The 2020 Dev Run: As Big As The Launch Run (?)

RELSPI

RELSPI
tolm said:
Elite Dangerous: Enemy of my Enemy

The Guardians have returned!! Angry at the human worlds, who have been desecrating Guardian holy sites in search of technological advances, they declare war on humanity and begin a steady march across the galaxy towards Earth - leaving a trail of destruction in their wake. Hastily, the Pilots Federation negotiates a fragile truce between Federation and Empire, forming the Galactic Humanity Defence Force in search of ways to defend against this new threat. But how can they be defeated? The only race to have done so were the infamous Thargoids ...

Experience a new, story-led, immersive DLC whereby you must investigate Thargoid crash sites for technology to unlock their galaxy-hopping abilities; jump across space-time to the Thargoid home planets; survive the Thargoid defences to retrieve vital weaponary and return to our universe equipped to fight the Guardians. When the dust settles ... who will be left standing and what we will have become?

-- Source: totally made up b*llocks

Heck, I can dream, right?!
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The Thargoids never beat the Guardians. The Guardians forced them into retreat, then killed themselves with robots.
 

Golgot

Golgot
tolm said:
Elite Dangerous: Enemy of my Enemy

The Guardians have returned!! Angry at the human worlds, who have been desecrating Guardian holy sites in search of technological advances, they declare war on humanity and begin a steady march across the galaxy towards Earth - leaving a trail of destruction in their wake. Hastily, the Pilots Federation negotiates a fragile truce between Federation and Empire, forming the Galactic Humanity Defence Force in search of ways to defend against this new threat. But how can they be defeated? The only race to have done so were the infamous Thargoids ...

Experience a new, story-led, immersive DLC whereby you must investigate Thargoid crash sites for technology to unlock their galaxy-hopping abilities; jump across space-time to the Thargoid home planets; survive the Thargoid defences to retrieve vital weaponary and return to our universe equipped to fight the Guardians. When the dust settles ... who will be left standing and what we will have become?

-- Source: totally made up b*llocks

Heck, I can dream, right?!
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Well I mean the 'leak' is essentially: Guns, Thargoids, Bases. Never know....

(Waiiiit a minute. Admit it, you wrote that thing ;))
 

tolm

T
RELSPI said:
The Thargoids never beat the Guardians. The Guardians forced them into retreat, then killed themselves with robots.
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Ah, yes, okay ... so maybe some of my premise needs adjusting to fit with the lore better but imagine:

  • Story based DLC where you sign up for the Defense Force and are given missions
  • Missions involve espionage against the returned Guardians; sneaking out with scooped intelligence; maybe taking on a few low level ships; a few planet based missions - mix it up!
  • Other missions are Thargoid based, searching for ways to better fight the Guardians
  • At various points you unlock access to anti-Thargoid weapons to help you succeed in the Thargoid based missions
  • Story culminates in hitting Thargoid crash sites to retrieve specialised materials (involves fighting Thargoid Scouts) and delivering them to a specific location
  • Once enough mats have been delivered by the community at large (Community Goal!) a Thargoid Jump Gate is built
  • This jump gate provides access to a multi-player “Raid” where you jump into Thargoid space to fight full on Thargoids in order to steal weaponry/tech to fight the returned Guardians
  • Once at least one group have finished this, a custom CZ (Raid #2) unlocks near Sol which is the final battle against the Guardians.
  • To compete this second “Raid” you’ll need those Thargoid derived anti-Guardian weapons ...
  • For every completion of Raid #1, Ram Tah gets closer to reverse engineering the weapons so whilst initially only those who finish Raid #1 will be able to tackle Raid #2, eventually the weapons will become purchasable and then anyone can do Raid #2 even if they haven’t completed the first
And other stuff, too!
 

Novo Mundus

Novo Mundus
tolm said:
Elite Dangerous: Enemy of my Enemy

The Guardians have returned!! Angry at the human worlds, who have been desecrating Guardian holy sites in search of technological advances, they declare war on humanity and begin a steady march across the galaxy towards Earth - leaving a trail of destruction in their wake. Hastily, the Pilots Federation negotiates a fragile truce between Federation and Empire, forming the Galactic Humanity Defence Force in search of ways to defend against this new threat. But how can they be defeated? The only race to have done so were the infamous Thargoids ...

