There is no way at present of earning any of the regional permits. I think this has been confirmed by FD at some point but I think it was a Q&A or AMA and I don't have time right now to track it down.

Prior to 2.1, the permit locks around the Barnard's Loop region, including the Cone Sector, did not exist and there are people, including me, who have a few tags around those areas. If you have been to a system before you can view it, even if it has been subsequently locked away. FD have said that it was a bug that those regions were not permit locked prior to 2.1 but because it was only fixed about 18 months after launch many people have been around the area. You cannot get to the systems you previously visited though.

The permit locked regions around Barnard's Loop are structured similar to spheres where systems are locked with spheres where the permit lock is not applied within, such as around the Witch Head Nebula and the Orion Nebula. Jackie Silver has a map of the region (in the Exploration subforum somewhere, best to check the Guides stickied at the top of the forum, it's probably there but I don't have time to search right now.). It is possible with sufficient jump range to go through the middle of Barnard's Loop and out the far side. None of the other permit-locked regions have this complex structure and they all appear to be spheres of different sizes, or collections of interlocking spheres in the case of Bleia and Praei. EDSM should have outlines of the structure from various expeditions (I'm not the only one to have visited these places but I probably visited more on one expedition than had been done previously and laid the groundwork to facilitate future visits).

I'm currently at Star One (unofficial name of the closest system to Andromeda) and will be making my way to The Void as time allows over the coming weeks. I see that 'blue dot/smudge' that has been mentioned by SpaceAce and it is definitely extragalactic but I'm not sure what the object is supposed to be - I'd need to try and narrow down its RA/DEC and check the SDSS catalogue (which has good coverage and a visual interface to see what you're looking at) or something similar.

Unsure but there was confirmation of a star system which was unavailable to access and was around 20,000 lyears away from the closest star system called ‘ Source: https://imgur.com/UbEOD2D’
 
I agree
I also found this about the Thargoids and the project dynasty (don’t worry it’s cannon)
"You don't know what I've seen. I've sailed beyond the Formidine Rift, seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars. I've stood on lost worlds, sterilised clean by the Thargoids and erased from humanity's maps. I've seen the graves from the Thargoid wars, countless headstones stretching beyond the curvature of the horizon, little spots of reflected light dottering the abandoned continent ..."
This is pretty much proof Thargoids have a part to play in Raxxla, the dynasty project was to find new life but was actually used to try and find Raxxla. This can’t be a coincidence with the overlays and restricted areas but as of now I’m unable to travel cause I need to get my cutter :p

Think you’re getting yourself confused here. Project Dynasty was the mystery behind the Formidine Rift hunt and Salomé’s storyline, as told by Drew Wagar in the books Elite Reclamation and Elite Premonition. The story was that Dynasty was an project by a mysterious organisation called The Club to find Earthlike Worlds in three regions of space for the elite (Federation, Empire and Alliance) of humanity to escape to in the event of the Thargoid invasion, leaving the rest of humanity behind to act as a “meat shield” to distract the goids. The in-game evidence came through the Teorge listening post logs of Salomé’s messages.

The quote you refer to is from one of the books which I believe is not canon for ED. This was discussed in the Formidine Rift threads.

Don’t see how you conclude Raxxla is related to Thargoids from the above. They may, they may not; there seems no evidence either way. Though there is some information that they are more interested in Soonthill than Raxxla,but I can’t remember the source reference. Thargoids aren’t mentioned in either Codex entries for Dark Wheel or Raxxla, which seem to be the only information on Raxxla given out by FD, other than “it is in game and has been since the gamma”. All the relevant evidence is mentioned on the first page of this thread.
 
