The Quest To Find Raxxla

[AOpsyche]

It's not the only confirmation. DB has said it exist in other interviews. MB went as far as saying it's in the Milky Way. Raxxla's existence in the game has been confirmed several times. The codex quote "Raxxla is a definite place and that it holds a mystical secret." probably describes it best.

We have never had confirmation that Raxxla is:

• Not permit locked.
• Scannable
• Reachable with current equipment
• Recognizable when found

That would have been nice to know.

As far as we know, DB has only had one other "interview" where we could say he confirms Raxxla's existence, but there's pages of argument in this thread alone debating if he was actually answering the question or not. (I personally think he was, but even then, all he said was "of course (it exists)".

MB has definitely said it is in the milky way and it's a journey everyone must make for themselves. This could mean that Raxxla is in his closet at home.

As for the codex, the context around your quote makes your presentation as hard evidence a bit disingenuous.

I'm not denying that Raxxla exists, just that we ought not assume it is a physical thing in game to discover. We have to be pragmatic and accurate with the info we're given, which has been purposefully phrased to be ambiguous. I'm only supplying proof that our least ambiguous confirmation isn't as solid as we thought.

 

[[PS4] Filthymick420]

"...we know why people haven't been able to find it ."
In 2014 ?
Must be very close/inside the Bubble/SD..

It could be in a file for future insertion to the game when they're ready for us to find it. That's how they know where it is. Oh, it's somewhere in the milky way? Yea, well so are all of us. Vague statements with more vague meaning. Universal shlong move imo

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

"...we know why people haven't been able to find it ."
In 2014 ?
Must be very close/inside the Bubble/SD..

I thought the game didn't release until mid/late 2014? Was this a sensible thing for DB to say at the time? So what was the max jump range achievable in 2014? I think end of 2015 when I started playing it was around 24ly in an AspX from what I remember when I started FRifting; I do remember it took me a lot of jumps to get out to Zurara. So maybe 35-40ly in an unshielded stripped explorer annie? This estimate needs confirmation from someone with a better memory than me. Unfortunately my first 6 months or so game logs were lost in an update so can’t get back to check.

But how far is feasible for a dedicated band of explorers and adventurers like TDW, or the original Ryder expedition? Since an expedition was required in the original novella I don’t think it’s all that close to the bubble. This lore would presumably have influenced DB’s thought processes on this. I still suspect out as far as Heart Neb region is feasible for DB to place Raxxla (assuming it is findable, but then anyone who doesn’t think so is wasting their time in this thread). I do think it’s likely to be near something notable in-game, like a famous black hole (not Sag A*) or big nebula.

Edit: didn’t some of the early lore say the goids were also looking for Raxxla?

 

[Scytale]

I can't just imagine FD putting Raxxla in/near the Rift and then telling DW to write a story unfolding there but without touching Raxxla...
Or can I ? Oh yes, after all I can. They even could have done all this expressely...

 

[yelboc]

As for the codex, the context around your quote makes your presentation as hard evidence a bit disingenuous.

Well it is the only sentence in the R codex that is stated as a fact, rather than hear-say.

 

[Scytale]

I thought the game didn't release until mid/late 2014? Was this a sensible thing for DB to say at the time?

I bet FD thought that the open beta testers, who mostly were fans of earlier Elite and knew about Raxxla lore, would find it in no time.
Something happened and turned it out in a different way. Then that ".. why it hasn't been found " statement. There was a reason and FD knew it.
Raxxla was bugged. Just like pretty much everything at that time.
Then came the E/F missions and Raxxla became a major feature of the game (no longer an eye wink to the early fans), but too smart players, like The Boss, came too early too close to solving the Quest and spoil all that stuff. E/F missions out !
And now, well, we all know what we are left with..
Imho.

 

[[PS4] Filthymick420]

System DROKIO LS-A B33-0, Outer Orion Spur sector.

This was posted in a PS4 community. I think it has some potential for the former menu screen people were thinking might have housed the dark wheel station.

 

[Han_Zen]

"...we know why people haven't been able to find it ."
In 2014 ?
Must be very close/inside the Bubble/SD..

Unless Raxxla is within a few ly of Eranin, it would be very hard to find in July 2014. The beta bubble was small at that time. SD was way out of reach.

 

[Scytale]

... which reduces quite a lot the area of search.

