Well I mean the 'leak' is essentially: Guns, Thargoids, Bases. Never know....
(Waiiiit a minute. Admit it, you wrote that thing
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The 2020 Dev Run: As Big As The Launch Run (?)
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Well I mean the 'leak' is essentially: Guns, Thargoids, Bases. Never know....
(Waiiiit a minute. Admit it, you wrote that thing
)
Ah, yes, okay ... so maybe some of my premise needs adjusting to fit with the lore better but imagine:
- Story based DLC where you sign up for the Defense Force and are given missions
- Missions involve espionage against the returned Guardians; sneaking out with scooped intelligence; maybe taking on a few low level ships; a few planet based missions - mix it up!
- Other missions are Thargoid based, searching for ways to better fight the Guardians
- At various points you unlock access to anti-Thargoid weapons to help you succeed in the Thargoid based missions
- Story culminates in hitting Thargoid crash sites to retrieve specialised materials (involves fighting Thargoid Scouts) and delivering them to a specific location
- Once enough mats have been delivered by the community at large (Community Goal!) a Thargoid Jump Gate is built
- This jump gate provides access to a multi-player “Raid” where you jump into Thargoid space to fight full on Thargoids in order to steal weaponry/tech to fight the returned Guardians
- Once at least one group have finished this, a custom CZ (Raid #2) unlocks near Sol which is the final battle against the Guardians.
- To compete this second “Raid” you’ll need those Thargoid derived anti-Guardian weapons ...
- For every completion of Raid #1, Ram Tah gets closer to reverse engineering the weapons so whilst initially only those who finish Raid #1 will be able to tackle Raid #2, eventually the weapons will become purchasable and then anyone can do Raid #2 even if they haven’t completed the first
And other stuff, too!
This just sounds like the inverse of what we have.
thargoids attacking, and we use gaurdian tech to defeat them.
But... they have nothing to announce right now...
Yup ... that was entirely the point: big twist, Guardians turn out to be bad guys and we have to steal stuff from the Thargoids (who will obviously defend said stuff) to fight ‘em ... except, Story Led with proper Multi-Player missions (Raids) as clarified in my later post.
Personally I have very little interest in “space legs” (I bought a space flight simulation not a First Person Walker) and maybe slightly more intrigued by atmos/earth like landings depending on exactly what that would mean.
I’m far more interested in a story or purpose ... for me, the Thargoids should have been introduced via a Story Based set of missions whereby you discover evidence, fight some early ‘goids, are given access to upgraded weaponary and culminates in unlocking a mix of single-player/match made (Normal) and multi-player/non-matchmade (Hard) repeatable scenarios (CZs, specialist jump points, etc) for fighting large numbers of them.
Instead we got ”spend hours collecting random stuff you read about on the internet in order to be able to then start looking for aliens which apparently threaten humanities very existence but none of the powers seems to care enough to actually have a plan and actively recruit pilots for fighting them”
Now, that ship has sailed but a switcheroo where the Guardians return as the enemy? Well that would be an opportunity for a Story Led introduction to both Thargoid and Guardian combat.
Pretty safe bet it's one of the roadmapped expansions...
(Hell that stuff is written into the old LEP sales page...)
I've been wondering. Given that they're treating this DLC as closer to a 'single big release' they might do a much more prolonged hype run + beta than Horizons. Something a touch closer to the launch hype, but minus alphas etc. (Which lord knows we could do with, in lieu of meaty tideover like Carriers etc).
That'd sit nice with an Expo tease maybe. But could totally see them hanging tight til like Q2 2020 otherwise :/
I can think of no better way to overhype and underdeliver. I'd hope they've learnt their lesson.
It’s legs!
But I wanted atmos!
It’s atmos!
But I wanted legs!
It’s atmos and legs!
Oh....BUGS!
But I wanted atmos!
It’s atmos!
But I wanted legs!
It’s atmos and legs!
Oh....BUGS!
I dunno, long-term betas can deliver some hard reality. (Not that it'd stop half of us theorycrafting vertical slice theories
)Updated the OP a bit. Mainly to reflect the 'end of 2020' info, and a source I found for pre-launch staffing.
Now I wish we could still edit titles. It should read:
The 2020 Dev Run: Bigger Than The Launch Run (?)
Now I wish we could still edit titles. It should read:
The 2020 Dev Run: Bigger Than The Launch Run (?)
When FD invite all their favourite content creators to FD towers we will know were getting close to FD talking about the big 2020 update.
spot on, I too don't give a furry rats crack for the 2020 update. Been waiting two years for ice planets and fleet carriers. I don't buy FD's explanation about bug hunting. I don't think they were ever intended for release last year or this year but were announced to string us along and keep the community paying the bills as per the leak that came up earlier on this year.
Expect nothing and you won't be disappointed.
Then, when you do get something positive, you can be all happy!
That's what I do. So much of what been added to the game is beyond fiddly that I can't be bothered. Don't mind the wait, it's not as if I'm playing the game as much as in the past.
To quote Doris Day: "Que sera, sera!".
Then, when you do get something positive, you can be all happy!
That's what I do. So much of what been added to the game is beyond fiddly that I can't be bothered. Don't mind the wait, it's not as if I'm playing the game as much as in the past.
To quote Doris Day: "Que sera, sera!".
Stealthie
Banned
The 2020 Dev Run: Bigger Than The Launch Run (?)
It might as well be "Fleet Carriers Development: Bigger than the Launch Run (?)"
And then you can start to think about all the implications of that - especially in regard to what sort of expansion they can produce in 2 years if they can't even get FC's working in 2 years.
If the 'majority' of the 100 were on Carriers, you'd be right Stealthie. But we're told they're not. They're on the DLC. And that staffing focus makes a difference.
(Granted it'd be good to know the split, and whether it's fluid. Is it roughly 70/30 for DLC/core? 80/20? Have devs been shuffled in either direction? Etc).
Stealthie
Banned
We were also told that FC's would be part of Beyond.
We were also also told they'd be released this December.
We know, for certain, that FDev's entire dev' team was working on Beyond because they told us that "The new Era" only entered pre-production in Q3 of 2018.
By that point, it's reasonable to assume the content of Beyond was "locked in".
And then they encounter problems with FC's which meant they couldn't be delivered and which, presumably, couldn't be resolved quickly regardless of how much extra brain-power was applied.
So, we move into 2019 with the majority of FDev's team working, allegedly, on "The new Era" and a smaller team overseeing content scheduled for release in 2019... including FC's.
Once again, it's reasonable to assume that the content for 2019 was "locked in" and considered deliverable by the team involved.
After all, a company doesn't make promotional video's about features it plans to introduce - especially ones that have already been delayed previously - if they have any intention of maintaining their credibility.
And yet now we're told that FC's are going to be delayed again in order to focus on fixing bugs.
That tells us that FC's aren't just "not quite ready yet" but that they're so far away from "not ready" that, once again, the application of extra brain-power for a short period wouldn't get them across the line.
Does anybody really think that FDev's office currently consists of, say, 90 people all beavering away on an amazing update while there's 10 stressed-out coders locked in the basement, desperately trying to complete FC's, fix bugs and deliver updates in isolation and they're being denied any assistance that might help them succeed?
Let's face it, if a company ever has to choose between achieving a milestone now and delaying something that's a year in the future, they're ALWAYS going to choose to do what's required to achieve the imminent milestone.
If they don't do that, it's because they can't achieve it, regardless of how much effort it takes.