If I wanted a 'radio-tuning' game I would have rather bought an old radio.

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Just done a 2-week exploration trip on one of my accounts, which netted him around 300 million in exploration data. Lots of interesting and valuable things discovered. He's now an Elite explorer. Yeah, no value in locating stuff right enough. :rolleyes:

Anyone who is happy with the FSS because "Muahah it gives me moar creditzz! yee haa", hasn't played the game enough to have a valid opinion.

Credits ceased having any value years ago.
 
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Making the planet/system scan even more tedious and repetitive with the FSS scanner, definately spoiled the fun in exploration.

"Hell is all about repetition!" (Quote: Colm Feore - Storm of the Century)

Right, because the placeholder before it wasn't tedious and repetitive. Same old argument, same old rebuttal. Buy an old radio then.
 
Makes you look like a bit of a prat really. I can't imagine how empty my life would have to be before I started taking pleasure from someone else's disappointment.

Yep, my postings on a gaming forum are a sure sign of my imminent emotional collapse.

Don't you dare take any pleasure in that, now ;)
 
Making the planet/system scan even more tedious and repetitive with the FSS scanner, definately spoiled the fun in exploration.

Right, because the placeholder before it wasn't tedious and repetitive. Same old argument, same old rebuttal. Buy an old radio then.

See the bit in bold in the OP where it says 'even more'?
That's an admission that the old system was tedious and repetitive.

So your 'rebuttal' isn't actually a rebuttal at all, since it's just reiterating a point that was made in the original quote.

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Right, because the placeholder before it wasn't tedious and repetitive. Same old argument, same old rebuttal. Buy an old radio then.

Nice either/or fallacy.

You know very well we arent necessarily saying we want the old one button, lazy system back.

Me, I just want ADS to reveal bodies. No credits. Dont put my name on stuff unless I fly out and explore. Just dont make me use the FSS.
 
Yep, my postings on a gaming forum are a sure sign of my imminent emotional collapse.

Don't you dare take any pleasure in that, now ;)

Well if you were undergoing one I wouldn't, that's the point really :)

As for it only being a posting on a game forum, if I post on here that I like strawberries I tend to assume people would infer, not unreasonably, that I do in fact like strawberries.
 
See the bit in bold in the OP where it says 'even more'?
That's an admission that the old system was tedious and repetitive.

So your 'rebuttal' isn't actually a rebuttal at all, since it's just reiterating a point that was made in the original quote.

Thank you for your contribution to the page count.

What of the 99% of us that find the new system actually fun and engaging and the old system so garbage we couldn’t stand to venture out more than the 5k required to unlock Professor Palin?

Is that a rebuttal?

And what’s a buttle? Re- meaning “again”, buttle meaning?
 
What of the 99% of us that find the new system actually fun and engaging and the old system so garbage we couldn’t stand to venture out more than the 5k required to unlock Professor Palin?

Is that a rebuttal?

And what’s a buttle? Re- meaning “again”, buttle meaning?

I'm very happy for whatever percentage of players are enjoying the new system, which is why I'm not requesting that the new system be removed, only that some option is available to decouple the body discovery and evaluation mechanics. As we've previously discussed, this could actually be implemented within the FSS and it would still be acceptable to me.

Still not a rebuttal though - mostly because it's not possible to rebut a subjective opinion. Still, I'm not the one who started using the term.


Interestingly:

Rebut - from Old French reboter, from re- + boter to thrust
 
You know there were an awful lot of people posting that they wanted the CQC "rank" removed from the UI - an awful lot more than the handful of Luddites on here - and of course F D never responded to that at all. So why not just let this thread die, it is embarrassing that intelligent people can't accept and adapt to something that is in actual use exceptionally good. Just leisurely wandering out on the DW2 "thingie" and I am fully scanning systems in minutes, at last I can scan a system and not feel guilty that I didn't trek out to those last icy worlds.
 
You know there were an awful lot of people posting that they wanted the CQC "rank" removed from the UI - an awful lot more than the handful of Luddites on here - and of course F D never responded to that at all.

Good point. Even the mildest suggestion of flashing the spectrum in the cockpit window on honk fell of deaf ears so makes you wonder.

Im going to go out on a limb and suggest that would have made it usable eventually for even the strongest issues the fss raises.
 
You know there were an awful lot of people posting that they wanted the CQC "rank" removed from the UI - an awful lot more than the handful of Luddites on here - and of course F D never responded to that at all. So why not just let this thread die, it is embarrassing that intelligent people can't accept and adapt to something that is in actual use exceptionally good. Just leisurely wandering out on the DW2 "thingie" and I am fully scanning systems in minutes, at last I can scan a system and not feel guilty that I didn't trek out to those last icy worlds.

Except that the FSS is, in actual use, exceptionally dull, repetitive, boring garbage intended to inflate the time required to figure out that there's nothing out there to find anyway.
 
You've clearly not used it much, have you.

No he's right. There's only a few hooks into the fss:

- You have to be rewards obsessed enough to focus on what you're getting rather than the experience of getting it. Take the rewards away and what's left?
- You accept the inevitable of frontier god handing your game and try and make it work.

See the problem is not the systems where you happen to see something in the spectrum that you're interested in.. its the systems where there is not....

It doesn't take much bias towards favouring the experience vs video gameplay metrics for the fss to look completely bad. If all you care about is a means to a set of rewards of course its great its supermassive god mode. Hours of flying is now replaced by minutes of fidgeting.
 
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No he's right. There's only a few hooks into the fss:

- You have to be rewards obsessed enough to focus on what you're getting rather than the experience of getting it. Take the rewards away and what's left?
- You accept the inevitable of frontier god handing your game and try and make it work.

See the problem is not the systems where you happen to see something in the spectrum that you're interested in.. its the systems where there is not....

It doesn't take much bias towards favouring the experience vs video gameplay metrics for the fss to look completely bad. If all you care about is a means to a set of rewards of course its great its supermassive god mode. Hours of flying is now replaced by minutes of fidgeting.

There's a failure to comprehend that what some people consider to be the moat awesome feature of the FSS is exactly what other people find to be the most terrible. It shouldn't be surprising that people who spent thousands of hours enjoying the old system are completely turned off by the new one.
 
There's a failure to comprehend that what some people consider to be the moat awesome feature of the FSS is exactly what other people find to be the most terrible. It shouldn't be surprising that people who spent thousands of hours enjoying the old system are completely turned off by the new one.

Yeah. And i've always been live and let live.. i'm happy to change what i do around to accommodate new ideas. What's happened here though is the old method has been completely shut down. Its been removed from the game effectively. If it was plausible i could probably accept this, but i can't see any positive reason why. The only design reasons i can see are its gone to accomodate the bubble exemption pass and to force people to use the new feature. Its madness, one hand doesn't trust the new feature not to upset the majority demographic and nullifies its use completely while the other hand is force feeding it for some reason.

Also, bumped into the exploration forum on the way out and the feedback has started as predicted. And its not us. These poor people have months of one sided pleading, rationalisation and conclusion to go through.
 
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