After finding this in game and then finding the same thing online I may have identified something
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This is a spectrogram of Thargoid origin that is emitted via sound waves from the Thargoid star map device and after decodation produces this. This spectrogram picture shows 2 star systems, Merope and one other unidentifiable system.
This ‘map’ shows us 2 stars on the top with Thargoid looking relics/devices on the bottom with curved waves pointing away And pointing two the star systems.
On the merope system the 2nd planet is selected with a line through it and the Thargoid site is on Merope planet 5 C, coordinates -26.35, -156.40. What’s interesting is the system is missing a planet or has been given one extra by the spectrogram and is still unknown why. Raxxla is described as a moving planet and well this spectrogram which is identified as being of Thargoid origin and ancient shows a planet where the currently isn’t one. Coincidence? Think not.
It is still unknown what this map is for but as we know from Soontil, Thargoids have had a part in the Raxxla mystery. What I find interesting here is that the mesh things look strangely like galactic coordinates to a unidentifiable system. Now here’s where it gets interesting, Merope is at the edge of one of the irregular hexagons thingys I pointed out in a previous post and the 4 lines obtruding from the mesh thing when placed over the Raxxla flag touch 4 different points.
Now let’s say you rotate this 90 degrees clockwise. The merope star system on the right is now on the bottom, where it actually is on the galaxy map and I suspect Its at the right area for the Raxxla flag. The second shown star system is all the way past the centre of the Milky Way and is in a permit controlled area but it’s self isn’t permit controlled. The 8 lines coming from the mesh like things cross over at certain areas. The same areas where my previously discussed line crossovers where on the Raxxla flag which gave a possibly more precise areas to search at. This could be an indication to where Raxxla could be.
It is also know these Thargoid devices shown are needed to active the star map on the Thargoid sites and it shows these need to be transported to different locations in the galaxy

(If you haven’t seen my previous posts I suggest you do other wise this won’t make sense)
 
Think you’re getting yourself confused here. Project Dynasty was the mystery behind the Formidine Rift hunt and Salomé’s storyline, as told by Drew Wagar in the books Elite Reclamation and Elite Premonition. The story was that Dynasty was an project by a mysterious organisation called The Club to find Earthlike Worlds in three regions of space for the elite (Federation, Empire and Alliance) of humanity to escape to in the event of the Thargoid invasion, leaving the rest of humanity behind to act as a “meat shield” to distract the goids. The in-game evidence came through the Teorge listening post logs of Salomé’s messages.

The quote you refer to is from one of the books which I believe is not canon for ED. This was discussed in the Formidine Rift threads.

Don’t see how you conclude Raxxla is related to Thargoids from the above. They may, they may not; there seems no evidence either way. Though there is some information that they are more interested in Soonthill than Raxxla,but I can’t remember the source reference. Thargoids aren’t mentioned in either Codex entries for Dark Wheel or Raxxla, which seem to be the only information on Raxxla given out by FD, other than “it is in game and has been since the gamma”. All the relevant evidence is mentioned on the first page of this thread.

Project dynasty was happening in 3 nebulae locations, the same three out of 6 which if you’ve read my earlier posts are where crossovers from the Thargoid map and is where Raxxla flag cross over lines (drawn from each point) meet. Let’s not forget Salomé relayed a message TO the children of Raxxla suggesting that these locations be HEAVILY investigated. Why the children of Raxxla? Why not a different faction?
The ‘club’ also commissioned these expeditions and we know they are responsible for a long chain of events that myths of Raxxla have been woven into.
 
After finding this in game and then finding the same thing online I may have identified something
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This is a spectrogram of Thargoid origin that is emitted via sound waves from the Thargoid star map device and after decodation produces this. This spectrogram picture shows 2 star systems, Merope and one other unidentifiable system.
This ‘map’ shows us 2 stars on the top with Thargoid looking relics/devices on the bottom with curved waves pointing away And pointing two the star systems.
On the merope system the 2nd planet is selected with a line through it and the Thargoid site is on Merope planet 5 C, coordinates -26.35, -156.40. What’s interesting is the system is missing a planet or has been given one extra by the spectrogram and is still unknown why. Raxxla is described as a moving planet and well this spectrogram which is identified as being of Thargoid origin and ancient shows a planet where the currently isn’t one. Coincidence? Think not.
It is still unknown what this map is for but as we know from Soontil, Thargoids have had a part in the Raxxla mystery. What I find interesting here is that the mesh things look strangely like galactic coordinates to a unidentifiable system. Now here’s where it gets interesting, Merope is at the edge of one of the irregular hexagons thingys I pointed out in a previous post and the 4 lines obtruding from the mesh thing when placed over the Raxxla flag touch 4 different points.
Now let’s say you rotate this 90 degrees clockwise. The merope star system on the right is now on the bottom, where it actually is on the galaxy map and I suspect Its at the right area for the Raxxla flag. The second shown star system is all the way past the centre of the Milky Way and is in a permit controlled area but it’s self isn’t permit controlled. The 8 lines coming from the mesh like things cross over at certain areas. The same areas where my previously discussed line crossovers where on the Raxxla flag which gave a possibly more precise areas to search at. This could be an indication to where Raxxla could be.
It is also know these Thargoid devices shown are needed to active the star map on the Thargoid sites and it shows these need to be transported to different locations in the galaxy

