If I wanted a 'radio-tuning' game I would have rather bought an old radio.

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krylite

krylite
Max Factor said:
As I said, it needs to work with the FSS. 99% of the time you won't need to use the FSS at all, just doing the honk will give you the stars in the nav panel which you can then select and fly to without ever having to enter the FSS, but on the odd occasion you can't find a planet, the FSS will have its use. Planets that are over 30,000ls away are very rare unless around another star, which you can see and visit if you want to.
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I think this is a fine compromise. If the ADS returned with its instant composition and type resolving, limiting its spherical range based on the ship's location would make it more lore realistic while leaving the rest farther out as blobs. While the FSS continues to be directionally applied with its process of longer range limited point zone amplification, hopefully with some future improvements such as band point snap-in combined with an option to semi-auto pan search for FSS blobs to cut down some of the manual UI time needed.

And yes, I'm having fun exploring in DW2 now with the FSS resolving entire undiscovered systems & using the DSS to map intriguing FSS resolved objects, and don't need the Cr, where before I planned on exploring the galaxy later, and got caught up with powerplay and the bgs gameplay.
 
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Ralph Vargr

Ralph Vargr
Well, the FSS is eating the Galaxy.

I have hundreds of EGO scans held up in queue by DW2.

I finally got a first mapped tonight. Everything else has been strip-mined. To get a first discovered will now take a lot longer.

So, I look forward to the conclusion of DW 2. It should eat a sufficient amount of accessible space...and time.
 

-VR- Max Factor

-VR- Max Factor
Ralph Vargr said:
Well, the FSS is eating the Galaxy.

I have hundreds of EGO scans held up in queue by DW2.

I finally got a first mapped tonight. Everything else has been strip-mined. To get a first discovered will now take a lot longer.

So, I look forward to the conclusion of DW 2. It should eat a sufficient amount of accessible space...and time.
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Less then 0.2% of the star systems in ED have been entered. To say the galaxy is being strip mined is pure hyperbole and you know it.

In my DW2 expesition I have come accross plenty of virgin systems. Sounds like you are foing via the usual travellled routes. Most of those were already fully scanned before the new version came out anyway.
 

Maro-Val

Maro-Val
DrewCarnegie said:
I'd accept that - I have no interest in using the FSS, so I don't care if it's disabled by the presence of the ADS.
Other people will probably be along soon to tell you why they don't like it though :)
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Yea i know the 3 to 5 people that are very vocal and very fond of anything is thrown at their faces. Let them come, i can fight tourists all day long.
 

CMDR Karrde Sun

CMDR Karrde Sun
Limoncello Lizard said:
I've got just over 500. Since I refuse to use the FSS, I'm sticking to the bubble.
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Yeah I did that too. Probably why I’m still playing. I was planning on just going nuts on release and mapping everything, but quickly refined that to only going for non discovered and non mapped systems. Burnt myself out after 2 weeks of that now playing in my little mini empire. It’s got my name on it!
 

Burke

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Ralph Vargr said:
I think I might have a twitch on why we have the current mechanics.

It was designed as a standalone astronomy game. I'm quite serious. It had not yet been fully developed or coded. It was a very important idea to someone.

When Frontier got the idea to integrate all forms of play with the FSS, this game was fully realized. They created the FSS, based on the original game design.
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I seem to vaguely remember a teacher raving about how great this game was and he was using it for teaching. I expect that all went out the window when the FSS came round.
 

M00ka

M00ka
Burke said:
I seem to vaguely remember a teacher raving about how great this game was and he was using it for teaching. I expect that all went out the window when the FSS came round.
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I suspect you may be wrong. As an aid to teaching, the ADS would be rather a non-event. Once click and everything about the system is revealed, not that exciting for the students to see. But with the FSS, the teacher can show how different bodies emit different radio frequencies, then whilst going thru the scan process, show quite easily how some bodies are orbiting the main body, i.e. an easy representation of orbit mechanics.
 

M00ka

M00ka
Burke said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange...chool_is_using_elite_dangerous_for_education/

First one i found and not the example i was looking for. I swear i have seen somebody recently on this forum say how great the system map was as a teaching tool.
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Yeah that wasn't a very good example for your argument was it ;). As for the system map, well that is an extremely simplistic graphical representation of the system, orbits are inferred but not shown, distance is totally missing and any inquisitive student will ask how the ship generated the system map in the first place. With the FSS, the student can see how each body is 'discovered' by it's unique to type frequency, how a major body like a gas giant can have multiple bodies in orbit and at the end you get the system map. So as an educational tool, showing someone how the result is generated is much better than just showing the result.
 

Burke

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M00ka said:
So as an educational tool, showing someone how the result is generated is much better than just showing the result.
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How do you reach this conclusion? You have no idea what a teacher might be trying to teach. Three years ago this game was being used as a teaching aid. Its no longer the same game so there is a good chance it now isnt. And yes your precious FSS will be to blame :)
 
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kpmop

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Burke said:
How do you reach this conclusion? You have no idea what a teacher might be trying to teach. Three years ago this game was being used as a teaching aid. Its no longer the same game so there is a good chance it now isnt. And yes your precious FSS will be to blame :)
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Lol. The bottom of the barrel must be getting awfully thin by now, there's a danger that the next scrape might break through... ;)
 

M00ka

M00ka
kpmop said:
Lol. The bottom of the barrel must be getting awfully thin by now, there's a danger that the next scrape might break through... ;)
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I am waiting for the usual suspects to start blaming the FSS for global warming, their football team losing, and how they no longer have a social life. :D
 

M00ka

M00ka
Burke said:
How do you reach this conclusion? You have no idea what a teacher might be trying to teach. Three years ago this game was being used as a teaching aid. Its no longer the same game so there is a good chance it now isnt. And yes your precious FSS will be to blame :)
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Umm because it is good teaching practice to show how a result is achieved rather than just show the result with no explanation. Weren't you every told as a student to 'always show your work'?
 
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Burke

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Im happy to agree to disagree. However all i said was somebody used it as a teaching aid. First i was wrong, then you knew better than the teacher (im assuming you arnt one) then i was scraping the bottom of the barrel :)
 
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Stigbob

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Burke said:
Im happy to agree to disagree. However all i said was somebody used it as a teaching aid. First i was wrong, then you knew better than the teacher (im assuming you arnt one) then i was scraping the bottom of the barrel :)
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Will nobody think of the children ?.
 

M00ka

M00ka
Burke said:
Im happy to agree to disagree. However all i said was somebody used it as a teaching aid. First i was wrong, then you knew better than the teacher (im assuming you arnt one) then i was scraping the bottom of the barrel :)
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Care to point out where you assumed I said I knew better than a teacher (and no I am not an educator, background is military). You were the one that said "
I expect that all went out the window when the FSS came round" which is the part I referred to when I said I suspect you could be wrong then explained why by saying that in fact the FSS would be a better educational tool as it shows more of the 'how'. ​
 
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