ED and the Oculus Rift Developers Kit 2 (DK2) Discussion Thread

Aldric

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cmdr awesome said:
Interesting. What made you go for two 970s instead of a single 980 given the well documented latency issues with using SLI with Oculus?
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For these reasons :http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2014/07/28/nvidia-vr-tech/1

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/ar...us-the-only-choice-for-virtual-reality-gaming

also i play many other graphically demanding games and i want those games to run at the best resolution and with the best performance, SLI these days has come a long way from the early days when most games could not take advantage of the tech, although there are still a few that cant, but even with SLI turned off and using just one card i have that covered too due to the power of these cards, this coupled with my Intel i5 4690K unlocked CPU ensures that i never have to turn ingame settings down.
 
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KING5TON

KING5TON
This article claims that AMD will be announcing new cards on Thursday.
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The red pill, blue pill advert IMO relates to the matrix which is a VR-esque film and may be indicating that AMD are upping the stakes VR wise and that their new cards will either be VR centric or at the very least contains some new cool tech and boosts VR performance.

I might buy a new card soon but I'm holding off to see what the next gen AMD cards are like first. If they're as good or better than a 980 and one up Nvidia on VR performance I will probably go AMD again.
 

Flamepreacher

Flamepreacher
Think I'm going to pick up a 970 for now to replace my 770 which I hope will give me the FPS now I need for the Rift.

I was thinking of budgeting to pick up another one next year to SLI but I guess I'll need to upgrade my Power Unit (550W) as well, what sort of wattage roughly do you guys think it'll take?
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Flamepreacher said:
Think I'm going to pick up a 970 for now to replace my 770 which I hope will give me the FPS now I need for the Rift.

I was thinking of budgeting to pick up another one next year to SLI but I guess I'll need to upgrade my Power Unit (550W) as well, what sort of wattage roughly do you guys think it'll take?
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I read that at a push a 600w psu would allow you to SLI GTX980s (pretty much maxing the psu there)

so maybe you would get away with it with 970s if your 550W is decent.

if it was me though with a 550w psu and looking to SLI I would probably upgrade, and if you are upgrading and think that SLI may be something you will be wanting for the future, imo you would be looking for something around the 750w mark just to future proof.

at the end of the day its never bad news to go a little overkill, the psu will only deliver what is pulled from it, and a psu operating well within its spec is more efficient than one which is operating at max capacity..

also, just becasue the 900 series is power efficient, who knows what you will upgrade to next and it would be nice to have a psu for all occasions imo.
 
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Flamepreacher

Flamepreacher
Mad Mike said:
if it was me though with a 550w psu and looking to SLI I would probably upgrade, and if you are upgrading and think that SLI may be something you will be wanting for the future, imo you would be looking for something around the 750w mark just to future proof.
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Thanks for the answer, I think you are right and it wouldn't do any harm to budget a little extra and do things comfortably.

I'm annoyed at myself though as I originally wanted a 750W in there last year but had to trim the budget, knew it would come and bite me on the bum :p
 

StuartGT

StuartGT
Flamepreacher said:
Think I'm going to pick up a 970 for now to replace my 770 which I hope will give me the FPS now I need for the Rift.

I was thinking of budgeting to pick up another one next year to SLI but I guess I'll need to upgrade my Power Unit (550W) as well, what sort of wattage roughly do you guys think it'll take?
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Mad Mike said:
I read that at a push a 600w psu would allow you to SLI GTX980s (pretty much maxing your psu there)

so maybe you would get away with it with 970s if your 550W is decent.

if it was me though with a 550w psu and looking to SLI I would probably upgrade, and if you are upgrading and think that SLI may be something you will be wanting for the future, imo you would be looking for something around the 750w mark just to future proof.

at the end of the day its never bad news to go a little overkill, the psu will only deliver what is pulled from it, and a psu operating well within its spec is more efficient than one which is operating at max capacity..

also, just becasue the 900 series is power efficient, who knows what you will upgrade to next and it would be nice to have a psu for all occasions imo.
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I agree with Mike here, you can't go wrong by future proofing your PSU, whereas underspeccing risks killing your components if the PSU overloads and pops.

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp is a great PSU calculator for giving you the minimum PSU to go for - they don't list the 900 series yet, so select GTX 660Ti (150W) as it uses slightly more than the 970 (145W).

Also note that higher quality PSUs will be efficiency rated for their output, e.g an 85% efficient 700W PSU will happily maintain 595W at full load 24/7.
 

Herne

Herne
I'm hoping that beta 2 SLI will improve my overall DK2 experience especially in space stations.

I'm betting that at least for me a few extra ms latency will be a small price to pay for a much higher frame rate.
 

Flamepreacher

Flamepreacher
GTuk said:
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp is a great PSU calculator for giving you the minimum PSU to go for - they don't list the 900 series yet, so select GTX 660Ti (150W) as it uses slightly more than the 970 (145W).
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Thats exactly what I was looking for, much appreciated! I'll pick up the single 970 for now and bookmark that for next year when I'll upgrade the PSU and pick up another 970. It's nice to have a plan I want to be as ready as I can for the CV1.

I've never SLI'd before i have to admit, do the two GPU's have to be identical or just pretty close?

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NoiseCrime

NoiseCrime
Can I get some brief responses as to whether I should upgrade or just buy a new PC based on wanting to be able to run ED on the DK2.

