The Quest To Find Raxxla

Savalis

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AegisXOR said:
Alright, here is my most foil-flavored post yet. But as they say, you need to know your enemy to defeat him.

Let's assume, for a moment, the viewpoint of a powerful shadow organization, that can get whatever it wants or needs through myriad agents and connections throughout humanity.

If you were in control of Raxxla, and realized its power, you would want to hide it, right?

But let's assume that Raxxla is a "celestial body". Or perhaps it is an artifact too massive or integrated to be removed from its "host planet."

How do you hide a planet?

Could you put it somewhere else? Old-school hyperspace might be able to open a gate big enough. But there's no propulsion system in existence that could actually push an entire planet through.

Could you hide it from ship computers? You could probably pull strings at Universal Cartographics and have it blacklisted, but that seems like a security risk, doesn't it? Someone at UC could defect and expose you, or hell, even an independent pilot might be able to figure out there is interference with their navigation systems.

But what if...? You gather your most trusted and knowledgeable engineers from around the galaxy. You make some... questionable modifications to FSD technology, possibly using Thargoid materials. You set up an array of frame shift drives, running harmonically, all across Raxxla. A "planetary FSD", if you will. But you're not trying to move it anywhere. That would be ridiculous, and the energy costs untenable. Instead of compressing space ahead and expanding space behind, each FSD is only concerned with compressing the space in front of it. As much as possible. Beyond safety limits... If you wrenched hard enough on the shell of space surrounding Raxxla, you might be able to tie a knot in it, or bring it together into a singularity.

TL;DR: I think Raxxla may appear to be a black hole, that somebody brave needs to point a FSD Interdictor at...
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I'll do you one better. What if Raxxla is hovering in witchspace as the Thargoids do? If CMDRGURU's on the right path, maybe Maia's BH is the gate to Raxxla, if the lensing experiments don't pan out. Another interesting line of thinking there is to line up the BH's lensing effect with Delphi as his group did with Barnard's Loop.

This could line up with the "Siren of the deepest void" line of the DW toast.

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Spaceman Si

Spaceman Si
Armstrong said:
I'm heading to Rasalgethi, another red supergiant, to see whether it occurs here too.
Edit: Can confirm it happens at Rasalgethi too: https://i.imgur.com/LgONE5i.jpg
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Probably OT, but was there anything odd about Rasalgethi that you noticed when you were there?

It should be a semi-variable star, with stellar gas shells visible out to about 90 AU. If it just looked "normal", then that is another tick for the "Variable stars are either omitted or implemented as standard stars" hypothesis that I'm developing...
 

Scytale

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Sorry guys, but can't help adding my five to the tin-mess this Quest has become. :p

So don't forget Macros' Smurf's Planet !
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Almost there !

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Jorki Rasalas said:
. Now to deal with pestering dog; ah it's his lunchtime!
But he doesn't understand the needs of spaceship piloting, nor does the ship's cat...
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Easy fix, one shot two birds: get the dog eat the cat or the opposite as I suspect the first being a Yorkshire Terrier and the last a Garfield-like.:p
 
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ironshirt

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For those of you who haven't already noticed - The Dark Wheel faction indeed expanded to LFT 926.
They now appear on the mission boards there.
The ground bases however show The Pilots Federation Local Branch as the controlling faction (2 of the 3 bases).
I guess this might be a bug and due to the changes FDEV once made to Jameson Memorial in Shinrarta D, which was controlled by TDW for a long time, but now has TPFLB as controlling faction.

While TDW is currently in war, for the first time ever (as far as I remember) this is a really good oportunity to test, if getting hostile to them (for at least some weeks) leads to something.
In my opinion, getting hostile to them has always been much more difficult than getting allied. And I think most, if not all of CMDRs have never tried it?
 

