Exactly. Good write up
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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Exactly. Good write up
Ok, lets take that piece from the Codex as being accurate.
How long has the TDW faction been up and running for? The real Dark Wheel has been round for a long long time. In that context, what's the timescale for 'not for long' and 'sooner or later'? Given all that, how can we make any inferrences based on TDW faction still being in existence?
Nah, different groups and forces in play. (IMHO anyway
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That Felicity quote in the codex is what lead me to believe they are the real Dark Wheel. They are operating for years now and even expanded to LFT 926. Dont you think the "real" DW would have intervened if the codex specificly says they dont tolerate if someone abuses their name?!
After i got allied i did missions for at least 30 hours for them but nothing out of the ordinary for now (i accept all follow up missions, donate if i can, check local news and greetings etc.).
For now i switched to getting all the permits i dont have.
After i got allied i did missions for at least 30 hours for them but nothing out of the ordinary for now (i accept all follow up missions, donate if i can, check local news and greetings etc.).
For now i switched to getting all the permits i dont have.
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Unless the entirety of the dark wheel is like some inside joke on everyone by adventurers. Felicity farseer is an adventurer and it could all be them just messing with everyone for fun. It's not like there are no advantages for adventurers to make up stories and perpetuate them.
The entire raxxla thing is basically like a giant joke passed down by adventurers over the centuries. I wonder if Raxxla isn't just the first place found by adventurers headed out from sol. Or the first station made in the early days of spaceflight.
The entire raxxla thing is basically like a giant joke passed down by adventurers over the centuries. I wonder if Raxxla isn't just the first place found by adventurers headed out from sol. Or the first station made in the early days of spaceflight.
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Like asking the new guy to go to the workshop and ask for "A long weight", or a "can of tartan paint" etc...
Just got a glimps at this in the picture thread: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...raphy-Thread?p=7400468&viewfull=1#post7400468
I'm waiting for a reply on where he saw this. I'm not sure if this is in game or an edited photo. If it's real that is really interesting.
I'm waiting for a reply on where he saw this. I'm not sure if this is in game or an edited photo. If it's real that is really interesting.
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meh, just a "skybox" thing. Their PC /system can't render all the stars that are there, so it renders the max allowed by the graphicConfig file. Interesting its a triangle, but at the same time, makes sense given how certain textures render.
He was definitely trolling us. If someone pops in here claiming to have discovered Raxxla or some path towards it but won't provide any sort of solid proof like pictures or locations and only speaks in cryptic riddles, they're flat out lying.
People know that Raxxla hunters are so desperately starved for any substantial clues that we can sometimes be easily led into wild goose chases. My policy is simply "pics or you're full of crap."
I operate on the assumption that the faction was put in SD for a reason. The Dark Wheel searches for worthy pilots to test for skill and courage per the Codex entry; what better place to set up shop in that search than SD? It's literally the mecca for all Elite pilots in the galaxy. The faction in SD is not the home base of the Dark Wheel, but an outpost of sorts. Even if it's not the "true" Dark Wheel, it is definitely the most "tiny bit obvious" place that the quest to find Raxxla would start. That being said, I'm triple Elite and Allied to the Dark Wheel faction and they have yet to give me any mysterious or clandestine missions or messages yet. Probably because Raxxla is permit locked somewhere out in the Col 70 Sector and not in a state ready to be found.
Yeah, that's a skybox glitch. You start to see it as you get closer to the Galactic Core where star density increases. Pretty cool looking though.
Now it turns out that the MW is 'twisted' !
Seems like FD is going to have to tweak the Stellar Forge to keep the realism they are so proud of.
No no no ! Illuminati in ED confirmed ! The Club !
Seems like FD is going to have to tweak the Stellar Forge to keep the realism they are so proud of.
No no no ! Illuminati in ED confirmed ! The Club !
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I'm sorry but I laughed so hard at this that I almost died.
To clarify and to keep this thread on topic: He meant contemporary to 1212, in context with his reply
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"current" == 1212 ? yea, sounds about right, ignoring the small difference of ~800 years.
This discussion is becoming more ridiculous with every new page.
That muslim statement had me worried for a second. I quickly had to run to the door and take a look outside to ensure nobody is currently invading anything over here.
