The Quest To Find Raxxla

Cunder

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Midian Cabal said:
It's not discredited if Princess Astrohphel and Spiraling Stars contains concealed facts about Raxxla's location. Some tried to discredit it, because "these details [...] bear a striking resemblance to the children's story".

Edit: It's not a virtual, but parallel universe.
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At this point I am borderline on both ideas cause at this point it hasn't necessarily help us to find anything new. (Astrophil and Stella). It is possible because we are misinterpreting the sonnets or clearly we are not seeing what FD seeing. Due to the fact there is so many Sonnets so many words to actually go through and try to piece everything together that could relate to Raxxla itself. It's very time consuming.

And the other reason which results me to be in between the idea of codex Princess Astrohphel and Spiraling Stars isn't exactly the same title of the actual book Astrophel and Stella. There are added words and meaning to the title on the codex has a different representation to the actual book. And naturally I doubt you can call Astrophel and Stella a children story.

Penelope Devereux which was supposedly the inspiration to the actual book wasn't a Princess she was a Countess. The actual book only mentions Princess ( or this case how Philip Sidney spells it Princesse) 3 times through the entire book.

I'm referencing this out of this book.

The codex wants to portray there character as a Princess in Elite lore the only faction that uses such titles is Empire by close resemblance and coincidentally Empire was modeled after ancient Rome.

Aisling Duval is the only person in Elite that is called Princess even considering how much controversy she has against her even as a child.

Spiraling Stars could represent the people around her, or her lineage as they all had interesting views of the Empire that "Spiral" in certain directions.
 
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Midian Cabal

Midian Cabal
Cunder said:
At this point I am borderline on both ideas cause at this point it hasn't necessarily help us to find anything new. (Astrophil and Stella). It is possible because we are misinterpreting the sonnets or clearly we are not seeing what FD seeing. Due to the fact there is so many Sonnets so many words to actually go through and try to piece everything together that could relate to Raxxla itself. It's very time consuming.

And the other reason which results me to be in between the idea of codex Princess Astrohphel and Spiraling Stars isn't the exactly the same title of the actual book Astrophel and Stella. There are added words and meaning to the title on the codex has a different representation to the actual book. And naturally I doubt you can call Astrophel and Stella a children story.

Penelope Devereux which was supposedly the inspiration to the actual book wasn't a Princess she was a Countess. The actual book only mentions Princess ( or this case how Philip Sidney spells it Princesse) 3 times through the entire book.

I'm referencing this out of this book.

The codex wants to portray there character as a Princess in Elite lore the only faction that uses such titles is Empire by close resemblance and coincidentally Empire was modeled after ancient Rome.

Aisling Duval is the only person in Elite that is called Princess even considering how much controversy she has against her even as a child.

Spiraling Stars could represent the people around her, or her lineage as they all had interesting views of the Empire that "Spiral" in certain directions.
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You want spiraling stars? Thargoid observatory. Like in every good conspiracy theory, everything's connected. ;)
 

Midian Cabal

Midian Cabal
Cunder said:
Well I recall certain aspect of lore that talk about Thargoids to put fear in children based on "myth" I can't recall where I read this I'll have to look it up.
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‘The story goes Mic was searching for a supposed alien race called the Thargoids, but disappeared without trace. There’s a monument to him on Argent’s Claim, I think. It’s one of those stories that has grown in the telling, like the Thargoids. It’s all rumours and hearsay …’
She saw him raise his eyebrows.
‘It’s not hearsay?’ she asked, feeling her stomach contract in a mixture of alarm and excitement.
Edmund licked his lips. ‘Mic Turner,’ Edmund said, ‘had an interesting life. Have you ever heard of INRA?’
The Intergalactic Naval Reserve Arm?
Tsu tried to recall her history. They had been a clandestine group, operating beyond Federal, Imperial or Alliance jurisdiction, perhaps even above them. Ancient history now, though.
‘I’ve heard them mentioned in the records, there’s doubt as to whether they were real or not, however.’
‘Oh, they were real all right,’ Edmund said.
‘And the Thargoids?’ Tsu asked, not sure she wanted to hear the answer.
Just tales, stories told to kids to freak them out. Armour plated insectoid killers lurking on the edges of space … nonsense, surely?
‘Evidence suggests that they’re real too, though no one has seen any sign of them for over a hundred and seventy years.’
Tsu swallowed.
‘Much of the whole story is true,’ Edmund explained. ‘Intelligence reports suggest that INRA developed a bioweapon and used it against the Thargoids way back in the past – perhaps we wiped them out. Mic Turner went looking for the Thargoids a hundred years later. He may have found them, we’ll never know. It’s more likely that Mic found out something about what INRA did back then and got killed for it. INRA was disbanded shortly afterwards.’
Tsu’s head was spinning.
‘But what has this got to do with the Engineers?’ Edmund leant forward.
‘One of the Engineers is a chap by the name of Bill Turner.’
Related? Or just a coincidence …?
‘He operates locally,’ Edmund continued, ‘Alioth 4a. Specialises in drive thrusters and speed upgrades. Oh, we’ve checked him out dozens of times; spot audits, unannounced inspections, he always comes up legit. Always pays his taxes, records all straight and even.’ ‘That I didn’t know. And you think he’s suspiciously clean?’
‘Squeaky.’
‘He’s a relation to the other Turners?’
‘He has claimed to be an illegitimate son in the past. Whether that’s true or not we don’t know. We’ve got no precedent to bring him in for questioning, and if we did, we’d likely blow our only line of investigation.’
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Wagar, Drew. Elite Dangerous: Premonition (pp. 84-85). Frontier Developments plc. Kindle Edition.
 