Experience a new, story-led, immersive DLC whereby you must investigate Thargoid crash sites for technology to unlock their galaxy-hopping abilities; jump across space-time to the Thargoid home planets; survive the Thargoid defences to retrieve vital weaponary and return to our universe equipped to fight the Guardians. When the dust settles ... who will be left standing and what we will have become?

-- Source: totally made up b*llocks

Heck, I can dream, right?!
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This just sounds like the inverse of what we have.

thargoids attacking, and we use gaurdian tech to defeat them.
 

SAB380

S
Frontier’s silence can really work against them at times.
They know peoples 2 biggest wants are Earth like planets and spacelegs. If it ends up being 1 or both then people will be satisfied.

If it’s not those things they should manage expectations well in advance.
 

Novo Mundus

Novo Mundus
SAB380 said:
Frontier’s silence can really work against them at times.
They know peoples 2 biggest wants are Earth like planets and spacelegs. If it ends up being 1 or both then people will be satisfied.

If it’s not those things they should manage expectations well in advance.
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But... they have nothing to announce right now...
 

tolm

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Novo Mundus said:
This just sounds like the inverse of what we have.

thargoids attacking, and we use gaurdian tech to defeat them.
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Yup ... that was entirely the point: big twist, Guardians turn out to be bad guys and we have to steal stuff from the Thargoids (who will obviously defend said stuff) to fight ‘em ... except, Story Led with proper Multi-Player missions (Raids) as clarified in my later post.
 

tolm

T
SAB380 said:
Frontier’s silence can really work against them at times.
They know peoples 2 biggest wants are Earth like planets and spacelegs. If it ends up being 1 or both then people will be satisfied.

If it’s not those things they should manage expectations well in advance.
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Personally I have very little interest in “space legs” (I bought a space flight simulation not a First Person Walker) and maybe slightly more intrigued by atmos/earth like landings depending on exactly what that would mean.

I’m far more interested in a story or purpose ... for me, the Thargoids should have been introduced via a Story Based set of missions whereby you discover evidence, fight some early ‘goids, are given access to upgraded weaponary and culminates in unlocking a mix of single-player/match made (Normal) and multi-player/non-matchmade (Hard) repeatable scenarios (CZs, specialist jump points, etc) for fighting large numbers of them.

Instead we got ”spend hours collecting random stuff you read about on the internet in order to be able to then start looking for aliens which apparently threaten humanities very existence but none of the powers seems to care enough to actually have a plan and actively recruit pilots for fighting them”

Now, that ship has sailed but a switcheroo where the Guardians return as the enemy? Well that would be an opportunity for a Story Led introduction to both Thargoid and Guardian combat.
 

Novo Mundus

Novo Mundus
tolm said:
Yup ... that was entirely the point: big twist, Guardians turn out to be bad guys and we have to steal stuff from the Thargoids (who will obviously defend said stuff) to fight ‘em ... except, Story Led with proper Multi-Player missions (Raids) as clarified in my later post.
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Ah, I see.

Always up for hand crafted missions, yep.
 

Golgot

Golgot
SAB380 said:
Frontier’s silence can really work against them at times.
They know peoples 2 biggest wants are Earth like planets and spacelegs. If it ends up being 1 or both then people will be satisfied.

If it’s not those things they should manage expectations well in advance.
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Pretty safe bet it's one of the roadmapped expansions...

(Hell that stuff is written into the old LEP sales page...)

Novo Mundus said:
But... they have nothing to announce right now...
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I've been wondering. Given that they're treating this DLC as closer to a 'single big release' they might do a much more prolonged hype run + beta than Horizons. Something a touch closer to the launch hype, but minus alphas etc. (Which lord knows we could do with, in lieu of meaty tideover like Carriers etc).

That'd sit nice with an Expo tease maybe. But could totally see them hanging tight til like Q2 2020 otherwise :/
 
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