Neural

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Savalis said:
I'll do you one better. What if Raxxla is hovering in witchspace as the Thargoids do? If CMDRGURU's on the right path, maybe Maia's BH is the gate to Raxxla, if the lensing experiments don't pan out. Another interesting line of thinking there is to line up the BH's lensing effect with Delphi as his group did with Barnard's Loop.

This could line up with the "Siren of the deepest void" line of the DW toast.

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I'll do you one better. WHY is Raxxla?!

Anyway, I was watching one of the links in the original post of this thread and the guy said it's a journey every commander will have to take themselves.

What if there are a number of variables each persons will need to make true for any single person to get near Raxxla? There are a few obvious ones that won't hurt to do, e.g. triple elite, allied with TDW, max rank with Feds and Imps (because it could be an inter-faction conspiracy).

Thoughts?
 
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CyberTribe

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Neural said:
I'll do you one better. WHY is Raxxla?!

Anyway, I was watching one of the links in the original post of this thread and the guy said it's a journey every commander will have to take themselves.

What if there are a number of variables each persons will need to make true for any single person to get near Raxxla? There are a few obvious ones that won't hurt to do, e.g. triple elite, allied with TDW, max rank with Feds and Imps (because it could be an inter-faction conspiracy).

Thoughts?
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Relly dunno it's about 3E/4E and all that - the same as mostly every other narrative that includes searching for something outthere in the void (like the Fromidine rift, 4 example).
Might need to be allied with DW faction (and at least one E in that case).

Main question is, at least for me, how to find the keys.

Like, we know that that DW toast might be some kind of a path to follow, but until now we have no positive confirmation that we are on the right path.
Same goes with Astrophel and all that.
Nothing ingame until now did give us some positive feedback about being on the right path or even looking in the right direction. No listening posts, land crashsites, nothing at all. And it's either designed that way intentionaly (because why not give a really hard quest?), bugged (Hello Frontier, we know you well), not implemented yet (might be a narative for next chapter at all?), or we are looking in the wrong direction.

Also, we don't know if we are looking for Raxxla itself (remember - there is The Club, which for sure does know where Raxxla is and most likely uses it), or for a way to join Dark Wheel in their quest to find a way to access Raxxla (they might already know more then we do, might even know where exactly Raxxla is, and all that info must be located on that DW-station, which we know from their CODEX article).

So for me that quest looks like:
1. Find a key to follow the right path from DW-toast, and in the end find a way to join their "inner circle" and get invited to visit that secret station (or maybe that path will lead us to it?).
2. With that new information find a way to Raxxla. Or may be even fight a way to Raxxla, who knows.

Considering we might be 99% sure that The Club is using Raxxla, and also they are behind most known activities, i'd guess that Raxxla is indeed hidden behind a permit-locked system, because that's the most simple way to hide it if you have enough power, and they indeed do have (Polaris, like already was suggested?).
In wich case joining real/inner DW might be a way to get that permit, or a path to the void to follow and find another "gateway" connected with Raxxla if there are more that one such "gateways" in our galaxy.

That blackhole idea is intresting to check out, gonna try that one if my voyage to formidine rift in search of siren os the void will be fruitless.
 
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Han_Zen

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Neural said:
I'll do you one better. WHY is Raxxla?!
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If I were to guess, I would say that Raxxla/the Portal was built by the Guardians that merged with their own AI or possibly by just the AI.

Guardian AI are called constructs. The same word Rafe setter used to describe the portal on Raxxla. Perhaps it's a bridge between their physical and their digital worlds?
 

Hanerib

Hanerib
The Dark Wheel now begins their conquest across the Bubble? How weird. I used to think they were a mere front for marketing thrumpberry flavouring...
 

