If I wanted a 'radio-tuning' game I would have rather bought an old radio.

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Im starting to think the FSS is not really about exploration. Its about making credits and because you are making credits that somehow justifys the misery involved. Very disapointing.
For me it's not about credits (although obviously it's now quicker - it was easy before, it just took much longer!), and I wager it isn't for others either. There's another thread "BD-12 1172: Best System Ever?" which with the old system you'd have to rely on blind luck or more likely someone else finding all that stuff first and then you hearing about it on the forums or wherever, now everyone has a decent chance to find these things. The FSS (for me at least) makes exploration more time-respectful and interesting...
 
I can tell you with certainty what will happen.

Fdev will look at the stats - their internal ones, not the steam thread - and they will know if the FSS is a success. Along with the rest of the Q4 changes. And then they will leave it or change it based on that.

These threads? Lol. There is no argument to win.

Of course the FSS is a success.
If you make something easier the majority of people are going to be pleased with it, and only a minority upset.
 
If only you were so keen to point this out to some of those you agree with. Im not "bent out of shape" im just flying the flag for an ajustment to the FSS mechanics in the face of teh opposition who would end the discussion if they could and bury the issue forever. If you are so happy with it why are you arguing with me instead of playing? I might think you find beating me and killing off the ADS permanently more important.
I'd guess I'm closest to agreeing with "old duck" although to be honest I really couldn't give a monkey's whether the ADS is brought back or stays confined to the darkest of pits. I'm viewing this thread in horrified fascination at how some can become so fixated on something so trivial.
 
For me it's not about credits (although obviously it's now quicker - it was easy before, it just took much longer!), and I wager it isn't for others either. There's another thread "BD-12 1172: Best System Ever?" which with the old system you'd have to rely on blind luck or more likely someone else finding all that stuff first and then you hearing about it on the forums or wherever, now everyone has a decent chance to find these things. The FSS (for me at least) makes exploration more time-respectful and interesting...

Totally agree.
 
If you are so happy with it why are you arguing with me instead of playing?

Because my wife is on our one and only PS4 playing Dragon Quest Builders? Though soon it will be my turn :D
 
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For me it's not about credits (although obviously it's now quicker - it was easy before, it just took much longer!), and I wager it isn't for others either. There's another thread "BD-12 1172: Best System Ever?" which with the old system you'd have to rely on blind luck or more likely someone else finding all that stuff first and then you hearing about it on the forums or wherever, now everyone has a decent chance to find these things. The FSS (for me at least) makes exploration more time-respectful and interesting...

Absolutely. That post also shows how it all ties together: the FSS, probes, the new lightning, new stuff to find: it all connects into an awesome explo experience. Still hanging around in Colonia, ships are being transferred and then I'll be doing a series of smaller expeditions around these parts in small ships, waiting to see where DWE2 goes. :)
 
The fact that they havnt said "no chance" yet is pretty much an indicator that its still up in the air.

That's a bit like taking the absence of evidence as the evidence of absence.

I make a habit of not responding to wfay requests, and no, that's not a type-o... "wfay requests", pronounced "way requests", are any number of things people ask that will simply never happen and do not warrant a response, because as we all know, there is no "f" in "way".
 
Absolutely. That post also shows how it all ties together: the FSS, probes, the new lightning, new stuff to find: it all connects into an awesome explo experience

Currently 10k away from Colonia after visiting Sag A then i'm off to beagle for a spot of sightseeing.

Still not found the compelling gameplay in the fss.

Lighting looks good though.
 
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Absolutely. That post also shows how it all ties together: the FSS, probes, the new lightning, new stuff to find: it all connects into an awesome explo experience. Still hanging around in Colonia, ships are being transferred and then I'll be doing a series of smaller expeditions around these parts in small ships, waiting to see where DWE2 goes. :)

Coincidentally I visited that system the other day, my video showing emulation the ADS post 3.3 started with me taking off from that system. It was of course already completely discovered & the FSS played no part in revealing all the toys, that was all down to the new probing/mapping feature that revealed surface POIs and the three NSPs (IIRC all in rings, one has a scientific megaship too) were simply revealed with the honk.
 
On a somewhat related topic, Distant Worlds 2 has now surpassed 10,000 signups:

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Uh, what it is is effectively a hud onto your visor that replaces your first person view, I suppose if you wanted to not have it 'shift' they could do something to make it look more like an overlay, but saying "out of cockpit" breaks immersion is a bit much in my book, first person is first person, it is the future, if your whole line of sight is replaced with that hud, which easily could be done with what has been seen ingame, why would it break your immersion?

As Stigbob suggested; some sort of "overlay" might do it for me. :)
 
But here I'm absolutely with you. I'm really worried about what's currently looking like the clearing sale of maybe 10 or let it be 20 different sorts of POIs, especially in light of the current tools that make it so easy to find them and which takes most of the exploration spirit out of the game. It's this aspect alone that makes me understand why some explorers still prefer blindly cruising over planetary surfaces. And yet it could be solved so easily: by a way lower distribution of POIs, that currently also seem to serve as some means of surface mining.

Not sure if mixing exploring and mining was such a good idea. For now the mining part is fun, but it's coming for a high price - and that is eliminating the sense of secrecy, mystery and actually exploring these things.

The issue is that there currently are not really a lot of things, and the things that exist cannot really be expected to be rare. Heck, they should be vastly more common than they are still! The solution is (IMHO) atmo planets, procgen findings and having planetary conditions influence gameplay. Expeditions on a boiling planet should be different than drifting around a planet that is far more welcoming. So you find stuff and the gameplay around it is varied.
 
I suspect a lot of issues will be forgotten when someone discovers a new alien race...which would be nigh on impossible without using the FSS.
 
and?

Just because 10k people sign up for a community doesn't indicate widespread support for the blue blob machine.

Will be interesting to see though post DW2 how many people who do explore might voice some issues with the blob machine.

The same seven as now.
 
The fact that virtually none of those who want parts or all of the ADS back into the game seem to accept an "XOR" compromise - in form of the original ADS module suppressing all of the FSS functionality when fitted into the ship - is telling volumes by undermining any potential credibility and honesty. It's basically saying "hey, the FSS is kinda cool and all but we want it all!", while happily ignoring all concerns about consistency and coherency of the game. It's an absolute destructive stance that deserves no further accommodating, plain and simple. :|

I'm not sure where you get the idea that those of us who don't want to use the FSS are demanding to retain its functionality. @Riverside is arguing that it shouldn't be necessary, not that he wouldn't accept it as a compromise. The rest of us would take the option to disable the FSS and fit an ADS would take it in a heartbeat. There are posts from @Blackcompany in this thread offering to take no credits and no tags in return for the ADS to be restored. I've personally stated a number of times that I'll accept that as a compromise solution.

Frankly, your post is just another transparent attempt to claim the moral high ground, while spouting misleading information. Your 'credibility and honesty' is sadly lacking.
 
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