The Quest To Find Raxxla

[Han_Zen]

Yeah the way they managed to pinpoint the signal source made my head hurt trying to understand. Also late time I activated the map room I noticed that the map would drift slowly out the room not sure if it was a bug or not, but to get back on topic I'm not entirely convinced that this is the same route to Raxxla. Do we have any concrete evidence that Thargoids and Raxxla are even connected in a small way?

We don't have any evidence that they are connected. The map has a specific purpose and it's not to find Raxxla.

The spiraling stars in the 'map room' are interesting though.

If anything in the thargoid realm is Raxxla related, I would guess Merope 5C is most likely. It's an unremarkable moon at the center(omphalos) of everything. The only thing interesting about it, is a peculiar orbital inclination.
Merope 5C has been more searched than any planet in the game. If there is something there, we are missing a key ingredient in the search.

Perhaps it's the cosmic enlightenment?

 

[Han_Zen]

How is it possible to navigate using two systems as the anchors in 3D? There are theoretical ability to existing the two systems with same distances to Merope and Col 70. Should be the third point. Or the DB of known coordinates of systems where recorded data for the current system.

Hmm, I'm sorry. We are going to off topic. And this was discussed in special threads probably.

Oups, I read your messages more accurate. Still I can't understand it. So nevermind

Distances in 3D are like bubbles.

Two bubbles(known systems) will give four intersections(correct distance to both). Add a third and you are down to two intersections.

In most cases only one of those will contain a system.

 

[Scytale]

Only "hint" that could make me think that, perhaps, Raxxla might be related to the Thargs is DW saying "Raxxla and the Thargoids were off-limits (FD orders)" when writing the Rift mYsTeRy ( booo ! ).

 

[Spenceuk99]

Was thinking about 'the jewel that burns...' - possibly the only jewel that burns is diamond, most others already being oxides of silicon or aluminium etc. There are, then a number of possible diamond angles:

Spoiler

• the diamond ring nebula, of which there are 2, but only Abell 33 is close enough, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_ring_nebula
• white dwarf are 'diamond stars' being composed of oxygen and carbon - eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BPM_37093
• carbon planets such as - PSR J1719-1438 b - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSR_J1719-1438_b
• the great diamond constellation , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Diamond

and others, I'm sure..

YB

made me think of this, from a while back. A diamond star, no less!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3492919.stm

 

[Eckee]

made me think of this, from a while back. A diamond star, no less!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3492919.stm

Also known as V886 Centauri and BPM 37093.

Edit: It’s not unique though, just the biggest/brightest.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

We don't have any evidence that they are connected. The map has a specific purpose and it's not to find Raxxla.

The spiraling stars in the 'map room' are interesting though.

If anything in the thargoid realm is Raxxla related, I would guess Merope 5C is most likely. It's an unremarkable moon at the center(omphalos) of everything. The only thing interesting about it, is a peculiar orbital inclination.
Merope 5C has been more searched than any planet in the game. If there is something there, we are missing a key ingredient in the search.

Perhaps it's the cosmic enlightenment?

Don’t forget UAs all point to Merope star/system and UPs all point to Merope 5C.
Maybe we need a tuning fork &/or pendulum?

 

[Alexium67]

If Thargs knows Raxxla and it is the place, then using different system as a target (Raxxla) they may found it. Found it using different link. Hmm, no. It is definitely different things. Thargs and Raxxla. Yes, they may to know, but we haven't mechanic to re-turn that unknown machine to find something else except Thargs sites. And second. If Thargs know Raxxla, will they use it? Can they use it? Can we use it?..

And third thoughts... Federation leaders knows what was Martian non-human Artifact. It was not useless. At least as a source of information. No one will hide something like a piece of stone in 3305. So this artifact may be usable. At least as a source of information.

 

[Hanerib]

Other thing some guy in a german forum wrote that when using the fss on a BH after 10-15 seconds one can hear words. Didn‘t try that as of yet. Do we have any knowledge on that?

Does it sound like this?

Spoiler

[video=youtube;KQkyw9KdDWI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQkyw9KdDWI[/video]

The secret involvement of Skam Records in the Raxxla mystery was one of my favourite theories of all time. I have been secretly conducting further studies in this path, currently investigating Snatch! Records.

