Me too. Tho I may have gone too far with one (or more, probably more knowing me!) of my comments - I got a warning for "flaming" but no example of whatever it was that I said. Someone please enlighten me!
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I can't speak for other people, but for me ARGUING about space games is nearly as much fun as PLAYING space games. Who knew?
Well, that's literally not true. There might be nothing you enjoy doing. But as it's not Elite: Keeping Jaffz Entertained, I don't think that's a decisive issue.
I once got an infraction for trolling when I was quite clearly flaming! I very nearly wrote to complain
If I were on a desert Island and could take only one game with me, it would probably be ED.
But I don't think it's underrated. I remember when I first started playing this game I was so thrilled, I tried to convince others about how awesome it was. But a lot of people said it was boring and grindy. At the time I didn't understand what they meant. Now I do.
It's not underrated because it's very niche. Only a certain type of person is willing to invest the time and effort it takes to figure out how to play this game. It's just not intuitive in terms of design. It requires way too many external videos and websites to figure out what to do. Engineering upgrades, Guardian upgrades are just plain convoluted. Only a certain niche are willing to put up with all of that.
ED falls far short of its potential but it's the only space sim out there. The ships and galaxy are amazing. The gamplay not so much. That's why we have so many members who seem to hate the game yet haven't left. It's a love hate relationship due ot the disparity between these awesome ships and vast galaxy and the very repetitive and shallow gameplay.
Lately, I've been enjoying the game more and playing more than ever. Again, it's the one game I would take with me on a desert island.
But I don't think it's underrated. I remember when I first started playing this game I was so thrilled, I tried to convince others about how awesome it was. But a lot of people said it was boring and grindy. At the time I didn't understand what they meant. Now I do.
It's not underrated because it's very niche. Only a certain type of person is willing to invest the time and effort it takes to figure out how to play this game. It's just not intuitive in terms of design. It requires way too many external videos and websites to figure out what to do. Engineering upgrades, Guardian upgrades are just plain convoluted. Only a certain niche are willing to put up with all of that.
ED falls far short of its potential but it's the only space sim out there. The ships and galaxy are amazing. The gamplay not so much. That's why we have so many members who seem to hate the game yet haven't left. It's a love hate relationship due ot the disparity between these awesome ships and vast galaxy and the very repetitive and shallow gameplay.
Lately, I've been enjoying the game more and playing more than ever. Again, it's the one game I would take with me on a desert island.
Still have no idea what "flaming" is, I guess it was something bad tho!I once got an infraction for trolling when I was quite clearly flaming! I very nearly wrote to complain
I am totally addicted. Spent the whole morning trying to figure out mining, getting the hang of it, but need to figure out where the good stuff is, not gonna get rich mining nothing but water and lithium hydroxide! Still I havn't died for almost a whole day so that's an improvement on the previous 24 hours!
Flaming is being abusive. Trolling is (roughly speaking) causing arguments.
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I like the salt shakers, they make me look less like a grumpy Gus and more like a positive, constructive person, which is what I want to be when I grow up!
Aha, that explains it. I did call someone an idiot for abusing a noob who was looking for some advice. My bad!Flaming is being abusive. Trolling is (roughly speaking) causing arguments.
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I could answer that question but then I would be warned again, maybe get in trouble this time!
I agree. The strength of Elite is it's timescale on which things evolve. Its strength is that it actually simulates our galaxy.
I took me 2000 hours to join a player faction. I love that expending and defending the presence in a system or stations is actually quite a lot of work. Not necessary the most adventurous all the time but in a way if you commit to be part of a group something very rewarding.
Same for Powerplay. Political power change is slow not easy and only possible through some effort.
What you're talking about is EVE, ED will never be that. That being said, it sure as hell needs fleshing out for damn sure
The new era is supposed to do it. We will see.
I spent a lot of time in a bit similar game (its sandbox in space) called Empyrion. Difference between Elite and Empyrion is building of your own stuff from blocks, that means once you arrive into system, you land on planet, build your base usually in effort to mine resources to capture more territory and be able to engage in PvP war. You have to establish defenses, gather more pilots and such if you want to succeed. Sadly game is developed by very small studio, its buggy and they pretty much messed it up...but idea behind is amazing and so enjoyable (planetary landings, flora, fauna, aliens, bases, PvP, loot, space battles, capital ships...most of this you can build or use bla bla)
After this I find it hard to feel like Elite is dynamic. It feels to me like very static universe where all important things happened on Thursday. Don't get me wrong, I know about BGS etc, but it feels like what you can achive is that station controlling faction is different, that's it. If Ill fly through system where you BGS guys finaly won, I wont even notice something was going on there. From my perspective it will be the same system as on start.
