "That sweet black which veils thye heavenly eye..."
Veil... VEIL NEBULAE! There's two: Veil east and Veil west. Anyone close by? See if you can find any other clues?
Veil nebula east is more red and is darker, fitting the "Red Porphir" from sonnet 9.
Addendum: The only system I see engulfed by the Veil east nebula is the Veil East sector RO-Q B5-2.
Veil... VEIL NEBULAE! There's two: Veil east and Veil west. Anyone close by? See if you can find any other clues?
Veil nebula east is more red and is darker, fitting the "Red Porphir" from sonnet 9.
Addendum: The only system I see engulfed by the Veil east nebula is the Veil East sector RO-Q B5-2.
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Thats a solid lead. Something tells me heart and soul too.
Just so happens thats where I am right now (logged out for festivities but will be there...soon).
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CMDR Hagglebeard, have you ever been to Alioth? Remember to bring holy water.
Nut eat a star.
It's probably somewhere in the great snake divided by 42.
Nut eat a star.
It's probably somewhere in the great snake divided by 42.
Couldnt keep away, logged quickly back in and a few jumps later...nope nothing, system already scanned and mapped, nothing weird here.
Going to map the nebula whilst I'm here, it seemed a likely candidate to me also, rule this one out.
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Hagglebeard, you missed this one vital clue.
"For eyes that can see" is obvious to mean OPEN eyes.
Raxxla can only be found in open, you need to check all your systems in open.
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Be sure to pay special attention to gas giants with >=8 moons. There are instances in game where you can only detect signals within a couple of light seconds (Zurara), so if you see a moon that fits the description given in the dark wheel codex entry, be sure to surface scan and get real close.
Roger that - currently back at work but if/when back here I'm going to give them everything, open/flybys etc.
On my travels I have noticed that close orbit signals do appear on the fss, although likewise even with full exploration modules additional bodies also sometimes ping up when you fly out of system. Not sure if that' bugged or intentional.
One thing that has always left me uncertain is what if Raxxlas bugged...what if we've already found it but cant see it due to some unknown flaw.
Never the less it's enough of an objective to make exploration tantalising again.
"Hang the treasure! It's the glory of the sea that has turned my head".
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It won't hurt but I'm pretty sure it's a fundamental tenet of ED that everything is available to all modes of play.