(If you haven’t seen my previous posts I suggest you do other wise this won’t make sense)
Think you've got the wrong end of the stick with some stuff here. I'll tackle it.

On the left in the image is Merope. On the right is Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3 (though it's Permit Locked so it can't be 100% confirmed, but it's pretty certain).

The line on the planets denotes a ring.

All the bodies in Merope are there in the diagram, there's not one missing. Compare it if needs be: https://www.edsm.net/en_GB/system/bodies/id/25355/name/Merope

What this is for is known. It symbolises how to use the Thargoid Device at one site, along with the Probe, Sensor and Link to determine the location of other sites.

Not really sure what you're referring to when you say we know from Soontill that Thargoids have a part in the Raxxla mystery. There's no connection. (Unless counting the rumour I mentioned that Soontil was to the Thargoids what Raxxla is to us.)
 
Think you've got the wrong end of the stick with some stuff here. I'll tackle it.

On the left in the image is Merope. On the right is Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3 (though it's Permit Locked so it can't be 100% confirmed, but it's pretty certain).

The line on the planets denotes a ring.

All the bodies in Merope are there in the diagram, there's not one missing. Compare it if needs be: https://www.edsm.net/en_GB/system/bodies/id/25355/name/Merope

What this is for is known. It symbolises how to use the Thargoid Device at one site, along with the Probe, Sensor and Link to determine the location of other sites.


Not really sure what you're referring to when you say we know from Soontill that Thargoids have a part in the Raxxla mystery. There's no connection. (Unless counting the rumour I mentioned that Soontil was to the Thargoids what Raxxla is to us.)
Ah I thought it was the other way around, thought merope was on the right hand side and yes the rumours because after all isn’t everything here just rumours?
And I don’t believe the purpose is known. This came from the cannon research group ‘It is still highly debated and theorized of it’s true meaning, but as like the TP’s spectrogram, it is still unknown on what its true meaning may be’
 
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I agree
I also found this about the Thargoids and the project dynasty (don’t worry it’s cannon)
"You don't know what I've seen. I've sailed beyond the Formidine Rift, seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars. I've stood on lost worlds, sterilised clean by the Thargoids and erased from humanity's maps. I've seen the graves from the Thargoid wars, countless headstones stretching beyond the curvature of the horizon, little spots of reflected light dottering the abandoned continent ..."
This is pretty much proof Thargoids have a part to play in Raxxla, the dynasty project was to find new life but was actually used to try and find Raxxla. This can’t be a coincidence with the overlays and restricted areas but as of now I’m unable to travel cause I need to get my cutter :p
Before this turns into the next "A CMDR has already flown into the system and honked it, but didn't scan Raxxla. FDev have confirmed" rumour, I just want to point out, as others have already, that this is grossly conflating two completely separate story lines. Project Dynasty was a three pronged project that was sent to seek out viable Earth like worlds in the case that humanity had to flee due to Thargoid destruction/invasion of human inhabited space. Three sites were picked, one in the Formidine Rift, one in Hawking's Gap, and the other in the Conflux. This had nothing to do with the Raxxla. And the quote you mentioned is not in-game and, for whatever it's worth, is not considered cannon for the the game, despite what you assert.
 