 

[Han_Zen]

... which reduces quite a lot the area of search.

Start of with Styx. It's the only one with a Greek theme. Then make sure that there are no location in the system that you haven't been within 1000ls of. If you don't find, it's time to do the same in the other few systems.
Brute force super cruising is the way to go. Gamma pill is next. Only a few hundred systems, I think.

 

[Scytale]

Styx ? Oh, yeah, ofc.
We already know that path well. Underworld, Star Eater (BH), Aldebaran, Raxxla.
(Beware! Tattoo - thing ahead ! Click at your own risk !)

Spoiler

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

I can't just imagine FD putting Raxxla in/near the Rift and then telling DW to write a story unfolding there but without touching Raxxla...
Or can I ? Oh yes, after all I can. They even could have done all this expressely...

Indeed- could have been the original obfuscation. Didn’t DB also say something like he thought it would have been found by now?

Can’t remember how far Heart is from bubble at the moment, but was thinking if the goids are also after it then perhaps Barnard’s Loop, Running Man etc; maybe also Cave Neb, NGC 281 ....

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

System DROKIO LS-A B33-0, Outer Orion Spur sector.

This was posted in a PS4 community. I think it has some potential for the former menu screen people were thinking might have housed the dark wheel station.

Not in game to check that system’s stars, but the Horizon menu screen that I hypothesise over ( a harmless hobby at my age!) has an early Orbis wheel type orbiting low over an ice moon with another ice moon close by. The stars are bright blue white, so I’ve been looking in dual O, B A, F systems. The earlier non-Horizons menu had a Coriolis octahedron type in a system with twin yellow stars. Think FD probably updated it to make it fit the Dark Wheel station narrative.

 

[Han_Zen]

Styx ? Oh, yeah, ofc.
We already know that path well. Underworld, Star Eater (BH), Aldebaran, Raxxla.
(Beware! Tattoo - thing ahead ! Click at your own risk !)

Spoiler

If you want to go from the river to the tree, you can just go up a few ly to Meliae. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meliae

It even has a gas giant, with eight moons.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Start of with Styx. It's the only one with a Greek theme. Then make sure that there are no location in the system that you haven't been within 1000ls of. If you don't find, it's time to do the same in the other few systems.
Brute force super cruising is the way to go. Gamma pill is next. Only a few hundred systems, I think.

Styx would be quite close to MB’s “that’s a journey we all must make”. The journey through life to death....

But the lore says Raxxla was found much earlier, so not so sure it has to be all that close to the bubble.

Edit: sigh. Jorki’s docked in Rohini & Tyko’s mooching around near Altera’s Eye. Do I really want a second clone to investigte the bubble? With all that roads to riches & ship engineering effort
Meh!

Does Styx (or any of the other bubble systems) fit the Codex toast? Omphalos? Astrophel & Stella? As well as “journey we all must make” etc?

I think the E/F missions were “obfuscation on the outer rim”- “SD thrumpberry juice deliveries” and FD took them out because of all the salt farmed after the Salomé event; they didn’t want that level of adverse publicity over Raxxla.

 

[Scytale]

If you want to go from the river to the tree, you can just go up a few ly to Meliae. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meliae

Interesting, but I am pretty sure that Norse tree represents Yggdrasil (along half a dozen of Norse myth characters..). It's that bat-winged "Stars Eater" who I can't define.. .

 

[Han_Zen]

Styx would be quite close to MB’s “that’s a journey we all must make”. The journey through life to death....

But the lore says Raxxla was found much earlier, so not so sure it has to be all that close to the bubble.

I agree. The colonization of Achenar in about the same period as the first mention of Raxxla tells us that they could move, even back in 2300.

If you can get a full colony to Achenar, an exploration expedition should be able to do a few thousand ly.

 

[Han_Zen]

It's that bat-winged "Stars Eater" who I can't define.. .

Female demon wearing a skirt and eating stars. Could be a Tzitzimitl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzitzimitl

 

[Scytale]

Any Tzitzimitl black hole in ED ?

 

[Thatchinho]

I agree. The colonization of Achenar in about the same period as the first mention of Raxxla tells us that they could move, even back in 2300.

If you can get a full colony to Achenar, an exploration expedition should be able to do a few thousand ly.

Yep. And that's just the manned stuff. We also need to take into account all the unmanned stuff, which would have constituted the majority of exploration in early days.