 

[Han_Zen]

Don’t forget UAs all point to Merope star/system and UPs all point to Merope 5C.
Maybe we need a tuning fork &/or pendulum?

I remember.
I was actually with Ratking15, the first time he took the UA to Merope and dropped it by the star.

 

[Hrv123]

Don’t forget UAs all point to Merope star/system and UPs all point to Merope 5C.
Maybe we need a tuning fork &/or pendulum?

On that image there are three T. artefacts. Thargoid Sensor pointing at Merope (?), Thargoid Probe pointing to M. 5c (?), but there is and third one, Thargoid Link. Where do T. Link point at?

 

[Thatchinho]

Distances in 3D are like bubbles.

Two bubbles(known systems) will give four intersections(correct distance to both). Add a third and you are down to two intersections.

In most cases only one of those will contain a system.

Minor technical point - the intersection of two spheres is a circle, so is an infinite series of points (except in the special case where the sum of the radius of the spheres is exactly the same as the distance between the centre of the spheres, in which case the intersection is an infinitesimal point.)

Except in the special case above a third system or sphere is always needed to be able to calculate specific points.


Additional note for anyone who finds themselves having to try this stuff - if searching for systems via one of the databases a different approach can be done which can sometimes work with 2 systems or occasionally even 1, as when searching the database you don’t have to actually calculate the points of intersection, you just have to run a search on the database along the lines of {Find systems where ‘distance from system a’ = ‘distance 1 +/- error’ And ‘distance from system b’ = ‘distance 2 +/- error’ And etc.}.

The error value on the distance has to be included to allow for rounding errors and approximations in the figures being used.

The issue with this approach is that if a system isn’t in the database then you will have no direct way of knowing it’s not there if you do get some results, and if you don’t get any results then you don’t know specific locations to check in game, whereas if you calculate the co-ordinates and don’t get a match for the co-ordinates from the database, then you know there’s a high chance there’s a system that’s not in the database, and can check the locations directly in game via Galmap.

 

[Alexium67]

I going further in my trying to analyze the Hecate Wheel and it trinity. May something important being in the center of distances from three special systems? For example this three aspects of goddesses who brings light on the crossroads. For example something placed on the same distances from Artemis, Persephone and unknown Eileithyia (or Lucina, or Juno). Or even Shinrarta Dezhra. Probably nothing. Because it is too easy. Not too easy as a calculation, but too easy as an idea. Raxxla or key to it can't hide such oblivious way. I think if I will ready to find Raxxla some day, I should be read main Codex page of it. Not the toast, but facts about Tau Ceti, Art, Cora, Omphalos Rift etc. Ancient goddess is only the spices on this way.

 

[Noobilite]

I’ve said many times, saying that again. This not the original, it’s a fan made replica based on the one shown in the stream.

But that is now the image in the codex for raxxla in the thumbnail. doesn't that make it part of the game. Maybe the fan was someone from FD, "leaking," something.

Yeah the way they managed to pinpoint the signal source made my head hurt trying to understand. Also late time I activated the map room I noticed that the map would drift slowly out the room not sure if it was a bug or not, but to get back on topic I'm not entirely convinced that this is the same route to Raxxla. Do we have any concrete evidence that Thargoids and Raxxla are even connected in a small way?

We'd have to find it and whittle it away as a possibility. And keep doing that with everything potentially. We don't know they aren't yet! 8)

We don't have any evidence that they are connected. The map has a specific purpose and it's not to find Raxxla.

The spiraling stars in the 'map room' are interesting though.

If anything in the thargoid realm is Raxxla related, I would guess Merope 5C is most likely. It's an unremarkable moon at the center(omphalos) of everything. The only thing interesting about it, is a peculiar orbital inclination.
Merope 5C has been more searched than any planet in the game. If there is something there, we are missing a key ingredient in the search.

Perhaps it's the cosmic enlightenment?

There are alot of seeming similarities and coincidences in raxxla related potential things and thargoid and other things. I'm starting to assume raxxla will be found at the end of the game by finding all other things or something. Maybe it is all leading there. If it's a path everyone has to take then maybe it's literally a path, "everyone," has to take. For themselves could mean they have to go through it on some level or as a whole like the royal, "we."