SteveLaw

SteveLaw
Do we have a master list of systems with eight moons orbiting gas giants? I have one to cross off - Flyeia Dryoae BM-K d9-34 B 3 H - nothing apparent from scans and flying in orbit.

Edit: Although the moon itself isn't uninteresting...
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Midian Cabal

Midian Cabal
SteveLaw said:
Do we have a master list of systems with eight moons orbiting gas giants? I have one to cross off - Flyeia Dryoae BM-K d9-34 B 3 H - nothing apparent from scans and flying in orbit.
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I have it at home, but you won't like it. It includes only systems that are less than 1,000 531 Ly from Sol and it's 10 pages long I think.

Edit: Found it. 5,031 bodies, not filtered by gas giants, sorted by distance from Sol. The list is courtesy of CMDR Fartlily, here's the original thread on Reddit.
 
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yelboc

yelboc

Midian Cabal

Midian Cabal
nicedevill said:
Because you got to have some starting point and if you have better suggestion, feel free to share. Besides, it certainly does look like in-game screenshot.
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Assuming that you're in working force I'll ask you a question: did your company pay a photographer that took actual photos, or did they put some stock photos on the website?
I assume that only a few people in FDev know the exact locations of Raxxla and the TDW's station and a designer that made that screenshot is certainly not one of them.
I'll share my suggestion in another post. :)
 

Midian Cabal

Midian Cabal
Alright fellow tinfoilers, I hope that your hats are freshly folded with enough layers and that they have no holes, because I have a theory that is mine and it belongs to me, and it's about the first part of the TDW's toast:
"To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies!"

I believe that the Egyptian lead isn't properly followed and explored. If we go back to the very first mention of Raxxla in The Alien World - the Complete Illustrate Guide by Steven Eisler, we can read that Raxxlans founded Egypt. Of course that book isn't considered canon, but I find it hard to believe that DB switched from Egyptian to Greek context in this riddle, regarding the usual interpretation that the mother of galaxies is Cassiopeia.

Therefore I turned to the Egyptian interpretation and found some convincing results - in Egyptian mythology there are two sky goddesses: Hathor and Nut and I'd say that both are two manifestations of the same deity. One of Hathor's titles is Lady of Heaven (Nebt Nut).

Sometimes she is represented as a holy cow whose milk (Greek: galaxias - milky) created our galaxy, and sometimes she's represented as the Milky Way itself:
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Interpreted like that, our brow should be somewhere in or around the Gemini constellation.
 

Midian Cabal

Midian Cabal
yelboc said:
there is a google doc is at post #112 in the thread, if that helps. As I'd said in that thread - we have so few straws to clutch at, that anything is worth a try..

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most recent doc update here:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...which-system-is-it.477422/page-8#post-7742418

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Oh I agree that no stone should be left unturned and that anything that helps reducing the number of systems is ok. It's just that from my perspective as a solo explorer I have to assert probabilities so I can invest my limited time. :)
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Midian Cabal said:
Alright fellow tinfoilers, I hope that your hats are freshly folded with enough layers and that they have no holes, because I have a theory that is mine and it belongs to me, and it's about the first part of the TDW's toast:
"To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies!"

I believe that the Egyptian lead isn't properly followed and explored. If we go back to the very first mention of Raxxla in The Alien World - the Complete Illustrate Guide by Steven Eisler, we can read that Raxxlans founded Egypt. Of course that book isn't considered canon, but I find it hard to believe that DB switched from Egyptian to Greek context in this riddle, regarding the usual interpretation that the mother of galaxies is Cassiopeia.

Therefore I turned to the Egyptian interpretation and found some convincing results - in Egyptian mythology there are two sky goddesses: Hathor and Nut and I'd say that both are two manifestations of the same deity. One of Hathor's titles is Lady of Heaven (Nebt Nut).

Sometimes she is represented as a holy cow whose milk (Greek: galaxias - milky) created our galaxy, and sometimes she's represented as the Milky Way itself:
5705ca11313f58caf4ed884db3888710.jpg
nut-milky-way1.jpg


Interpreted like that, our brow should be somewhere in or around the Gemini constellation.
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I made a post about this, a while back. Can't find it now, because neither forum search nor Google advanced can find old posts in the new forum.

Anyway, the essence was that Castor is Alpha Gemini. Short form is aGem. A Gem is close to a jewel. :)

Didn't find anything in Castor though.
 
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