My current spec is roughly a 4 year old PC
ASUS P6t Deluxe (x58) PCI-Express, Intel i7 920, 6Gb Tripple channel DDR3, Nvidia GTX 465 1Gb

Obviously the main upgrade would be the GPU to I guess a 970 or 980, however i'm worried that being an old motherboard with PCI-E 1 or 1.1 that might bottleneck it? The CPU isn't too bad, but could probably be worth upgrading soon. Memory I really need to ramp up for work, probably 16Gb, then get a SSD and I need a bigger HHD. Not sure about my PSU no less than 600w I think.

Overall I feel nearly every major component needs upgrading and ultimately if that means the motherboard then I think i'm probably just better off buying a new PC. If it weren't for DK2 and a couple of games I could maybe get away with a GPU update, but that would likely last an extra year or so.

Basically I never tend to upgrade, I just wait 4-6 years and buy something high-ish end. I think that probably makes the most sense here, but would be interested for any comments. I'm not looking for details, just whether upgrade or new PC is best.

Thanks
 

edguy

edguy
I'm running on an older board and a worse CPU (i5) than that and have no issues with the DK2, Personally would just upgrade your gfx to a 780ti - The Ti's a coming down in price with the recent 980's on release.

Unless you have money to burn, wouldn't warrant upgrading your entire pc.

NoiseCrime said:
Can I get some brief responses as to whether I should upgrade or just buy a new PC based on wanting to be able to run ED on the DK2.

My current spec is roughly a 4 year old PC
ASUS P6t Deluxe (x58) PCI-Express, Intel i7 920, 6Gb Tripple channel DDR3, Nvidia GTX 465 1Gb

Obviously the main upgrade would be the GPU to I guess a 970 or 980, however i'm worried that being an old motherboard with PCI-E 1 or 1.1 that might bottleneck it? The CPU isn't too bad, but could probably be worth upgrading soon. Memory I really need to ramp up for work, probably 16Gb, then get a SSD and I need a bigger HHD. Not sure about my PSU no less than 600w I think.

Overall I feel nearly every major component needs upgrading and ultimately if that means the motherboard then I think i'm probably just better off buying a new PC. If it weren't for DK2 and a couple of games I could maybe get away with a GPU update, but that would likely last an extra year or so.

Basically I never tend to upgrade, I just wait 4-6 years and buy something high-ish end. I think that probably makes the most sense here, but would be interested for any comments. I'm not looking for details, just whether upgrade or new PC is best.

Thanks
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cmdr awesome

cmdr awesome

jhondidfool

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AMD hinted in twitter they may be working in VR, too. And, AFAIK, they're not yet ready to show the GCN3 generation (not in a year, at least), so we AMD users might have a big smile on our faces as well soon enough :)
 

NoiseCrime

NoiseCrime
edguy said:
I'm running on an older board and a worse CPU (i5) than that and have no issues with the DK2, Personally would just upgrade your gfx to a 780ti - The Ti's a coming down in price with the recent 980's on release.

Unless you have money to burn, wouldn't warrant upgrading your entire pc.
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Aw, thats not the answer I wanted to hear ;)

Thanks for the info though, interesting you are running an i5 and not having problems. I'll have to check out my motherboard and PSU ina bit more depth and make sure I could support something like a 780ti.
 

Nemon

Nemon
I'm looking at the Asus X99 motherboard, ddr4 ram and a nice little i7-5820K setup - and possibly a couple of GTX 980 to run in SLI-mode while using the DK2, but I'm not sure if both the nVidia announced VR Direct system works with the DK2 as well as the game itself doing SLI at the same time. I know SLI support has been announced for Beta 2, but will VR Direct work as well?

Anyone else considering a similar upgrade?
 

jabokai

jabokai
Nemon said:
I'm looking at the Asus X99 motherboard, ddr4 ram and a nice little i7-5820K setup - and possibly a couple of GTX 980 to run in SLI-mode while using the DK2, but I'm not sure if both the nVidia announced VR Direct system works with the DK2 as well as the game itself doing SLI at the same time. I know SLI support has been announced for Beta 2, but will VR Direct work as well?

Anyone else considering a similar upgrade?
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I'm currently parts picking an X99/5820 rig with single (for now) 980... takes me a while though, sometimes I think I should buy a pre-built machine! ;)
 

Baton

Baton
NoiseCrime said:
Aw, thats not the answer I wanted to hear ;)
I'll have to check out my motherboard and PSU ina bit more depth and make sure I could support something like a 780ti.
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Yes, I agree, CPU and memory is no issue, the only bit you need to upgrade is graphic card, there is good chance you will not need to change PSU with 970, so this is what I would aim for.
And of course SSD, I'm surprized not everyone has one yet :)
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Nemon said:
I'm looking at the Asus X99 motherboard, ddr4 ram and a nice little i7-5820K setup - and possibly a couple of GTX 980 to run in SLI-mode while using the DK2, but I'm not sure if both the nVidia announced VR Direct system works with the DK2 as well as the game itself doing SLI at the same time. I know SLI support has been announced for Beta 2, but will VR Direct work as well?

Anyone else considering a similar upgrade?
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TBH for DK2 i do not think you will need to SLI a 980.

IIWY I would save a few quid by getting a single 980, then pick up a 2nd 980 when the CV1 launches.

you will save money, and also probably a headache as by that point drivers will have settled down.
 
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