Ah I thought it was the other way around, thought merope was on the right hand side and yes the rumours because after all isn’t everything here just rumours?
And I don’t believe the purpose is known. This came from the cannon research group ‘It is still highly debated and theorized of it’s true meaning, but as like the TP’s spectrogram, it is still unknown on what its true meaning may be’
Forgive me for being somewhat gauche, but, I get the impression that you're new here. A lot of the information that you've googled up for yourself was actually discovered, uncovered, and figured out by the very people in this thread that you've questioned. Listen to Thatch. He's knows what he's on about.
 
Before this turns into the next "A CMDR has already flown into the system and honked it, but didn't scan Raxxla. FDev have confirmed" rumour, I just want to point out, as others have already, that this is grossly conflating two completely separate story lines. Project Dynasty was a three pronged project that was sent to seek out viable Earth like worlds in the case that humanity had to flee due to Thargoid destruction/invasion of human inhabited space. Three sites were picked, one in the Formidine Rift, one in Hawking's Gap, and the other in the Conflux. This had nothing to do with the Raxxla. And the quote you mentioned is not in-game and, for whatever it's worth, is not considered cannon for the the game, despite what you assert.
No i agree they didn’t have anything to do with them at first but the Arthur of that book is officially licensed by frontier a wrote that in ‘and here’s the wheel’ it may not be confirmed cannon as what I had originally thought but it’s still viable. The workers on these sites where killed with a poison and this log can be found when scanning one of the sites
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And I don’t think THAT is a coincidence
 
After finding this in game and then finding the same thing online I may have identified something
View attachment 133007
This is a spectrogram of Thargoid origin that is emitted via sound waves from the Thargoid star map device and after decodation produces this. This spectrogram picture shows 2 star systems, Merope and one other unidentifiable system.
This ‘map’ shows us 2 stars on the top with Thargoid looking relics/devices on the bottom with curved waves pointing away And pointing two the star systems.
On the merope system the 2nd planet is selected with a line through it and the Thargoid site is on Merope planet 5 C, coordinates -26.35, -156.40. What’s interesting is the system is missing a planet or has been given one extra by the spectrogram and is still unknown why. Raxxla is described as a moving planet and well this spectrogram which is identified as being of Thargoid origin and ancient shows a planet where the currently isn’t one. Coincidence? Think not.
It is still unknown what this map is for but as we know from Soontil, Thargoids have had a part in the Raxxla mystery. What I find interesting here is that the mesh things look strangely like galactic coordinates to a unidentifiable system. Now here’s where it gets interesting, Merope is at the edge of one of the irregular hexagons thingys I pointed out in a previous post and the 4 lines obtruding from the mesh thing when placed over the Raxxla flag touch 4 different points.
Now let’s say you rotate this 90 degrees clockwise. The merope star system on the right is now on the bottom, where it actually is on the galaxy map and I suspect Its at the right area for the Raxxla flag. The second shown star system is all the way past the centre of the Milky Way and is in a permit controlled area but it’s self isn’t permit controlled. The 8 lines coming from the mesh like things cross over at certain areas. The same areas where my previously discussed line crossovers where on the Raxxla flag which gave a possibly more precise areas to search at. This could be an indication to where Raxxla could be.
It is also know these Thargoid devices shown are needed to active the star map on the Thargoid sites and it shows these need to be transported to different locations in the galaxy

(If you haven’t seen my previous posts I suggest you do other wise this won’t make sense)

Thatchinho has covered most of this. I just want to point out that Raxxla has never been described as a moving planet. There are infarct very few descriptions of Raxxla. We have The Dark Wheel(the book), which is considered pseudo lore. It's not true lore but accepted as a legend in the game.
Raxxla is mentioned by name in a few other official books, but with no info. Mostly by a character that does not believe it exists.
Other than this, there is only the Codex and some vague hints in the mission descriptions on page 1.

Much of the false info comes from Oolite stuff. That is fan made and has absolutely no value.

The function of the Thargoid map is fully understood and decoded. Nothing points any deeper meaning than defining a position in space. The significance of Merope and Merope 5C is still unknown though.
 
Forgive me for being somewhat gauche, but, I get the impression that you're new here. A lot of the information that you've googled up for yourself was actually discovered, uncovered, and figured out by the very people in this thread that you've questioned. Listen to Thatch. He's knows what he's on about.