I miss building our own production facilities a bit like in X series, I miss building military outpost to close areas of space and war over them etc. I see many places where this would be so cool like Navy ranks/Power Play where orders are given by Superpowers and players go and join the war.
I want to see Federation burned down. Stations destroyed, Feds in slavery. Empty place in space full of wreckages of ships, stations, scavengers. I want to see them run into deep space, hiding there, building up their economy again, manufacturing fleets again, coming for revenge.
Then I want more of them enslaved again.
Until Ill see this it will never be sandbox, it will be just hardcoded, defined playground where you are allowed to touch some crumbs. Even that is still pretty good but only because theres not game allowing what I described. Maybe EVE but that's different story.
Any chances that Ill see something like this in Elite?
Btw after 5k hours of strictly insane PvP war in Empyrion where battles took even 24 hours and we had to switch as we have to work or sleep I somehow don't even try to do PvP in Elite. From what I see its only about dogfighting, I would gladly do that but in CQC, but somehow I cant find my ships there in menu, probably bug
After this I find it hard to feel like Elite is dynamic. It feels to me like very static universe where all important things happened on Thursday. Don't get me wrong, I know about BGS etc, but it feels like what you can achive is that station controlling faction is different, that's it. If Ill fly through system where you BGS guys finaly won, I wont even notice something was going on there. From my perspective it will be the same system as on start.
I miss building our own production facilities a bit like in X series, I miss building military outpost to close areas of space and war over them etc. I see many places where this would be so cool like Navy ranks/Power Play where orders are given by Superpowers and players go and join the war.
I want to see Federation burned down. Stations destroyed, Feds in slavery. Empty place in space full of wreckages of ships, stations, scavengers. I want to see them run into deep space, hiding there, building up their economy again, manufacturing fleets again, coming for revenge.
Then I want more of them enslaved again.
Until Ill see this it will never be sandbox, it will be just hardcoded, defined playground where you are allowed to touch some crumbs. Even that is still pretty good but only because theres not game allowing what I described. Maybe EVE but that's different story.
Any chances that Ill see something like this in Elite?
Btw after 5k hours of strictly insane PvP war in Empyrion where battles took even 24 hours and we had to switch as we have to work or sleep I somehow don't even try to do PvP in Elite. From what I see its only about dogfighting, I would gladly do that but in CQC, but somehow I cant find my ships there in menu, probably bug
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I always liken Elite D to a project that someone wanted to prove to themselves that they had the technical skills to reproduce the milky way using a random generating engine. (Would have made a great final project for a masters degree in programming) Now that they proved it could be done they now are faced with the problem: How on Earth can I fill this with an actual game. All I say is good luck with that.
But what I like so much about this game that it is constantly evolving and the dev's must listen to us because I posted this in 2017 and it seems they have delivered on this. I am really impressed!
FD can I have a billion credits for my idea please
Apr 4, 2017
Any chance of mega ships that are constantly moving around systems which you can dock and depart from? A Galactic bus service or sorts? I think explorers would love this. Or is this in the new patch? thanks
But what I like so much about this game that it is constantly evolving and the dev's must listen to us because I posted this in 2017 and it seems they have delivered on this. I am really impressed!
FD can I have a billion credits for my idea please
Apr 4, 2017
Any chance of mega ships that are constantly moving around systems which you can dock and depart from? A Galactic bus service or sorts? I think explorers would love this. Or is this in the new patch? thanks
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You've created an amazing thread, Commander: only 84 (approx) responses and over 6,000 views ! How did you manage that !! ?Who's with me commanders o7
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Viajero
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What do you mean exactly by lack of competition?
Are you not able to make a reasonable assumption of the definition? There are few games that significantly overlap the range of features ED offers, it has little to no direct competition, and competition generally improves the breed.
Viajero
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If you do, without knowing a bit more, you could be jumping to conclusions.
Every time I have seen similar discussions, each player comes up with its own definition, and most of them vary. Competition can be defined not only on specific features but also on audience, money access, more generally game theme, and a large etc of other dimensions.
Elite certainly has competition. Maybe not just the one that OP is thinking of, or very personally defining.
So before trying to jump to conclusions with a randomly chosen "definition" I prefer to understand better where the poster is coming from.
What's wrong with the guy just giving an opinion? If you want to justify your own opinion go ahead, others don't need to endlessly justify theirs.
Viajero
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Absolutely nothing wrong. I just would like to understand it better. If you do not that is fine aswell, knock yourself out.
Could you name a few games that can be considered competition to ED?