I going further in my trying to analyze the Hecate Wheel and it trinity. May something important being in the center of distances from three special systems? For example this three aspects of goddesses who brings light on the crossroads. For example something placed on the same distances from Artemis, Persephone and unknown Eileithyia (or Lucina, or Juno). Or even Shinrarta Dezhra. Probably nothing. Because it is too easy. Not too easy as a calculation, but too easy as an idea. Raxxla or key to it can't hide such oblivious way. I think if I will ready to find Raxxla some day, I should be read main Codex page of it. Not the toast, but facts about Tau Ceti, Art, Cora, Omphalos Rift etc. Ancient goddess is only the spices on this way.

Maybe the hectate circle is just like the above triangulations in 3d. Could they represent aspects of pathing? The fun thing about mysticism is that it was all original practical knowledge used a long time ago in some society. Even if we don't know all of what it is. So having it do something useful is a good way to deal with it and try to understand it.

 

[Han_Zen]

Minor technical point - the intersection of two spheres is a circle, so is an infinite series of points (except in the special case where the sum of the radius of the spheres is exactly the same as the distance between the centre of the spheres, in which case the intersection is an infinitesimal point.)

Except in the special case above a third system or sphere is always needed to be able to calculate specific points.


Additional note for anyone who finds themselves having to try this stuff - if searching for systems via one of the databases a different approach can be done which can sometimes work with 2 systems or occasionally even 1, as when searching the database you don’t have to actually calculate the points of intersection, you just have to run a search on the database along the lines of {Find systems where ‘distance from system a’ = ‘distance 1 +/- error’ And ‘distance from system b’ = ‘distance 2 +/- error’ And etc.}.

The error value on the distance has to be included to allow for rounding errors and approximations in the figures being used.

The issue with this approach is that if a system isn’t in the database then you will have no direct way of knowing it’s not there if you do get some results, and if you don’t get any results then you don’t know specific locations to check in game, whereas if you calculate the co-ordinates and don’t get a match for the co-ordinates from the database, then you know there’s a high chance there’s a system that’s not in the database, and can check the locations directly in game via Galmap.

Spot on.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

On that image there are three T. artefacts. Thargoid Sensor pointing at Merope (?), Thargoid Probe pointing to M. 5c (?), but there is and third one, Thargoid Link. Where do T. Link point at?

have you tried google?
TL point to goid structures

 

[Han_Zen]

have you tried google?
TL point to goid structures

I think they point to Merope, if they are not activated.
It’s dificult to see because of the design, but I think it’s correct.

 

[Thatchinho]

Spot on.

Tickets for my next talk:

’How to search for geometrical patterns in the position of systems in order to identify potential monolith network locations (only to find that when systems are given via Galnet, they weren’t even in the database anyway)’

are available now from all the usual outlets.

 

[Noobilite]

This may be known but this whole are is off limits and near thargoid infested space... I like to explore these bright star clusters. Can't even get close to it. This whole region is locked with unknown permits for 1000's of ly!

https://imgur.com/a/8igBwq3

These images are from the giant space hotdog near california nebula. NGC 1333...

My favorite things to explore are super bright star clusters and giant space weiners.. This upsets my exploration dreams very heavily!

Here is another one you can go to. I got farther down the california dog and you can start to see another one nearer the loop along with the off limits one. I also found another little beauty!

https://imgur.com/a/thd9xoQ

 

[Garand1987]

This may be known but this whole are is off limits and near thargoid infested space... I like to explore these bright star clusters. Can't even get close to it. This whole region is locked with unknown permits for 1000's of ly!

https://imgur.com/a/8igBwq3

These images are from the giant space hotdog near california nebula. NGC 1333...

My favorite things to explore are super bright star clusters and giant space weiners.. This upsets my exploration dreams very heavily!

Yeah there’s a number of fairly large swaths of the galaxy locked behind an “unknown permit”. Been waiting to get into the Horsehead Dark Region for what seems like an eternity but apparently FDEV hasn’t finished with whatever it is they’re doing in there yet. Either that there is a way to get the “unknown permit” that no one has figured out for a few years.

 

[otoboke]

Guru, you're the best thing going in terms of tinfoil. Those even a tidbit interested in his ramblings should read the chat replay. The video isn't that insightful past the first few minutes!

Spoiler

[video=youtube;sosvIhq_Tv4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sosvIhq_Tv4[/video]