Yes after looking online I have realised most of the stuff I found out other people have as well. But no all of it
 
Well as I’ve said most of the areas where I found that the Thargoid star map thing overlapped is permit restricted so i bet its impossible to actually get to Raxxla in this moment in time. I’ve just been posting about how the Thargoid structures and maps seem to overlap with the Raxxla one and was theorising about how the Thargoids could be the missing piece. After all in the original elite game where Thargoids where first introduced that was when Raxxla was too introduced. Most of what I’ve started could have already been thought of but I don’t think anyone’s really compared Raxxla and Thargoids together. The fact that there star map is one of the andromeda galaxy is enough to suggest they aren’t from the Milky Way and Raxxla is described as being a gateway. I’m simply posturing ideas that could help in some sort of discoveries with the discoveries I have made to potentially speed up the location of Raxxla
Frontier are also known for using past stories in the past frontier games in this new one so using any information on Raxxla is in my opinion relevant. We just simply don’t have enough evidence to locate Raxxla as of the moment so anything that could be used to formulate an idea is helpful so I am simply stating things I have found so we create a ‘platform’ to stand on
We know Raxxla exists, as far as I’m aware frontier has stated that is is out there and the dev team know where it is. They have also stated to my knowledge that no in game CLUES will be given
Also the fact you assume I’m ‘new’ and for this reason unknowingly ‘stupid’ as you are suggesting and don’t know what I’m on about is insulting to say the least, I’m simply working with what I have found and working on the ideas and developments of others the formulate areas on the galmap that could be interesting to search at and I’d like to remind you that Raxxla theory’s are basically impossible to disprove as so little is known about it, myths aren't truths and the dark wheel try’s to steer people away from Raxxla. However myths is all we have to work from so 🤔🤔
 
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No i agree they didn’t have anything to do with them at first but the Arthur of that book is officially licensed by frontier a wrote that in ‘and here’s the wheel’ it may not be confirmed cannon as what I had originally thought but it’s still viable. The workers on these sites where killed with a poison and this log can be found when scanning one of the sites
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And I don’t think THAT is a coincidence
That log isn't from one of the "sites." It's from the megaship Zurara, found in the Formidine Rift....which Wagar has said, repeatedly, has nothing to do with Raxxla. If anything, the drug "Hexedit" is probably a little easter egg.
 
That log isn't from one of the "sites." It's from the megaship Zurara, found in the Formidine Rift....which Wagar has said, repeatedly, has nothing to do with Raxxla. If anything, the drug "Hexedit" is probably a little easter egg.
Exactly? It’s from the rift? Where project dynasty was launched? Which is a mega ship ‘site’ and this is what lead me to believe project dynasty and Raxxla are interwoven somehow and Wagar isn’t maintaining his sites anymore and is also a known collaborator in the lore behind the Thargoids and Raxxla.
 
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Exactly? It’s from the rift? Where project dynasty was launched? Which is a mega ship ‘site’ and this is what lead me to believe project dynasty and Raxxla are interwoven somehow
I'm not sure how to make this any more plain. The author who created the Formidine Rift and it's mysteries has said, many times, that it has nothing to do with Raxxla. I'll take his word for it.

Have you actually been to the Zurara in some other form than through your web browser? Get out there and explore, you get a feel for it that your search history just can't compensate for.
 
I'm not sure how to make this any more plain. The author who created the Formidine Rift and it's mysteries has said, many times, that it has nothing to do with Raxxla. I'll take his word for it.

Have you actually been to the Zurara in some other form than through your web browser? Get out there and explore, you get a feel for it that your search history just can't compensate for.
Yes in-fact I have but, not for Raxxla purposes. And I have to search things up as my iPad doesn’t allow me to upload pictures taken with the camera so I have to use a online file transfer to show visual evidence. Trust me I’d love to post more in depth things about what I have found but alas apple like to shove there collaboration attempts with the rest of technology up there consumers a-holes
 
Oh and acting like your this big deal who knows what they are looking for when it comes to Raxxla is humours considering there is no solid leads
 
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