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Both, but neither make sense. If you equate it to modern times(3305=2019) there aren't many things that could fit in a straightforward sense. Muslim invasion could work because you could go with either some repeat of the crusades, or the whole who is controlling it paranoid theory going with the overwhelming conspiratorial realities of the game, or a statement about U.S. war efforts causing it. But, again the times don't make sense as the first thargoid invasion would have been in 1839 and not 1212(Which I mixed up initially.). The only other things that could make any sense would be that thargoids are some statement about U.S. miiltary presence or similar in a more general sense.(What else could even remotely be refered to as invading Britain/Europe in modern times?! Besides possibly Debt?). U.S. Military pressence wouldn't potentially make sense because I would assume Britain is the empire and the federation the U.S. Unless the three powers are something like England,France,Germany.(unless thargoids are some reference to U.S. helmets from wwI/II) After that it would have to be something like the invasion of Britain by something like the American crayfish. That might actually make sense. I don't know what else could fit a direct comparison to modern time in that theory. Else you have to take the route that the game represents things near the crusades or other times to other subjects which gets harder to figure out.
The point is if we could figure something like that out it might be much simpler to figure out what/where raxxla is. It would reduce a lot of possibilities as to everything in game and make it easier to locate. It would basically put an historical bullseye on it.
Edit: Except the problem with contemporary with 1212 is it goes back farther with the 800+ earlier period of raxxla. which means it can't be that simple. I don't think the crusades stretched that long did they? Or did they? I was hoping it would be easy to find something that represented galcop also but wasn't finding anything. Obviously if there is any historical correlation, thargoids are a big hint. It's too big of an event to avoid.
I guess you could back to the Romans. Maybe it's about the entirety of known British history?!
https://www.history.com/topics/middle-ages/crusades
I guess the crusades could work out if you were in that period. Since the first thargoid attack was about 200 years before the modern. But that means galcop was started about 800 years before. Would that be the end of the roman empire or similar?(byzantine?!) Not sure what that would make raxxla. Looking for the holy grail possibly? Lots of variation there and popular jokes from britain related to it in the form of montey python to start with.
What is popular historical reference/thinking/focus from a british standpoint?
Edit2: This idea started because of the reality of the current game time being 1:1 with real time and the fact the games lore emphasizes exact dates so heavily in so many areas. That would be a little bit obvious.
BTW, if thargoids equal invasion of britain by american crayfish, that would be hilarious. At which point does Gordon Ramsay show up and start commanding all humans to start eating thargoids?
[video=youtube;I0D1duynFR4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0D1duynFR4[/video]
I swear I saw an NPC that seemed way to close to gordon ramsay... He was a chef and everything!
Edit3: There is one other theory that fits all the major landmarks of modern history and that is catholacism vs protastantism and europes history. That would superficially fit names like, "The Club" of rome! But I don't see anything that fits napolean attacking rome.
https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Elite_Dangerous_Timeline#3082
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_and_the_Catholic_Church
Then you are still stuck with what the thargoids correlate too.
https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/The_Club
I'm not sure who wrote what, but look at the key words and the descriptions. Sheparding, etc.
BTW, if the club is the club of rome then the club was founded in 1967 according to their website. That would be 3254. The club started project dynasty in 3270's. That kind of fits potentially. Or it's in the correct range of time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_of_Rome
https://www.clubofrome.org/
3290 is only 2004... What came out that became popular by 2011?! The only thing I can think of is the internet, but I would put that farther back to the 90's and 80's. Unless it's refering to mass use. Who would sirius corp be then? Space exploration could mean the internet development or something. Or are there famous space adventures in those periods? That or when bigger internet connection occured. Is FSD just broadband?
What is creapy is if you look at the club of rome website. It has an add that says transformation is feasible. The major project of the club is terraforming!
https://www.clubofrome.org/2018/10/18/transformation-is-feasable-a-new-report-to-the-club-of-rome/
Something that fits 2004. It's not the foundation but the start of public trading of one thing related to the internet! GOOGLE!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google
So, the question would then be that if they made it public(IPO's/trading) who is sirius corp and who owns google?! I thought it was odd marco qwent was a conveniently exiled worker/designer on a planet called lucifer... I think he's a bit on the suspicious side. It's like he's hiding he's a potential major player and underplaying himself incase anyone looks into it.
This would all mean that FSD equals internet or google usage/trading...
What are thargoids then. Hackers or something odd? But that gets to something interesting. First thargoid invasion is in the 1830's. That could mean something related to telegraph lines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_transcontinental_telegraph
http://www.americaslibrary.gov/jb/reform/jb_reform_morsecod_1.html
Was there something before this that might relate(a pre telegraph tech that was a competitor/alternative or something?). Or would thargoids be something different altogether? I don't know what was famous in 1839... Let alone any take on the word invasion or war/conflict.
https://www.loc.gov/collections/samuel-morse-papers/articles-and-essays/timeline/1791-1839/
Daguerre I recognize as that is the system I keep my ships and buy all my stuff as it's in the control of the guy who gives 15% off of everything! 8)
Is Daguerreotype being used in some way in modern times famously? Maybe astronomy or something? IF thargoids are related to this photography method is could make sense out of it. Thargoids could represent the return of this process being used somehow. Is it needed for like deep space shots or something? Or is it being reused in some way in a new form in modern times.