SpocksOddSocks

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El_Scolio said:
"Princess Astrophel and the Spiraling Stars"
Princess Astrophel = Jocelyn Bell Burnell
Spiraling Stars = Pulsars
Link to article about the discovery of pulsars: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/jocelyn-bell-burnell-and-the-discovery-of-pulsars/
Link to biographical children's book about her and her discovery of pulsars: https://www.amazon.com/Jocelyn-Bell...46891888&sr=8-1&keywords=Jocelyn+Bell+Burnell
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Well, I can tell you that LGM-1 (the first pulsar she discovered) is very dull in game. One of my earlier exploration trips was to take a look. It has a class G companion, but no planets.
 

umbabrahattasil

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During one of the Creator Roundtable streams, DJ Truthsayer said that FDEV have come out and said that someone has actually travelled through the system that Raxxla is in, unaware of the fact.

1) Is there a source for that? I'm assuming that it was on a gameplay stream or something, rather than an official announcement or forum post. But I thought I'd ask?

2) This would narrow our search down to only previously visited systems. Which I don't know if there's a way to even catalog that considering the amount of players.

It's still a TON of systems and "narrow" isn't exactly the right term, of course, but relatively speaking it's also not 400 billion etc.
 
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Ayn Otori

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I need to confess, the whole DW/Raxxla thing is getting annoying, since there is no ingame (Galnet) thing telling is if we are 'warm'. People are out in the black, people are doing things in Maia, Delphi. People are just plain hoping to find something, but are we doing well? Who of these people is close? I myself are around the Heart and Soul Nebula, searching but nothing to be found and it's getting old fast. Am I warm? Do I need to get back to the bubble? Come on Fdev, put some Galnet stuff up about a story or something to nudge us on the right direction.
 

CyberTribe

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Ayn Otori said:
I need to confess, the whole DW/Raxxla thing is getting annoying, since there is no ingame (Galnet) thing telling is if we are 'warm'. People are out in the black, people are doing things in Maia, Delphi. People are just plain hoping to find something, but are we doing well? Who of these people is close? I myself are around the Heart and Soul Nebula, searching but nothing to be found and it's getting old fast. Am I warm? Do I need to get back to the bubble? Come on Fdev, put some Galnet stuff up about a story or something to nudge us on the right direction.
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That's the whole point of it being "personal travel", i don't eally expect any galnet articles or anything like that.
But having some sort of confirmation ingame (like finding something that will support your thought that the path is right) would be cool.
Still, there might be one already, we just haven't found it and are on the wrong path.

Anything weired during your witchspace jums in H&S?
 
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Scytale

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Ayn Otori said:
I need to confess, the whole DW/Raxxla thing is getting annoying, since there is no ingame (Galnet) thing telling is if we are 'warm'. People are out in the black, people are doing things in Maia, Delphi. People are just plain hoping to find something, but are we doing well? Who of these people is close? I myself are around the Heart and Soul Nebula, searching but nothing to be found and it's getting old fast. Am I warm?
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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-Find-Raxxla?p=7309151&viewfull=1#post7309151
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-Find-Raxxla?p=7310825&viewfull=1#post7310825
 

ScolioTheMost

ScolioTheMost
SpocksOddSocks said:
Well, I can tell you that LGM-1 (the first pulsar she discovered) is very dull in game. One of my earlier exploration trips was to take a look. It has a class G companion, but no planets.
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Keep in mind the codex referenced a children’s book about princess Astrophel and the Spiraling Stars. I ordered the book in case there are clues.
 

eadghe

eadghe
Give Frontiers usual modus operandi, finding Raxxla could as well mean you have to do 10 special tip-off missions. Those missions look exactly the same as every other tip-off mission and are only marked by a hidden server side flag. And they spawn only 1 on a 1000 because the intern did add one zero too many.

But honestly, I don't think that Frontier wants Raxxla to be found because it would be dull with the current possibilities of the game. So yes, Raxxla might be ingame but it is most likely permit locked until they have a narrative or whatever ready. Wrt. TDW faction: I think this was the original idea. One has to become elite and then do some missions for TDW but Frontier realized that people are way faster then they thought (or development goes way slower *cough* ) and the missions have been removed. I also think that the TDW faction will be removed in the near future which is already hinted at in the codex.
 
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