Another odd link:
Project destiny starts in 3270=1984. The year the original game was released.
https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Elite_Dangerous_Timeline#3283
3270Edit
- Project Dynasty, a venture funded and organized by The Club, launches three secret expeditions beyond the Core Systems to chart habitable worlds in the Formidine Rift, Hawking's Gap, and the Scutum-Sagittarii Conflux. None of the expeditions return after they complete their mission.[URL="https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Elite_Dangerous_Timeline#cite_note-Premonition-49"][50][/URL]
- Jordan Rochester, the second son of Federal Congressman Isolde Rochester of the prominent Rochester family, is born.[URL="https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Elite_Dangerous_Timeline#cite_note-APOJR-50"][51][/URL]
What is this? The internets war on kodak?!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daguerreotype
First mention in print (1835) and public announcement (1839)
A paragraph tacked onto the end of a review of one of Daguerre's Diorama spectacles[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daguerreotype#cite_note-42"][42][/URL] in the Journal des artistes on 27 September 1835,[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daguerreotype#cite_note-43"][43][/URL] a Diorama painting of a landslide that occurred in "La Vallée de Goldau", made passing mention of rumour that was going around the Paris studios of Daguerre's attempts to make a visual record on metal plates of the fleeting image produced by the camera obscura:It is said that Daguerre has found the means to collect, on a plate prepared by him, the image produced by the camera obscura, in such a way that a portrait, a landscape, or any view, projected upon this plate by the ordinary camera obscura, leaves an imprint in light and shade there, and thus presents the most perfect of all drawings ... a preparation put over this image preserves it for an indefinite time ... the physical sciences have perhaps never presented a marvel comparable to this one.[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daguerreotype#cite_note-44"][44][/URL]
Title pages of Daguerre's 1839 manual, published soon after Arago's lecture to meet the intense public demand for more information about the process.
A further clue to fixing the date of invention of the process is that when the Paris correspondent of the London periodical The Athenaeum reported the public announcement of the daguerreotype in 1839, he mentioned that the daguerreotypes now being produced were of considerably better quality than the ones he had seen "four years earlier".
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Together, these announcements caused early commentators to choose 1839 as the year photography was born, or made public. Later, it became known that Niépce's role had been downplayed in Arago's efforts to publicize the daguerreotype, and the first photograph is recorded in Eder's History of Photography as having been taken in 1826 or 1827. Niépce's reputation as the real inventor of photography became known through his son Isidore's indignation that his father's early experiments had been overlooked or ignored although Nicéphore had revealed his process, which, at the time, was secret.
This could make sense of all the secrecy regarding thargoids in some ways.
https://inara.cz/galaxy-logbooks/26802/
Would this mean the fedration is somehow related to france or where these individual come from? The history of photography puts them in relationship to the Academy of science in france.
https://canonn.science/lore/drewwagar-the-thargoids/
3125=1839
3200=1914
3255=1969(moonlanding?!)
3302=2016
3303=2017
Mind you I haven't played the games so I'm not familiar with much. It puts me at a disadvantage.
Are thargoids feminism?! ><
https://www.amazon.com/Significant-Sisters-Grassroots-Feminism-1839-1939/dp/0140143467
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-wave_feminism
Either way, what would raxxla be. It's over 800 years old isn't it?! When was the first known reference to raxxla again? I can't find the reference.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange...can_we_start_a_raxxla_mega_conspiracy_thread/
https://www.iffs.se/en/research/researchers/maria-tornqvist/ 8\
When did the art tornqvist live in elite dangerous timeline?
Another idea is take the year equal to real time and then put everything together from that year like a bizzare mishmash of events.
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On the other hand, we don’t know what Raxxla is in ED, so we don’t know what capabilities it offers (if any) to anyone who can access it!
I suspect you are right in that the Club comprise a group of powerful characters that we hear of often in galnet articles and have no access to Raxxla, but we don’t have any canon source that says Raxxla is inhabited.
However I also think Raxxla is a hidden station that will turn out to have no special capabilities. It might be an alien construction, but I’m not expecting it to be end-game or a super SD.
People need to remove themselves from the "tiny bit obvious" quote. Watching the stream, he is clearly talking about the fact that it was a tiny bit obvious that a Raxxla question would be some of the first questions asked. He is not responding to the question itself when he says this, he is responding to the other guy when he says you can guess this would be a question asked to which he says "yeah its a tiny bit obvious" and then the other guy moves on to the next question. If you think it related to the question then this will lead you off track. Raxxla will be found but only but only to those who have the eyes to see it.
I keep forgetting that is where that idea came from. Yea, I don't think he meant raxxla at all but the question. But that gets confused over time. Although it works naturally as a general thought in regards to game design.
Well, it has been hinted that we should not necessarily take anything we hear via galnet etc at face value, characters can lie.
So either this titbit from Felicity is just galnet window dressing, or it is intended to deceive us, or it is true.
Can it be corroborated? Does it tie in with anything else we know?
We have a scene in ch15 Elite Premonition:
“You understand who I represent, I assume, Commander Thorn?’ ‘I’ve seen you run missions out of Shinrarta Dezhra,’ Thorn replied.
‘Shinrarta Dezhra?’ The woman laughed, her scorn plain to hear. ‘You think the Dark Wheel advertises on a station board in plain sight? That we need rookie pilots to drag a couple of tonnes of thrumpberry flavouring across to Hutton Orbital? A trivial ploy to keep the Founders off our backs.’
‘I’m gratified to hear it,’ Thorn replied. ‘You had me worried for a moment.’
‘It was a little too obvious,’ Lestenio agreed.
‘It keeps the treasure seekers and wishful thinkers occupied,’ the woman said. ‘They believe they are onto something. They have their uses for occasional menial activities. The truth is far more subtle than they will ever suspect. Shinrarta is merely a front.’
‘So …?’
‘You should not consider the Dark Wheel a single organisation, gentlemen. How could it survive for so long if it were? The Wheel has many levels, many hubs, cogs, gears and spokes. It is more akin to an affiliation of organisations that share certain common goals. Interlocking in purpose. Consider yourselves now spinning on the outermost rim.”
Excerpt From
Elite Dangerous: Premonition
Drew Wagar
This material may be protected by copyright.
So, I suspect DW in SD is part of TRDW but it’s a front, and possibly a recruiting mechanism. It seems to be a common find that they offer assassination missions, as a follow-on to other elite-rank missions (I was offered one after ferrying a party of businessmen only some 15ly for several MCr). It could be these are part of the recruitment process, they are supposedly interested in the best pilots, who clearly must be ruthless. That fits with the lore, whether it is canon for ED or not.
The last sentence is also, I think, illuminating. I suspect FD asked DW to put this phrase in to resolve the original SD mission hint that Raxxla is “obfuscated on the outer rim”. That is just a little bit obvious.
I had an hypothesis which I mentioned a while ago but didn’t get taken up. If TRDW is a conglomerate then it should be possible to join it by getting allied with various (half a dozen? a dozen??...) of its affiliates. What type of faction is DW in SD? The background flag in the mission-givers’ photo is repeated across the game, looks like there are four flags or so-is this another clue?
I disagree. MB said “you have to make it a little bit obvious, so people know what they are looking for”. That is about Raxxla, not his expectations on the question.
I'm currently testing various situations within that system.
I can understand their superstition as there are a lot of references to 'the path' what with various npc names, nods towards the waters of Lethe and the such and of course my favourite 'Slow Bull' agricultural station.
That alone would indicate this being all humbug.
There are lots of what seem at first glance to be 'clues', for those with eyes to see, but really it’s most all likely pareidolia. You can find meaning in anything out here in the void.
On my first 3 visitations a 'Child' would constantly appear, or they would show up circling the station...now she hasn't appeared for some time, there simply isn’t any consistency.
It’s a nice theory, however if it were true why hadn’t FD applied the same coding to the rest of the game? Would seem a shame to expend it only to just one area of the game...
There is no conclusive proof of what Raxxla is or where, all we know is the FD say it’s in the game, but in what format? It can be found by anyone apparently, but so can permit locked systems... FD have scrubbed the lore concerning this so all bets are off, it may have been lost but who is to say it wasnt first hidden.
For all the drama I like his idea, this is how I would hide Raxxla, in plain sight or through a path of initiation. I hope we dont find it soon and its not just another rock x light years away. There is a mechanic in game where certain stars dont appear in Galmap but they do appear in the skybox, a naming issue I think. If I wanted to hide something thats how I would do it, pay off the one agency that can pin point it and erase the records of its location, you then have to physically eye-ball its location...
'If thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also look into thee'.
However the Lesser Mysteries here may well just be balderdash and hokum I'm sorry to report. Who knows maybe its time locked, the mysteries were an annual event over a period of days...again a good grindy way to hide something.
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